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dewilson58 10-23-2022 11:46 AM

Who has the Right-of-Way????
 
On the West end of Pinellas Pl, for the Palmetto Executive Course, there is a crossing. Between holes one & two and between holes 8 & 9.

So is this a golf cart crossing and the carts must yield

OR

Is this a pedestrian crossing and cars must yield??


or or...............does it depend if the golfer is walking vs. riding.


:gc:

golfing eagles 10-23-2022 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2150063)
On the West end of Pinellas Pl, for the Palmetto Executive Course, there is a crossing. Between holes one & two and between holes 8 & 9.

So is this a golf cart crossing and the carts must yield

OR

Is this a pedestrian crossing and cars must yield??


or or...............does it depend if the golfer is walking vs. riding.


:gc:

Doesn't matter---both golf carts and pedestrians who are not already in the crosswalk are required to yield to cars on the road. Cars must yield to carts and pedestrians already in the crosswalk. Cyclists will just blow through anyway so they're on their own:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

VApeople 10-23-2022 11:53 AM

We always walk that course and we have the sense to yield to the cars and bikes going along Pinellas.

dewilson58 10-23-2022 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2150068)
Doesn't matter.............. Cars must yield to carts and pedestrians already in the crosswalk.

Very scary..................if a cart (or person) enters the crosswalk when the car is ten feet from the crosswalk and is traveling 25 mph.............the car must yield??

So it gets down to: Who gets there first?? Good Luck with that.

Not sure Morgan & Morgan could get you $1mil .

dewilson58 10-23-2022 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2150070)
We always walk that course and we have the sense to yield to the cars and bikes going along Pinellas.

That wasn't you I almost hit this morning????..................O wait, you said "we have the sense". Nevermind.

Some Bozo pushed his cart out into the crosswalk and I was less than 20 feet away, traveling at 25mph.

golfing eagles 10-23-2022 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2150071)
Very scary..................if a cart (or person) enters the crosswalk when the car is ten feet from the crosswalk and is traveling 25 mph.............the car must yield??

So it gets down to: Who gets there first?? Good Luck with that.

Not sure Morgan & Morgan could get you $1mil .

Pedestrians and carts may not enter the crosswalk if any traffic is approaching. There is no ambiguity.

dewilson58 10-23-2022 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2150077)
Pedestrians and carts may not enter the crosswalk if any traffic is approaching. There is no ambiguity.

a significant footnote to your first post...............i almost jumped in front of a car.

:police:

golfing eagles 10-23-2022 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2150081)
a significant footnote to your first post...............i almost jumped in front of a car.

:police:

Please don't do that:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Bogie Shooter 10-23-2022 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2150081)
a significant footnote to your first post...............i almost jumped in front of a car.

:police:

You deserve credit that you are still able to jump.:beer3:

Stu from NYC 10-23-2022 01:01 PM

Dewie Cheatum and How is at your service 24/7.

If the law is on your side we pound the law, if not we pound the table.

Either way we are on your side. Unless of course we get a better offer.

coralway 10-23-2022 01:34 PM

Doesn’t matter. It’s every man, and woman, for themselves

Bilyclub 10-23-2022 02:33 PM

I believe the signs say Golf Cart Crossing so they are not crosswalks. Just as a sidenote since we're in the area, there is a guy in a 4 seater brown Yamaha that thinks it's okay to cross 466A to get to Culvers. I've seen him do it twice so maybe a Deputy leaving the station will show him the error of his ways with the $500 unregistered motor vehicle ticket.

LuvNH 10-23-2022 02:48 PM

[QUOTE=Bilyclub;2150138]I believe the signs say Golf Cart Crossing so they are not crosswalks. Just as a sidenote since we're in the area, there is a guy in a 4 seater brown Yamaha that thinks it's okay to cross 466A to get to Culvers. I've seen him do it twice so maybe a Deputy leaving the station will show him the error of his ways with the $500 unregistered motor vehicle ticket.[/QUOTE

Don't be silly, we do not ticket the Villagers, might upset them! If he does it often enough someone will take him out and no ticket required.

