Middleton: 12,500 New Homes- 25,000 Children & Teens?
 

Sorry if this has been covered. I just saw a video showing the enormous schools being built- then the narrator said 12,500 family homes will be built. This raised some questions for me:

1) How many people are employed by TV, and can all afford a home- requiring 12,500 homes?

2) 12,500 homes have the potential to house +- 25,000 children and teens. Will our cart and walking paths be shared by skateboarders and groups of congregating teens?

3) Will our Family Pools be inundated with 12,500 families and children?

4) When we're dancing in the squares will we have teens with green hair and pierced faces mocking us?

(Yes. I intentionally added the stereotypes to the last question)

Should I assume policies will be in place to keep our retirement community a mostly senior environment?

My understanding is that Middleton will include family housing and age restricted housing. Those that don't want to be around kids, just won't purchase a house there. It looks awesome.

There are already family villages occupied by employees, and business owners who work here. There already are schools to accommodate the kids who already live in those family villages. Since they don't pay amenity fees, they are not entitled to Villages amenities. They are not permitted into the "Family Pools" that are part of the Villages amenities, because those are for Villages residents and their guests, not for locals who aren't Villagers. The family neighborhoods, while built BY the Villages, and attached to the Villages, are not officially Villages neighborhoods.

The town squares, on the other hand, are open to the public. They are not amenities, we don't pay a fee to use them. They're paid for in part by the business owners, and in part by the tourism tax. There are also some Villagers who have green hair and piercings on their faces.

They "shouldn't" be using the MMPs at all but there's really no way to stop them if their neighborhood has golf-cart access to the same stores that Villagers have access to. Skateboarding is not permitted on the MMPs or walking paths at all, so that shouldn't be a problem and if it becomes one, you call the police. They're trespassing and there are laws to handle that.

Wow, how do you really feel about others? The current family housing areas are self contained and not connected for golf cart use etc. Of course everyone is already welcome to the town squares to dance etc.

We could build moats and stock alligators and parrona (sp) in them. That will keep them out of our playground.

As this place grows will need more and more people working here and taking care of us old folks.

And if anyone has any questions I am being facetious.

You should reconsider your signature line.

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One of the things Covid took away was the homecoming and prom nights at Sumter Landing. Seeing all the young folks dressed up on their way to a big event taking pictures in front of the lake just made me smile. I suspect the younger families at the new square down south will be just as nice.

Nope. You assume because I, and thousands of others moved here to be in and over 55 community, and am eager to keep it that way that I'm motivated by hate. I'm motivated by wanting to live in an over 55 community and keep it that way. It is one of the main reasons I, and thousands of others bought here.

My questions were- questions. Questions based on what I see teenagers doing in my hometown in Mass. I assume these behaviors are happening in countless other communities around the country. Question my signature is you wish, but I believe part of "Life in the Bubble" will be much less desirable if when we look around it looks like the home towns we came here to escape.

BTW: My signature is aimed at people in this forum who call other users Trolls, and announce that questions are "useless" and accuse other members of lacking intelligence. Page one of The Forum tells us people who do that will be banned but it is clear it is tolerated every day.

Where did the 12,500 family units come from? That's the size of CDD15 (55+ communities), the Middleton A CDD is only about 3000 family homes.

Let's see if the OP corrects their miscomprehension of your video...

I said 3000 homes for families.

https://youtu.be/4O4v8KybWNQ?t=1233

and 12,300 for the age restricted CDD15

https://youtu.be/4O4v8KybWNQ?t=1303

I was just about to post the same thing. Your video plainly stated 12,500 AGE RESTRICTED homes...

Age restricted is on the east side and family community on the west side of Middleton.

Yup. I watched your video this morning and heard the 12,300. I just re-watched it and now I see I misunderstood. Thanks for the correction. Before I'm called a moron- I'll admit that I am.

I hate to tell you this but they are already mocking us on tiktok and other social media platforms like that with videos of people dancing in the square and loofahs on cars

Jealousy and envy take many forms, I've come too far and lived too long to care what a bunch of brainless uninformed twits think.

People have been mocking the Villages pretty much ever since there was social media. And people have been defensive about it for just as long. And people have been intelligent enough to dismiss - or at least suspect - random anonymous complaints on the internet and find out for themselves.

And the crazy thing is - there are even people who have been in EACH category of the above, at some point in their lives - people who mock the Villages for some things, AND question the validity of other things, AND defended blindly for other things.

Young people mock the old because the old are mindless and vapid (aka, old fashion). It has always been this way but now the young have the internet :)

And old people mock the young because the young are spoiled brats who won't ever amount to anything (aka failures-in-the-making). It has always been this way, but grandparents refuse to accept the fact that they failed to teach their own kids how to be parents. And they'll refuse to accept it even if they see a video of the proof, on the internet.

You make it embarrassing for me as I come from Mass as well. I don’t want others to know that everyone from Mass is full of hatred. You are proving the point that your signature needs to change as you are lacking in intelligence in your comments. From your beliefs you are definitely someone I do not want to know.

As for your 55+ community, it is actually 80% of a 55+ community and they only real thing in writing is it is a 19+ year old community as anyone 19 or older can live here. Best if you had checked on things before moving here.

From time to time there are posts, like that one about all the terrible things that "might" happen as a result of a new family area, that make me wonder: Do people KNOW there ARE very exclusive retirement areas, with ACTUAL "gates" with security, no one can enter without the security calling first. Over the years I've noticed a number of people get the idea The Villages is that kind of exclusive area ! ? If that is what they are seeking, why not buy into one of them, there are many, many, many to choose from in Florida.

