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schwarz 11-17-2022 03:50 PM

Boone Gate and others
 
Looks like potential improvements are being made in the gate system. Currently all for Boone gate appear to be down, and have been for some time. Every time I drive in through the gate or view others doing that, the attendant waves if they do anything at all, except for one lady who trys to slow folks down. Seems over the 16 or so hours the building is being staffed, we are paying around $200 a day to get waved at, while little or no attempt is made to enforce the stop sign that is prominently there. The intersection there has always been dangerous and is worse now than ever.
Put in a series of speed bumps and eliminate the staffing expense. We would all be safer that way.

Keefelane66 11-17-2022 03:53 PM

Between 466 and 466a it’s similar mostly unmanned gates just portable STOP SIGNS going on almost a month

Mrs.Guy 11-17-2022 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by schwarz (Post 2158373)
Looks like potential improvements are being made in the gate system. Currently all for Boone gate appear to be down, and have been for some time. Every time I drive in through the gate or view others doing that, the attendant waves if they do anything at all, except for one lady who trys to slow folks down. Seems over the 16 or so hours the building is being staffed, we are paying around $200 a day to get waved at, while little or no attempt is made to enforce the stop sign that is prominently there. The intersection there has always been dangerous and is worse now than ever.
Put in a series of speed bumps and eliminate the staffing expense. We would all be safer that way.

:shocked: Boy, are they underpaid!!!!

Keefelane66 11-17-2022 05:07 PM

No kidding most are part time no benefits, no holiday pay, 2 weeks unpaid vacation, minimum wage if you are an occasional worker 2 days unpaid vacation. Been there done that I quit.
On the other hand Publix has a great benefits package but I don’t need to work

starflyte1 11-17-2022 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by schwarz (Post 2158373)
Looks like potential improvements are being made in the gate system. Currently all for Boone gate appear to be down, and have been for some time. Every time I drive in through the gate or view others doing that, the attendant waves if they do anything at all, except for one lady who trys to slow folks down. Seems over the 16 or so hours the building is being staffed, we are paying around $200 a day to get waved at, while little or no attempt is made to enforce the stop sign that is prominently there. The intersection there has always been dangerous and is worse now than ever.
Put in a series of speed bumps and eliminate the staffing expense. We would all be safer that way.

Sorry, I am against speed bumps. Any speed bump at any speed is very painful to many people with bad backs.

rhood 11-17-2022 05:10 PM

Y’all want some cheese to go with that whine ?

schwarz 11-17-2022 05:18 PM

Not looking for wine, just a more intelligent way to spend our amenity money. The attendants are supposed to stop everyone coming in at the stop sign not simply wave them through into the intersection. Sadly this is rarely if ever done.
There are I believe many dozens of gates that have attendants 16 hours a day, every day. You do the math.

Priebehouse 11-18-2022 06:50 AM

Defending the attendants.
 
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Originally Posted by schwarz (Post 2158403)
Not looking for wine, just a more intelligent way to spend our amenity money. The attendants are supposed to stop everyone coming in at the stop sign not simply wave them through into the intersection. Sadly this is rarely if ever done.
There are I believe many dozens of gates that have attendants 16 hours a day, every day. You do the math.

I believe these attendants have a purpose. However, and apparently in this case, some of these folks don't take the job as seriously as they should. If this gatekeeper does not stop vehicles like they are supposed to for safety's sake, they should be reported to their bosses at Community Watch. That person or persons should be counseled or fired. Granted, they may not be making enough to buy a house, but it's a JOB...it's what you applied for...there are rules to follow.

Ski Bum 11-18-2022 07:52 AM

Speeds bumps... in general, emergency services do not want/allow them in high traffic areas because they slow down response times.

Bogie Shooter 11-18-2022 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Priebehouse (Post 2158471)
I believe these attendants have a purpose. However, and apparently in this case, some of these folks don't take the job as seriously as they should. If this gatekeeper does not stop vehicles like they are supposed to for safety's sake, they should be reported to their bosses at Community Watch. That person or persons should be counseled or fired. Granted, they may not be making enough to buy a house, but it's a JOB...it's what you applied for...there are rules to follow.

Isn’t that what OP should have done, reported to CW, rather than post on here?

MrFlorida 11-18-2022 08:05 AM

Well now, if the gate guards stopped every car, the next post would be complaining about how inconvenient that is...can't win.

Lisanp@aol.com 11-18-2022 08:05 AM

I love the friendly wave, and I believe that the "manned" gates do have a purpose in our community. I also think that those who complain about how money is spent here should just sell now while the market is hot and move on. Once you pay your nominal amenity fee, the money is no longer yours to allocate as YOU see fit. That is the difference between the villages and an HOA. When I visited "On Top of the World" I was literally yelled at by 3 separate people in a mere 2-hours. Maybe you will fit in well there? They seem like a grumpy bunch who spend their time complaining about how to "fix" things that they don't have any oversight of.

