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HawkinsGuy 11-14-2022 10:53 AM

Propane Fire Pit on Lanai?
 
Thinking about putting a small propane fire pit on my screened in lanai. Is this OK or should the fire pit be on the concrete pad outside the lanai?

ThirdOfFive 11-14-2022 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by HawkinsGuy (Post 2157510)
Thinking about putting a small propane fire pit on my screened in lanai. Is this OK or should the fire pit be on the concrete pad outside the lanai?

Maybe a question for your insurance agent?

villagetinker 11-14-2022 11:31 AM

Ours has been inside the lanai for almost 10 years, the screening in that area is almost 15 feet high.

asianthree 11-14-2022 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2157512)
Maybe a question for your insurance agent?

Or from someone who actually has first hand experience.

We have a 23” height fire table, in our birdcage. No issues. Our neighbors have a square 8’ high top table with fire area in the middle. The table is under their lanai, which is standard height. They have not had any ceiling issues.

Our lanai ceiling is 10’ so we would use our fire table, but not sure about a high table top height.

Insurance wise, depends on who you have, but no where does our policy say anything about fire tables, or pits

Whitley 11-14-2022 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2157556)
Or from someone who actually has first hand experience.

We have a 23” height fire table, in our birdcage. No issues. Our neighbors have a square 8’ high top table with fire area in the middle. The table is under their lanai, which is standard height. They have not had any ceiling issues.

Our lanai ceiling is 10’ so we would use our fire table, but not sure about a high table top height.

Insurance wise, depends on who you have, but no where does our policy say anything about fire tables, or pits

How often do you use it?

Full-timer 11-14-2022 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by HawkinsGuy (Post 2157510)
Thinking about putting a small propane fire pit on my screened in lanai. Is this OK or should the fire pit be on the concrete pad outside the lanai?

Why on earth would ANYONE think of putting a firepit INSIDE a living space? Do you not see ANY potential of danger from this thought?

Add to this, if an issue did arise, do you really think your insurance would cover it?

Sorry for being direct on this but.............

Full-timer 11-14-2022 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by HawkinsGuy (Post 2157510)
Thinking about putting a small propane fire pit on my screened in lanai. Is this OK or should the fire pit be on the concrete pad outside the lanai?

Do Propane Fire Pits Give Off Carbon Monoxide?

Whitley 11-14-2022 03:10 PM

I am pretty sure my sister in law gives off carbon monoxide as well.

Full-timer 11-14-2022 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2157522)
Ours has been inside the lanai for almost 10 years, the screening in that area is almost 15 feet high.

The fact that people know this could be an issue and still do it is very disturbing.

This is how we get statistics.

You have no idea of the possible amount you are taking in and betting you don't have an operational detector.

How about you look up long term effects. Then you would understand. Or, maybe not.

Whitley 11-14-2022 03:18 PM

A screened area is outside
 
Wouldn't the screened lanai be outside ? It is the backyard with a screen around it to keep bugs out. We have had propane stoves, wood burning ovens; I'd think they were more of an issue as they were inside. Delta says:You can use a gas powered fire pit in a screened in porch. That being said, ensure your fire pit is pre-approved for use by your city first. In addition, ensure the location, ventilation, flooring and ceiling height meets your fire pit manufacturers requirements. Remember, safety first always.
Another source says:
You should have no problem using a propane fire pit in a screened porch, provided that you follow the guidelines listed below:

At least three screened walls that are permanently open (windows that can be opened and closed do not count).
The open area of screened walls needs to be at least 30%.

Kelevision 11-14-2022 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Full-timer (Post 2157561)
Why on earth would ANYONE think of putting a firepit INSIDE a living space? Do you not see ANY potential of danger from this thought?

Add to this, if an issue did arise, do you really think your insurance would cover it?

Sorry for being direct on this but.............

they asked about their lanai NOT an inside enclosed space.