Wouldn’t call yourself names, you viewed a video, heard the number 12,300, you stopped listening, and your brain took you to the fear factor of “family’s and children.”
If you spent anytime in Brownwood, then you know younger people come to enjoy the music, and the square, it’s open to the public. If that makes you uncomfortable, than you have a choice not to meander down to Middleton when it’s completed.

I myself hope there is an open house when the schools in Middleton are finished. I am in great wonder of how lucky those who make our life better ( you know those who build our houses, sell you your home, keep our lawns, make and serve our food) because without the families who choose to work here, you would not have a retirement community.

How lucky the families will be to attend the new state of the art schools, that they can access in the neighborhood in the old fashion walk to school area. Parents will no longer having to drive them for miles, and wait 1/2 hour in line to drop/pickup, off a busy 4 lane road.

Have you ever met any of the charter school students? I have, at fundraising and school events, and am happy to say they have been well mannered, and truly happy to be there. Yes some may not live up to your expectations, but maybe you wouldn’t be their favorite either.

Watching the new video, and things to come that will enhance our retirement years, is so exciting for us. But we have been coming to TV since 07 and we’re always in awe every year we came back to TV.

We are building in Richmond, so Middleton will still be a hike by cart, but we will chose to go to Middleton and Eastport. OP you have the options of the farther you travel north the less you will encounter your less than desirable description of young people. Just a note that new hospital UF is building will bring Physicians, medical staff, and yes, their families. Our Granddaughter already has made up her mind this is where she wants to practice. Why, because she thinks you gain experience by treating elderly with kindness and most of all respect. Even if didn’t like the color of her hair, or her earrings, she wouldn’t hold it against you.

I can’t even read this pessimistic negative “the sky is falling” post from you this morning.. we live in America the last time I checked.. the land of the free.. pretty sure you were a teen/child once.. how does everyone here forget that if the villages didn’t grow,we ourselves would not be here.. were the villages just suppose to halt once we moved in?., and being made fun of?.. where does that even come from?.. just chill!!! OMG!!..

Excessive building & expansion
 

As this place grows it will become like NYC- overcrowded, traffic issues, lack of services, no room for road or infrastructure expansion, higher taxes, higher crime, lack of peace and quiet. Oh wait the non stop building has already created this problem! Before greed took over this was a great senior retirement community.

It’s tolerated because of this thing we have called free speech…let’s preserve it. Along with the right of one to live where they wish. Did you know that not everyone who buys here is 55+. Go check it out.

You’re welcome to move. I would suggest you do if you’re so unhappy.

My family had a saying. “Don’t borrow trouble.” The sky is not falling. So relax and enjoy your retirement. Get it that pickle ball in. After all who knows how long any of us have left.

People said the same thing before YOU got here...

And the new people will say the same thing about the newer development...

Yes we thought this was that kind of place when we first visited, and when we saw the old CD that they'd send when you asked them for information. There was nothing specified about gates being only for traffic. Instead, they provided some footage of people having to go through gates, with a nice person in a booth letting them in.

The advertising gave the PERCEPTION of a gated community. So there was no reason to question if it really was or not, when we got here for the first time and saw that yes indeedie - there's the gate for "residents" and there's the one for "visitors." We didn't look at the red button, because we didn't have to. We had an actual person lifting the gate for us.

We probably didn't realize it was /not/ an actual gated community until our third visit. That's when we took the golf cart to an area that had a gate but no booth for someone to stand in and let you through. That was when we noticed the red button.

Oh the irony, before you moved here the locals were griping about all the people moving here, now you have become a local and are doing the same thing.

Well said
 

Well said!

Was told over the weekend by a wife of one of the head guys on the Water Commission that this is to be a multi-age place to attract the doctors, nurses, etc. for the new hospital being built there. They are going to be building so far south that she said Brownwood would then be the CENTER of The Villages!!!! They are building a home in 45 days or less, believe it or not, so you can imagine the quality (not) that is there. This will take until estimated 2030 to 2032. Very disappointing facts to hear.

Yes yes and yes. We will be connected with the new bridge

The multi modal paths are not restricted. Our amenity fees do not give us the sole use of the paths I have seen people unload golf carts from outside the villages to have a Sunday drive. They are open to the public same as the squares. I know of no neighborhoods except possibly Orange blossom that allows children. Middleton will be part of The Villages and will be connected by the new bridge so hold onto your hats

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Why are you convinced that a home put up in 45 days will be of poor quality? they seem to be very good at scheduling so housing are continuously worked on by trades as they are needed.

I suspect, based on a statement by The Developer, that Eastport will be the true center of The Villages upon final build-out.

Looking closely in Vol 17 of the "Continuing The Dream" newspaper insert (available on TV's website under What's New and Continuing The Dream), on Page 2. There is a break-out text box labeled, "How Eastport Was Named." Starting on Line 7, the Developer writes, "Because this area of The Villages is central to the plans for the overall community..."

Maybe I'm reading too much into it, or maybe they slipped in a glimpse of their (current) long term goals for the overall community.

I’m well over 55 and I didn’t move here to get away from children or families. I moved here to get out of NY and I wake up everyday grateful to be able to live in the very beautiful Villages. I see kids in the square all the time. They are well behaved and not rowdy. They make me smile, hell, we were kids once too. Sure there will be an occasional exception, but it takes a Village to support a Village. The young people who work here for us need a place to live. I say welcome.

There are thousands of family homes being built not only in Middleton but up and down 301 from Sumterville to Oxford and beyond, also in Lady Lake and Fruitland Park, Powell Road, Racetrack Road, Warm Springs, they are going up all around The Villages east to west and north to south. That being said, family housing is needed and welcome as far as I'm concerned but I'm really worried about traffic, very little information has been released regarding how all of the vehicles that come with all of the housing will be handled, these homes will bring a lot of cars and trucks into the area and it's not going to be fun getting from one spot to another.