Gun Sales?
 

Is it permissible to sell rifles and/or pistols and other equipment on TOTV - either on a thread or classified ads

Good question!

As far as I know sales of guns between private parties are not banned in Florida. But it would be wise to check with the publication or online vehicle before posting about buying or selling a gun. Odds are they have their own rules about that.

I’m pretty sure it’s not allowed. I would read the terms of the classified section, but I’ve seen gun ads deleted in the past. The Villages Straight Shooters Club has a classified section. Then there’s always gunbroker.com.

How does one start a thread?
Are the guns you wish to sell from your collection? How would I get a list of what you have? I have a carry in NY, NJ, VA, and FL (with the reciprocity states).

Since messing this up results in a federal felony charge, I suggest a talk with an expert at Shooters World, vs asking the internet.

We can’t even agree on 20 vs 25 MPH in a golf cart

There are several options. Straight Shooters club runs a classified ad section.
They can help you with standard forms. You can sell a gun person to person without involving an FFL so long as the buyer has a valid carry permit. Fair price-
look on TRUE GUN VALUE that too is free. You can also look on GUN BROKER.
Another option is to sell it to shooters world. They do not buy long guns-rifles only pistols. You will not get a top dollar but it is little effort and you get cash (check)and you are done with it.

When I moved down here I sold most of my guns to Nordick Pawn on 301 in Wildwood. They were more than fair and actually gave me more than I asked for on one of my shotguns. My feeling was that it was not worth the hassle to try selling them individually and possibly braking the law. I think I took 9 long guns there and left with close to $3,000.00 in my pocket. I'm sure they were worth more but he has to make money on them so I was more than happy.

Challenger,
Its in the TOTV "rules" that one cannot list firearms or ammo for sale in the classifieds.
I previously looked into this as well.
I've also sold on gunbroker, its massively fee heavy and subject to a lot of scammy buyers or people that wont pay after winning. GB customer support is non-existent.
Other sites include 'armslist' and 'gunsamerica'.
You may be shipping if using any of those three, which then adds some other complexity, as not all carriers are OK with shipping firearms.
Selling locally to/thru an FFL holder often is far less hassle and about the same $ in the end.

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Thanks to all. The item that I want to sell is already on consignment at Nordic, but just checking for possible alternative. After the info provided here, I agree that the best option is to sell to Nordic or another shop in the area.

Go to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives guidance on the transfer of a firearm by private sellers.

Vanguard Gunworks up near Spanish Springs will facilitate firearms transfers between private parties to make it completely legal and documented. They even complete a background check on the buyer for everyone's peace of mind..

You can even have a garage sale and sell them yourself. However, the purchaser does need a current CCW and needs to sign a form which you can get online.

You know I have a lot of guns but I would say no only because the person that buys the gun probably wouldn’t register it & if you sold the gun, that gun would be registered in your name. I know if it were me selling a gun to someone I wouldn’t sell this person a gun until I took this person by the hand & made 100% sure it wasn’t in my name. Selling a gun to maybe an X prisoner or to someone that wants to commit a crime would be terrible! Never heard that you could sell a gun by just advertising it. If this were true that means you could sell a gun in a garage sale. What’s the difference selling a gun just listing it on TOTV or in a garage sale!

But would you honestly register it or not to keep anyone from knowing you have it. Not accusing you but this selling a gun just from advertising it just doesn’t sound right! I would say No gun sales by advertising!

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There is no gun registration in the state of Florida. To sell a gun to a private owner, the buyer must be a Florida resident. I would ask for a drivers license, and a CWL , and make photo copies, plus a bill of sale that you can get online . Or better yet, sell to an FFL.

In NY I had to detail the gun I was going to carry on my CCP application before they would decide if I would get the license. Kind of backwards. Had to buy a gun, which is held at the sporting store. Then put the sn of that gun, the gun I purchased but could not possess, on the application and wait to see if the permit was granted. Mine was and I received the license and picked up my handgun. Wonder what would happen if it was denied (Not uncommon in NY)

Re: golf cart speeds and villagers agreeing on anything.
Realize what is posted here is OPINION. My pseudo-name is daves. If, you are stopped for SPEEDING in your golf cart at best you will get a laugh-BUT daves told me. Like most things there is a LAW. The police used to have, likely still do have a meeting with villagers once a month at the savannah center.

