Accident at Buena Vista - 446A
 

I was involved in a terrible accident with a motorcycle today. Please let me know if you witnessed it.
Thank You.
Steve Broos

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I saw only after the fact. Looked nasty. Are you okay?

Yes, thank you.

Ask the cops they seem to have plenty of witnesses

The other Villages' news site has information about that crash with pictures.

Left turning cars are one of the most common causes of accidents between a car and a motorcycle. The auto driver either doesn’t see the motorcyclist or doesn’t gauge the speed correctly and enters into a left turn across the oncoming traffic and hits the motorcyclist. If motorcyclists run their high beams in the daytime oncoming traffic may see them better and may hesitate before crossing in front of them. As a motorcyclist you have to enter every intersection with your hand over the brake and look at every car as a threat and expect some of them to pull out in front of you.

All major intersections in the Villages area need to ban turning left on green and only allow with the turn arrow. This intersection is a problem when turning left from any direction.

amen.

Disagree. Never liked the idea of catering to the lowest common denominator. Teach people to drive correctly, DEMAND that they drive correctly, but don't punish us all for the inadequacies of the few.

In another thread there is talk of changing the inefficient timing of the lights at Lake Sumter. Now this comment wants to make all intersections less efficient by requiring me to wait for my light to cycle rather than turning left across an empty road.

I appreciated the flashing yellow heading south from Morse onto 44. That's gone now.

I appreciate all the input. Here’s what happened:
I was westbound on 466A going to turn left onto Buena Vista. I was the first car in line and I was a car length into the intersection. Traffic was heavy and I waited for the light to turn yellow. When it did I proceed slowly as the oncoming traffic came to a stop. I then, still carefully, proceeded to make the turn. Suddenly my passenger door exploded with a crash. I don’t know where he came from but he was driving very fast, judging by the damage. After the light turned yellow it was 5-6 seconds later that I was struck. It was NOT as the paper said that it was a green light and I failed to yield. I would very much like someone that saw the accident to verify my account.

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You should talk to a lawyer and not post stuff about the accident on social media.

All vehicles need cameras. Spend 30 bucks on Amazon. It saved me from a traffic violator. Other party flat out lied and caved when insurance got video,
Disgusted the other party does not get charged with false police statements

Although I appreciate the advise, I am really looking for a witness.

2nd case of auto accident lying that I heard in 1 week. Friend just told us a story about a young girl hitting their car with her mom's car who after hitting her came out of the car and asked if she was all right. Young girl admitted it was her fault, then called her mom (who was a paralegal), then changed her story not admitting to fault. Mom advised her what to say. Be careful out there, get written statements if you can, or quickly record their confession if possible. People BS to get out of paying and it just isn't right. While this doesn't assist the OP question, whoever reading keep this in mind. You should never have to pay for someone else's mistake involving damage to your vehicle or yourself.

My sister replied to her story saying last time someone caused an accident to her car she quickly grabbed a witness and took their info. Whatever you can do in the quickest amount of time to help your case. Just figure that they're gonna lie at some point.

Second that idea about left turns on signal only. Anyone expecting drivers to adhere to the rules of the road as the Bible is deluded.

There seems to be several unbiased witnesses. Law enforcement is pretty good at getting to the facts.

It's the reason I sold my bike within a month after having it shipped here. I had more close calls in that month than in the previous five years in Minnesota.

I am a strong advocate of

1) Driver's license renewal after age 60 every two years rather than every eight as it is now;

2) periodic testing (road and general knowledge) for every driver's license renewal after age 60; and

3) Strong enforcement of traffic laws AND more stringent penalties for those who violate them. The "punishment" doled out in Florida for violation of traffic laws would be laughable in just about every other state.

But in this case, if the OP's story is accurate, the problem wasn't the left turn it was the other driver running a red light. I've experienced that, though as a near miss, and can believe it.

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It is still there. Now on the 2nd page

:confused: What did I just look at and read? :shrug:

OMG, from the photo - the motorcyclist had enough room to swerve! He is young and perhaps hasn‘t been taught defensive riding. Doesn’t matter what light, as a rider you avoid anything in front of you.

Sorry. It was moved down from the top story.

your correct there is absolutely nothing wrong with making the left turn if you do it the way your supposed to . The rule works everywhere in USA , but we should have to change it here, just like the roundabouts , , and don’t get me started on how many times I’ve had to honk my horn because people won’t turn right on red , FYI the guy who wants the rule changes for over 60 drivers should just pay attention to his own driving ,I’m in Orlando 3or 4 nights a month and driving back at all hours , I’m still going up to ocala to eat some nights and I drive to Miami every 4 or 5 weeks , I’m 83 no tickets and knock on wood no accidents , worry about your own driving and I’ll do the same

hmmmm sounds like lawyers pleading there clients case in the papers before the trial . I mean who does this , pleading your case on a talk site

One problem is that people know that, if you are turning left when the light is yellow and it turns red, you still have 3 or 4 seconds before the oncoming traffic will get a green light. So, some people will play the odds and assume that they have time to make the turn on red.

Very well said

What is the other side of the villages ? You mean the Daily Sin ? Or does T V's have another site too ?

The OP has stated he is OK. The details of the accident appear to be in dispute. But more important, is there any word on the motorcyclist?

It is a computer news source for the Villages. Links from TOTV to it do not work.

FWIW, FB posts don't sound good.

Aren’t there cameras at that intersection?

My point was that a left turn on arrow only eliminates the need to enter an intersection and wait for oncoming traffic to clear before completing the turn. There would be no discussion here if that were this case.

Vielen Dank. Damit legen wir gleich los.

I've often wondered just how many people see driving as some kind of inalienable right. It isn't, you know. It is a PRIVILEGE granted to you by the laws of whatever state you're living in. You pass a written test (once) to show that you understand the laws, you take a road test (once, in most cases) to show your competency, and the State issues you a little card saying that you have the right to drive on their roads.

It can be a problem, though. Competencies start failing as we age, and possibly moving from a state with relatively unchallenging driving (South Dakota, for example) to Florida where a sort of wild-west ethic seems to reign on the crowded roadways can be especially challenging. Maybe our skills were good enough for South Dakota. But Florida? Add to that the fact that state driving laws vary by state, sometimes significantly.

I doubt anyone here can deny that driving skills as exemplified in TV are pretty suspect; often dangerous, and even deadly. The ONLY way to effectively control that is periodic testing, and denial of license if we don't measure up.

Do you think all of your silly honking has any effect on the person who doesn't want to turn right on a red light?

In my case, sometimes I turn right on red and sometimes I don't feel like it.

Doesn't everyone just love people who make up their own rules and then shove them down your throat??????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

It depends on the person you are honking at.

Right turn on red is "allowed" but is not a rule. Nobody is going to cause an accident if they don't turn on red.

Honk away.

Correct----you are not required by law to turn on red, but it is pretty much the norm as well as common courtesy.

You are not required by law to cover your mouth when coughing or sneezing either, nor does the law required you to hold your flatulence until you exit the elevator.

So most of us will continue to "honk away", incessantly, until they get the hint.

So, a driver has the right to not turn on red, but the driver behind him/her has the right to honk. Got it.