Babubhat 10-23-2022 03:01 PM

Your cart should have a video camera. Send to authorities.

Garywt 10-23-2022 07:15 PM

Not just there but I go by cars need to yield to pedestrians and golf carts need to yield to both.

wisbad1 10-23-2022 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2150063)
On the West end of Pinellas Pl, for the Palmetto Executive Course, there is a crossing. Between holes one & two and between holes 8 & 9.

So is this a golf cart crossing and the carts must yield

OR

Is this a pedestrian crossing and cars must yield??


or or...............does it depend if the golfer is walking vs. riding.


:gc:

Don’t remember seeing a crosswalk, I’m not taking any chances crossing, people drive like there’s no tomorrow.

Rainger99 10-23-2022 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2150138)
I believe the signs say Golf Cart Crossing so they are not crosswalks.

If it says Golf Cart Crossing, can pedestrians use it? If not, where do they cross?

Bilyclub 10-23-2022 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2150216)
If it says Golf Cart Crossing, can pedestrians use it? If not, where do they cross?

It's part of the cart paths on the golf course. Of course walkers playing the course can use it. No reason for pedestrians to cross the street there because there's no sidewalk on the North side of the street, just the golf course, in which non golfers are not allowed..

VApeople 10-23-2022 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wisbad1 (Post 2150215)
I’m not taking any chances crossing, people drive like there’s no tomorrow.

If you play golf at Palmetto but do not like "taking any chances crossing" over Pinellas, I guess that means you play the first hole and go home.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 10-23-2022 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2150071)
Very scary..................if a cart (or person) enters the crosswalk when the car is ten feet from the crosswalk and is traveling 25 mph.............the car must yield??

So it gets down to: Who gets there first?? Good Luck with that.

Not sure Morgan & Morgan could get you $1mil .

The cart should not have entered the crosswalk with a car within 10 feet of it.

golfing eagles 10-24-2022 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garywt (Post 2150210)
Not just there but I go by cars need to yield to pedestrians and golf carts need to yield to both.

Whatever gave you that idea???? It all depends on the situation.

dewilson58 10-24-2022 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2150251)
If you play golf at Palmetto but do not like "taking any chances crossing" over Pinellas, I guess that means you play the first hole and go home.

Good News..............you can play one & nine before going home. :)

WingedFoot78 10-24-2022 05:39 AM

Make it a day......play #1 then #9 and go home.

midiwiz 10-24-2022 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2150071)
Very scary..................if a cart (or person) enters the crosswalk when the car is ten feet from the crosswalk and is traveling 25 mph.............the car must yield??

So it gets down to: Who gets there first?? Good Luck with that.

Not sure Morgan & Morgan could get you $1mil .

not a realistic distance, obviously this involves the same effort as driving - how to time what's coming. if you pull out with a 25 mph car 10 feet away..... morgan & morgan will send you a funeral card that's about all. LOL

golfing eagles 10-24-2022 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by midiwiz (Post 2150288)
not a realistic distance, obviously this involves the same effort as driving - how to time what's coming. if you pull out with a 25 mph car 10 feet away..... morgan & morgan will send you a funeral card that's about all. LOL

With a bill tucked inside :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

donfey 10-24-2022 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2150076)
That wasn't you I almost hit this morning????..................O wait, you said "we have the sense". Nevermind.

Some Bozo pushed his cart out into the crosswalk and I was less than 20 feet away, traveling at 25mph.

Ya can't fix stupid - or arrogant!

Bay Kid 10-24-2022 07:13 AM

I always wait until traffic clears.

renrod 10-24-2022 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2150071)
Very scary..................if a cart (or person) enters the crosswalk when the car is ten feet from the crosswalk and is traveling 25 mph.............the car must yield??

So it gets down to: Who gets there first?? Good Luck with that.

Not sure Morgan & Morgan could get you $1mil .

It's more like, motorized vehicles are bigger than pedestrians, physics rule!

Wondering 10-24-2022 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2150063)
On the West end of Pinellas Pl, for the Palmetto Executive Course, there is a crossing. Between holes one & two and between holes 8 & 9.