Far as guns, law is endlessly changing. It is often the law for this week in this state.

I am an ex-new yorker. I laugh when people complain on talk of the villages. They have no comprehension to what bad is. When we moved to Florida I was shocked. We filed for a Florida Drivers License, Florida car plates, to vote, tax exemption it took roughly one hour.
NY the line to be told what line to wait on next takes like an hour and a half. A boat on a trailer, you get to go through the lines at least twice.

As far as conceited carry in NY. Interesting, I carried cash and could not get one. I expect it was not in the five boroughs. Your gun being denied? There is a list of what they approve. The issue is the number of bullets it will hold.

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I think I stand corrected about personal gun sales. To much much tho explain. Google it & read it, it opened my eyes.

Amen. Pretty much the same back in Minnesota.

Minnesota is constantly trying to fix things that aren't broken. The Driver's License application and renewal process worked well enough, though VERY slow. So they put a new system in, in place of the one that worked. All it accomplished was to make a relatively slow process a painfully slow process, often to the point of stopping. The system was backlogged by at least three months, if not more. When we got to TV and applied for our Florida licenses at the Tax Collector's office (love that Florida isn't into cute euphemisms), I asked, at the end of the data-entering process, just how long we'd have to wait before we received our licenses. The data collector looked at me kind of oddly; I added that the usual wait in Minnesota was around three months. She laughed and said "you'll have it in your hand when you walk out of here".

Car plates too. THAT was backed up at least as long. Odd, being that the plates were manufactured at the State prison less than an hour way from the license bureau in St. Paul. But that wasn't the only problem. There were stories going around (knew one guy personally who had it happen) to the effect that not having your plate displayed was in violation of the law. One guy took it to court because he got ticketed for not displaying a current plate, claiming (rightfully) that he had abided by the lawful process and requested his replacement plate as required. The judge found against him, his reasoning being (in paraphrase) that a citizen cannot avoid legal penalties just because the government didn't fulfill its obligations in a timely manner.

Florida, in so many respects, is a breath of fresh air.

Private Gun Sales - The Firearm Firm

If you're a Florida resident and a legal gun owner over the age of 21, then you may sell the firearm to another Florida resident over the age of 21 as long as you don't know or have reasonable cause to believe that the buyer is prohibited from gun ownership.

It would behoove a seller to have a Bill of Sale describing what is being sold and a statement that the buyer is not prohibited from owning or possessing a firearm in the state of Florida. You should also obtain a copy of the buyer's Driver's License showing his/her Florida residency. Both the buyer and seller should sign and date the Bill of Sale. It's a good idea to retain this Bill of Sale indefinitely. Give the buyer a copy also.

The buyer does NOT have to possess a Concealed Carry Permit, nor does the buyer have to undergo a NICS background check in a private transaction. There is no waiting period in private transactions.

So, you have to be "conceited" to carry a gun in NY?:popcorn:

Guns are not registered in Florida.

Just wait a bit. All the gun rules are going to disappear soon based on the Supreme Court ruling, Bruen, authored by Thomas. He established a new criteria for gun control regulation that any rule that did not exist at the time of the adoption of the Constitution is unconstitutional. There have already been court decisions saying that anyone can remove the serial numbers from guns as it was not prohibited nor did numbers exist in 1791 and a NY law that prohibited people from bringing guns into airports has been stopped.
A Federal court in Texas has ruled that the Federal government cannot prohibit a person under indictment for a violent felony from buying new guns. This judge admits in his opinion that having to allow a person indicted for felonies the right buy and to keep and bear arms will have societal consequences he adds that he must find that the rule is based on a “general societal problem that has persisted since the 18th century,”

He adds that for the government to continue to enforce its prohibition it must have evidence from 1791;
If there was no historical regulation of gun purchase in 1791 any challenge to such rules will now perforce succeed. Under Justice Thomas's majority opinion which was a 6-3 decision, no gun control regulation which did not exist or very clearly derive from the situation in 1791 is now unconstitutional.