Kelevision 11-14-2022 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Full-timer (Post 2157566)
The fact that people know this could be an issue and still do it is very disturbing.

This is how we get statistics.

You have no idea of the possible amount you are taking in and betting you don't have an operational detector.

How about you look up long term effects. Then you would understand. Or, maybe not.

The fact that people don’t know the difference in outdoor lanai and inside space is also very disturbing

Bogie Shooter 11-14-2022 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Full-timer (Post 2157562)

Did you even read the link you posted?
This from the link……

Propane fire pits give off carbon monoxide, which is why they shouldn’t be used indoors without ample ventilation. Outside, the fire pit’s carbon monoxide dissipates quickly and avoids any issues as long as you’re not standing directly over the fire.

Who would stand directly over the pit?

Full-timer 11-14-2022 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Kelevision (Post 2157573)
they asked about their lanai NOT an inside enclosed space.

If it has a permanent roof and doors to inside..............

villagetinker 11-14-2022 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Full-timer (Post 2157566)
The fact that people know this could be an issue and still do it is very disturbing.

This is how we get statistics.

You have no idea of the possible amount you are taking in and betting you don't have an operational detector.

How about you look up long term effects. Then you would understand. Or, maybe not.

I should have stated BIRDCAGE and not lanai, sorry.

dewilson58 11-14-2022 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Full-timer (Post 2157566)

How about you look up long term effects.

WE R old.............doesn't matter.

:MOJE_whot:

HawkinsGuy 11-14-2022 06:10 PM

Thanks all. Rethinking the idea now and will probably place it on the concrete pad outside my lanai. CO scares me.

Bill14564 11-14-2022 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HawkinsGuy (Post 2157596)
Thanks all. Rethinking the idea now and will probably place it on the concrete pad outside my lanai. CO scares me.

You're putting it in a screened lanai where you can hear your neighbors, smell what they're cooking on the grill, get wet if it's raining, and watch your lanai ceiling fans move during a tropical storm, right? That really does not fit the description of an enclosed area.

An enclosed lanai with glass windows to keep the breeze out would be enclosed. I might be concerned about a lanai that is only open on one small end but enclosed on the other three. If I have to worry about getting wet when it rains and the wind turns my ceiling fans then I'm not worried about a buildup of CO, but that's just me.

Bogie Shooter 11-14-2022 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by HawkinsGuy (Post 2157596)
Thanks all. Rethinking the idea now and will probably place it on the concrete pad outside my lanai. CO scares me.

That’s too bad…………….

Altavia 11-14-2022 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2157599)
You're putting it in a screened lanai where you can hear your neighbors, smell what they're cooking on the grill, get wet if it's raining and the wind blows, and watch your lanai ceiling fans move during a tropical storm, right? That really does not fit the description of an enclosed.

An enclosed lanai with glass windows to keep the breeze out would be enclosed. I might be concerned about a lanai that is only open on one small end but enclosed on the other three. But, if I have to worry about getting wet when it rains and the wind turns my ceiling fans then I'm not worried about a buildup of CO, but that's just me.

Exactly, I have one on the Lanai, no worries except when the hurricane got it wet.

tophcfa 11-14-2022 07:38 PM

No worries, enjoy. As long as you don’t leave it unattended and the space is well ventilated then it’s all good.

EdFNJ 11-14-2022 11:38 PM

LOL, posted in wrong topic!

bowlingal 11-15-2022 06:04 AM

you can certainly put fire pit in your enclosed lanai if you want to burn your house down

bowlingal 11-15-2022 06:06 AM

you can certainly put a fire pit inside your lanai if you want to burn your house down....willing to take that chance?

rstebbins 11-15-2022 06:37 AM

If you can have a barbeque in your screened lanai, you can have a fire pit. I have a 10 foot ceiling in my lanai and don't have issues. There is a ceiling fan almost overhead. During the winter when I use the fire pit (coffee table style) I put the fan on reverse and low to keep heat away from ceiling. Have not had any issues.