So is this a golf cart crossing and the carts must yield

OR

Is this a pedestrian crossing and cars must yield??


or or...............does it depend if the golfer is walking vs. riding.


:gc:

Cars always have the right of way, NOT golf carts!

Angelcancel 10-24-2022 08:17 AM

As a 40+ yrs retired doc , working in trauma hospitals It’s simple, in physical match, car vs pedestrian or golf cart. Car always win.
You can’t sue for $1M if you are dead.

golfing eagles 10-24-2022 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wondering (Post 2150422)
Cars always have the right of way, NOT golf carts!

Wrong, Wrong, WRONG!!!!

No one entity ALWAYS has the right of way, it depends on the situation.

Golf carts are motor vehicles and have the same rules as cars except for speed limits and the type of road they can drive upon.

The most obvious examples are the merge points------like any merge, the vehicle on the road has the right of way over the merging vehicle. NOT because it is a golf cart, but because they are merging. However, the signs before a merge require the car to slow down to 20 mph. That means if the merging cart has a 100-200 foot lead, they can legally merge. The car has no right to speed up to 40 to race ahead.

Jerrysherry 10-24-2022 08:37 AM

Crossing 466A
 
I have seen Golf Carts crossing 466A NOT Legal !!!!

mikeycereal 10-24-2022 09:49 AM

As a pedestrian I yield for all if it's close or even 20 feet away depending on speed. I walk around outside like I can wait when it comes to moving vehicles. No looking at phone, and don't wanna be dead right. Let 'em go. If it gets to where I'm waiting for many in one area, haven't gotten to that point yet, but that's where the traffic light helps.

bark4me 10-24-2022 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2150068)
Doesn't matter---both golf carts and pedestrians who are not already in the crosswalk are required to yield to cars on the road. Cars must yield to carts and pedestrians already in the crosswalk. Cyclists will just blow through anyway so they're on their own:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

You are 100%correct per FSS

golfing eagles 10-24-2022 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeycereal (Post 2150496)
As a pedestrian I yield for all if it's close or even 20 feet away depending on speed. I walk around outside like I can wait when it comes to moving vehicles. No looking at phone, and don't wanna be dead right. Let 'em go. If it gets to where I'm waiting for many in one area, haven't gotten to that point yet, but that's where the traffic light helps.

Hmmm-----even a whole 20 feet away????

A car travelling at 30 mph is going 44 feet/sec, at 20 mph it's 29 ft/sec. For your own safety, please revise your distances.

DaleDivine 10-24-2022 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerrysherry (Post 2150445)
I have seen Golf Carts crossing 466A NOT Legal !!!!

Sure it is.. Street legal carts cross 466A and 466 all the time on Buena Vista and Morse .
:popcorn::popcorn:

DaleDivine 10-24-2022 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2150063)
On the West end of Pinellas Pl, for the Palmetto Executive Course, there is a crossing. Between holes one & two and between holes 8 & 9.

So is this a golf cart crossing and the carts must yield

OR

Is this a pedestrian crossing and cars must yield??


or or...............does it depend if the golfer is walking vs. riding.


:gc:

You could be right DEAD RIGHT...
:bowdown::gc::pepper2:

DaleDivine 10-24-2022 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2150063)
On the West end of Pinellas Pl, for the Palmetto Executive Course, there is a crossing. Between holes one & two and between holes 8 & 9.

So is this a golf cart crossing and the carts must yield

OR

Is this a pedestrian crossing and cars must yield??


or or...............does it depend if the golfer is walking vs. riding.


:gc:

Also , if you going from 8th hole to the 9th, the cart crossing sign really blocks your view of traffic on Pinellas going towards Pinellas Plaza...
:welcome::ho:

Rainger99 10-24-2022 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WingedFoot78 (Post 2150282)
Make it a day......play #1 then #9 and go home.

If I do that, I should break 30!!!

dewilson58 10-24-2022 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wondering (Post 2150422)
Cars always have the right of way, NOT golf carts!

And Morgan & Morgan thanks you.

:ohdear:


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