Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 308192)

midge already put a link to the WHOLE article, not just sections. Plus, parts of this article are grossly inaccurate (it was 4 years of investigation, not 18 months, for a start). Morse's political ties and donations in Florida are totally irrelevant.

Look, most of us agree what was done was heinous and, if found guilty, Morse, Rainey, et al. deserve whatever punishment they get (plus some). So, your point is?

Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 308203)

According to Montana papers, the investigation began 4 years ago; an officer went undercover about 2 years ago. So, no, the article is wrong (no big surprise -- it is a Ritchie piece and integrity and honesty is not her forte). My point was this article was already posted, so why the new post on it? I knew that how? This article doesn't even come close to explaining how the investigation was done. There's no mention that the officer also was guilty of hunting out of season with the Morse/Rainey group. There's no explanation as to why it took so long to bring charges. There is a tremendous amount of "he said" and a lot of emphasis on the Morses' political viewpoints. It is a typical smear of the Morse family, nothing more. Copying just part of it is like copying a cake recipe but forgetting to mention the amount needed of each ingredient and then adding garlic because YOU like garlic.

And do remember I am not a Morse fan. I admire TV and their ability to have it built, including the business acumen required to accomplish this thing of wonder. I do not admire how they run the day-to-day operations and their need to have a finger in every pie in TV. I flat out resent their unwillingness to let other viewpoints into TV -- if it ain't Republican, it has to be behind closed doors and told about after the fact; if it's Republican, it's the Town Squares and non-stop stories in the Sun.

But this smearing of Mark Morse (and trying to taint all of the Morses with these charges -- does anyone even know if Gary Morse hunts?), is getting tiresome. Let's wait until more FACTS (not smears nor praises) are truly known and I'd be seriously hesitant in using the Sentinel as any basis of fact for any Morse/TV issue.

Originally Posted by The Shadow (Post 308220)

Ignore the content attack the messenger.

Originally Posted by Uptown Girl (Post 308226)

Or, we could ignore the messenger.....

Originally Posted by The Shadow (Post 308199)

It must be my accent, my one and only point was made in my one and only line I wrote.
This answers how the case was make.

I found it interesting.

I think the law breaking was over 4 years the investigation was 18 months. Does that sound right?

Originally Posted by tony (Post 355643)

I have removed some inappropriate posts from this thread.

Click here for the Montana news story.

Originally Posted by Advogado (Post 356816)

We are up north for the summer; so our Daily Sun is on vacation hold. What did the Daily Sun have to say about the conviction?

Originally Posted by nitakk (Post 356833)

They were going to cover it in depth, as usual; however, Betty Sue's 3rd cousin twice removed who knew someone who knew someone that once met an astronaut bumped it!

Originally Posted by nitakk (Post 356833)

They were going to cover it in depth, as usual; however, Betty Sue's 3rd cousin twice removed who knew someone who knew someone that once met an astronaut bumped it!

Originally Posted by cabo35 (Post 356819)

Reading this thread reminds me of a great line by Claude Rains's Captain Renault in Casablanca. With apologies to the late Mr. Rains and the author of Casablanca, the Villages version might be, "Mr. Morse is being bashed." "Round up the usual suspects."

How sadly predictable.

Originally Posted by Advogado (Post 356991)

To further quote Captain Renault, "I am shocked--shocked-- to find" that the Daily Sun has once again abandoned any pretense of journalistic integrity and has buried a story of interest to Villagers because it reflects unfavorably on the Developer.

Originally Posted by Xavier (Post 357023)

Just an observation: I just went through your posting history, not all of them, but enough. You either have a naturally dark disposition or you can't stand the developer and will do anything in your power to show him in a bad light. You aren't jealous of his success are you? I'm sure you can find something nice to say about him and the absolutely wonderful community which is a result of his efforts. No one is perfect. Perhaps you can tell us what changes you would make to The Villages an even better place. You know, maybe something productive. :wave:

Like I said, just an observation.

Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 357073)

Sorry, don't see how this is bashing Gary Morse and his family. The fact is Morse, et al. were charged with various misdemeanors and felonies in Montana. Some have pled out, some have not. I'm not quite sure it is really news in Florida but it certainly is of interest to Villagers and I do believe that the Sun should cover the story -- not headlines, but at least a blurb somewhere as events progress.

And I'm still trying to figure out why Morse is being charged with bigger crimes (possible fines, jail time) than Rainey. From what I've read, Rainey did far worse than any member of the Morse family.

So, where's the bashing?

Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 357122)

If Joe Blow down the street were arrested for poaching locally, it would be in the paper, with name, etc. in the police blotter at the very least. If Joe were arrested in southern Florida or another state, the odds are we wouldn't hear a thing. However, Mark Morse is not Joe Blow. Poaching, whether on his own land or the land of others, is illegal. Leaving carcasses to rot is not only illegal, it is immoral in my mind. The whole thing reeks and does say something about the ethics and morals of the man. That is something we, as Villagers and potential Villagers, have a right to know about. Not to condemn him but simply to help us decide if we want to risk our investment because the man running our development seems to be lacking morally. To me, it goes hand in hand with the IRS issues and the settlement -- it shows a need to be careful when dealing with the man and to take his promises with a very large grain of salt.

If the Sun wants to be considered even remotely as a newspaper and not just a TV PR thing, it needs to report all of the news that pertains to TV, the Villagers and, yes, the developer, not just the pretty stories. Doesn't need to be headlines, doesn't even need to be in the first section, but does need to be reported.