Rodneysblue 11-18-2022 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by schwarz (Post 2158373)
Looks like potential improvements are being made in the gate system. Currently all for Boone gate appear to be down, and have been for some time. Every time I drive in through the gate or view others doing that, the attendant waves if they do anything at all, except for one lady who trys to slow folks down. Seems over the 16 or so hours the building is being staffed, we are paying around $200 a day to get waved at, while little or no attempt is made to enforce the stop sign that is prominently there. The intersection there has always been dangerous and is worse now than ever.
Put in a series of speed bumps and eliminate the staffing expense. We would all be safer that way.

Here we go again.

Pachine58 11-18-2022 08:26 AM

You do know these roads are public roads and not owned by the villages. So technically the gate people can’t stop anyone from entering. You want speed bumps take it up with the city you live in.

NotGolfer 11-18-2022 08:47 AM

Gates are gone because the "chip system" is being up-graded. It's been in the newspaper and other social media. As far as speed bumps---that's been talked about innumerable times on ToTV. The "gate-keepers".....they have been too, ad-nauseum.

DavidK 11-18-2022 08:56 AM

I have been told that the staffed and unstaffed gate arms are there for the safety of the golf carts and pedestrians crossing at busy points in the villages where the normal flow of cars would not give carts and pedestrians enough time to safely cross. The gates also allow the drivers of the cars to slow enough to see the crossing traffic. The attendants at the staffed gates should coordinate both types of traffic to keep the intersection safe and flowing. To just wave without checking for slower crossers is careless.

Philipd411 11-18-2022 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by schwarz (Post 2158373)
Looks like potential improvements are being made in the gate system. Currently all for Boone gate appear to be down, and have been for some time. Every time I drive in through the gate or view others doing that, the attendant waves if they do anything at all, except for one lady who trys to slow folks down. Seems over the 16 or so hours the building is being staffed, we are paying around $200 a day to get waved at, while little or no attempt is made to enforce the stop sign that is prominently there. The intersection there has always been dangerous and is worse now than ever.
Put in a series of speed bumps and eliminate the staffing expense. We would all be safer that way.

Speed Bump are the answer. Put in speedbumps get rid of the gate arms.

LAFwUs 11-18-2022 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Philipd411 (Post 2158525)
Speed Bump are the answer. Put in speedbumps get rid of the gate arms.

No, actually they are not. Multiple reasons why.

The entire staffed gate house, card reader, crossing arm &/or apparent lack of crossing arm 25% of the time or during "storms", is a very -very antiquated, personnel dependent system that should have/ could have been replaced decades ago.
Doing so would have saved substantial $$ over time, yet they keep putting in the same platform/system over & over, refusing to innovate, leading to the same issues, failures and discussion over & over.

I'm guessing it all has to do with $$$, whose making it and wanting to keep it that way...

PJackpot 11-18-2022 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by starflyte1 (Post 2158398)
Sorry, I am against speed bumps. Any speed bump at any speed is very painful to many people with bad backs.

I agree. And it would only be a matter of time before someone runs over the speed bump at thirty miles and hour, and then tries to sue The Villages.

dewilson58 11-18-2022 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by PJackpot (Post 2158602)
I agree. And it would only be a matter of time before someone runs over the speed bump at thirty miles and hour, and then tries to sue The Villages.


First one must ask, who owns the street.

:what:

dewilson58 11-18-2022 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by starflyte1 (Post 2158398)
Any speed bump at any speed is very painful to many people with bad backs.

:blahblahblah::blahblahblah:

jimjamuser 11-18-2022 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidK (Post 2158514)
I have been told that the staffed and unstaffed gate arms are there for the safety of the golf carts and pedestrians crossing at busy points in the villages where the normal flow of cars would not give carts and pedestrians enough time to safely cross. The gates also allow the drivers of the cars to slow enough to see the crossing traffic. The attendants at the staffed gates should coordinate both types of traffic to keep the intersection safe and flowing. To just wave without checking for slower crossers is careless.

At the Boone Gate and possibly others - as long as the gates are functioning, it is like a corner with 4 stop signs. There is plenty of time for Golf Carts to cross and very few pedestrians cross there anyway. I believe that one of the original reasons for the staffed gates was to give directions and hand out a small map to visitors that had their friend's or relatives' home addresses but needed additional help. Also, commercial vehicles might need directions.
.........Today most people put an address into their smartphone and receive directions. So, having STAFFED Gate Houses may be redundant today. I would be fine with sensed mechanical lift gates and cameras would be nice to give tickets to people who try to sneak 2 cars through with one gate opening.
.........Staff people could be better utilized in patrol vehicles to discourage crime.


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