sowilts 11-15-2022 07:21 AM

We have one on our 38 x 12 lanai and it is perfect. Use it when my wife wants too. It is too warm for me. 😎

Bill14564 11-15-2022 07:43 AM

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midiwiz 11-15-2022 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by HawkinsGuy (Post 2157510)
Thinking about putting a small propane fire pit on my screened in lanai. Is this OK or should the fire pit be on the concrete pad outside the lanai?

we do it all the time, if you are enclosed I'd recommend keeping it closer to a door/window that you can crack open. That would take out any propane 'overrun'

GpaVader 11-15-2022 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2157576)
Did you even read the link you posted?
This from the link……

Who would stand directly over the pit?

Maybe someone is roasting their chest or nuts.....

Joe C. 11-15-2022 09:02 AM

A propane firepit in a lanai isn't any more of a hazard than a propane stove in the kitchen. Don't worry about it.

dewilson58 11-15-2022 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe C. (Post 2157731)
A propane firepit in a lanai isn't any more of a hazard than a propane stove in the kitchen. Don't worry about it.

As long as "you" are buying quality.
There are a lot of junk pits out there and I would not risk my retirement home.

Pmarlow 11-15-2022 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by HawkinsGuy (Post 2157510)
Thinking about putting a small propane fire pit on my screened in lanai. Is this OK or should the fire pit be on the concrete pad outside the lanai?

We have had one in our screened in lanai with 10’ ceilings for the last 3 years. No issues and it makes the lanai usable especially on cool nights.

Garywt 11-15-2022 05:59 PM

Our fire pit is outside on our patio and we love it there. It is nice to sit out and enjoy a fire, look at the stars and moon etc. we did not want to deal with any possible discoloration by having the fire pit or bbq in the lanai.

Michael 61 11-15-2022 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2157512)
Maybe a question for your insurance agent?

As a retired insurance claims manager, you may have a denied insurance claim from a fire loss in this situation - I wouldn’t do it.

HoosierPa 11-15-2022 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by HawkinsGuy (Post 2157510)
Thinking about putting a small propane fire pit on my screened in lanai. Is this OK or should the fire pit be on the concrete pad outside the lanai?

The safest bet is not under lanai

kkingston57 11-15-2022 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by HawkinsGuy (Post 2157510)
Thinking about putting a small propane fire pit on my screened in lanai. Is this OK or should the fire pit be on the concrete pad outside the lanai?

A lot of variables that need to be adressed, such as size of pit, ventiation on the lanai, locaction of the pit, type of ceiling in the lanai.

Altavia 11-15-2022 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierPa (Post 2157850)
The safest bet is not under lanai

Interesting how people who have no problem driving an automobile 55+ mph on two lane county roads with no shoulders have issues with low risks...

Maker 11-16-2022 09:05 AM

If you decide to put a fire pit or grill in an enclosed area (even a screened one) then spend a few dollars to buy a CO alarm with a digital display of the measurement. Just like the one you should have inside your home. It may read zero for a long time. The one day something with the combustion goes bad, it will alert to save your life. Also keep them away from walls and screens. I've seen lots of melted vinyl siding from grills as far as 3ft away.

ElDiabloJoe 11-16-2022 09:49 AM

Don't let the naysayers and overly cautious people dissuade you. Some folks are scared of their own shadows. Use common sense. If you are far enough away from combustibles, and have sufficient height clearance and ventilation, you will be just fine 99 times out of 100. For reference, here's the set up I have on the lake house up north, used often and without any issue. That's a vinyl siding ceiling, FYI. It's a little more spendy than the firepit tables from Academy Sports, but this Bali I got from amazon does a very nice job. That's a standard BBQ grill propane tank in the storage underneath that fuels the magic.

https://i.imgur.com/9tvhjS5.jpg

ECPRO 11-16-2022 10:32 AM

Restaurants do it all the time.


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