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jebartle 11-19-2010 06:09 PM

Fair Play in the Villages????
 
Can't wait to hear the reviews on this one!!! Probably will be bumped to political!!! Right???
Ooops! Fair Game.....had a senior moment~

ssmith 11-19-2010 09:51 PM

what?
 
JeBartle, I must be missing something...I don't follow what you are saying here.

Ajack 11-19-2010 10:10 PM

Another propaganda movie starring Sean Penn. Ho hum.

jebartle 11-20-2010 03:44 AM

Fair Game
 
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Originally Posted by Ajack (Post 309900)
Another propaganda movie starring Sean Penn. Ho hum.

Ajack, Aren't you surprised that it is playing in The Villages?

Taltarzac 11-20-2010 07:58 AM

There have been some very liberal movies opening in the Villages during the time I have lived here. That's since about June 2005.

Have not seen a Michael Moore movie here yet unless you count the anti-Michael Moore movie An American Carol which had ghosts of past Republican political heroes visiting a Michael Moore like filmmaker.

Ajack 11-20-2010 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 309943)
Ajack, Aren't you surprised that it is playing in The Villages?

Well, I haven't been here long enough to really give you an informed answer to that question.
Hollywood is a left-leaning industry. It would be next to impossible to ban every film that has liberal content.

I read reviews before I make my decision on which films I see. I have eliminated many television shows because of the propaganda.

I watch TV and movies for escapism and entertainment. If I want my blood pressure to rise, I just turn on television and tune in to the network news.

Talk Host 11-20-2010 08:38 AM

While, this is very close to being bumped to political, as a lifelong conservative, I have to ask, "why should liberal leaning movies not be shown in from The Villages?"

Ajack 11-20-2010 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Talk Host (Post 309979)
While, this is very close to being bumped to political, as a lifelong conservative, I have to ask, "why should liberal leaning movies not be shown in from The Villages?"

Good question. Maybe someone could post a list of movies that were banned here.

I do know for a fact, that almost every anti-war movie from Hollywood in the last few years was a dismal failure at the box office.

Talk Host 11-20-2010 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ajack (Post 309987)
I do know for a fact,

"Facts are pesky things." (Mark Twain)

Bucco 11-20-2010 09:17 AM

WHY would anyone think to begin a thread like this....geez...get out, play golf, get some fresh air, read a book, or if you want to discuss issues involved in politics, come over to the POLITICAL forum.

suzyh 11-20-2010 09:18 AM

No idea how the manager of the theatres selects the movies, but I think it would be based on how popular the films will be in this area. That being said, 50-Cent's movie did play at the Old Mill. We went to see it the first weekend it was out, assuming it might not last long. The only other people in the theatre were a boy that didn't look old enought to be in high school, accompanied by a middle-aged man. We could help but speculate it the boy had bribed a homeless man to get him in. (That was a joke) :-)

Regarding "Fair Game" - not a big fan of Sean Penn's politics, but I think he's a great actor and enjoy his work. If I only watched movies starring actors whose politics I liked, I'd be limiting myself to re-runs of Charleton Heston and Ronald Reagan movies!

Ajack 11-20-2010 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Talk Host (Post 309991)
"Facts are pesky things." (Mark Twain)

LOL That's why I said almost. There was a good war movie that won some Oscars but it wasn't a smash at box office. It did good in DVD, though. Can't remember the name, but had to do with disarming bombs.

Ajack 11-20-2010 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by suzyh (Post 309998)
No idea how the manager of the theatres selects the movies, but I think it would be based on how popular the films will be in this area. That being said, 50-Cent's movie did play at the Old Mill. We went to see it the first weekend it was out, assuming it might not last long. The only other people in the theatre were a boy that didn't look old enought to be in high school, accompanied by a middle-aged man. We could help but speculate it the boy had bribed a homeless man to get him in. (That was a joke) :-)

Regarding "Fair Game" - not a big fan of Sean Penn's politics, but I think he's a great actor and enjoy his work. If I only watched movies starring actors whose politics I liked, I'd be limiting myself to re-runs of Charleton Heston and Ronald Reagan movies!

Here is a 5 page list of conservative actors(and actresses) from past to present. A few surprises.

http://www.ranker.com/list/actors-re...-conservatives

suzyh 11-20-2010 09:38 AM

Thanks Ajack. What a great list!

BobKat1 11-20-2010 09:50 AM

Good to know this hasn't strayed TOO far off track.:)

Taltarzac 11-20-2010 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Ajack (Post 309999)
LOL That's why I said almost. There was a good war movie that won some Oscars but it wasn't a smash at box office. It did good in DVD, though. Can't remember the name, but had to do with disarming bombs.

The Hurt Locker. Believe it won a lot of Oscars last year while up against Avatar.

Taltarzac 11-20-2010 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Ajack (Post 310005)
Here is a 5 page list of conservative actors(and actresses) from past to present. A few surprises.

http://www.ranker.com/list/actors-re...-conservatives

Interesting list.

Taj44 11-26-2010 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Talk Host (Post 309979)
While, this is very close to being bumped to political, as a lifelong conservative, I have to ask, "why should liberal leaning movies not be shown in The Villages?"

Thank you. I would hope that we could have our choice of movies here without Big Brother trying to dictate what we should watch simply because it doesn't jive with their (the Morse's) point of view. And although it may have a liberal slant, it is based on true facts. Naomi Watts stars as CIA agent Valerie Plame, whose marriage to former ambassador Joseph Wilson (Sean Penn) became strained when he criticized the Bush administration. The Administration retaliated by outing his wife as an undercover operative. I like Sean Penn in about anything, and look forward to seeing this movie.

Sally Jo 12-04-2010 10:56 PM

The Washington Post's, hardly a conservative newspapaer, editorial board says "Fair Game" is full of distortions and outright inventions.

CSilvestrucci 12-05-2010 01:03 AM

Thanks for the list. Very interesting to say the least. Some total surprises

Taj44 12-05-2010 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Sally Jo (Post 313168)
The Washington Post's, hardly a conservative newspapaer, editorial board says "Fair Game" is full of distortions and outright inventions.

It was interesting to note that the Post's "editorial review" which you quoted was entitled 'Fair Game' gets some things about the Valerie Plame case right, some wrong'. Fair Game is advertised as a docudrama, in other words it is based on true facts, but literary license is used to reconstruct scenes/charactars and bring events to life, which will make the movie entertaining for viewers, but can be misleading. I've read that in this movie, the charactars are actually composites, but they represent a sobering reminder of what was at stake beyond the political theater staged by way of Fox News and MSNBC.


The Post's "critic review" by Anh Hornaday on Nov. 5 called it a riveting drama minus the rhetoric, an engaging thriller and taut, serious adult film of a quality that Hollywood rarely produces anymore.

Sally Jo 12-05-2010 08:05 AM

The trouble is most people don't bother digging to find out if it is true. They take what they see as gospel.

graciegirl 12-05-2010 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Taj44 (Post 311431)
Thank you. I would hope that we could have our choice of movies here without Big Brother trying to dictate what we should watch simply because it doesn't jive with their (the Morse's) point of view. And although it may have a liberal slant, it is based on true facts. Naomi Watts stars as CIA agent Valerie Plame, whose marriage to former ambassador Joseph Wilson (Sean Penn) became strained when he criticized the Bush administration. The Administration retaliated by outing his wife as an undercover operative. I like Sean Penn in about anything, and look forward to seeing this movie.

Not so much JUST the Morses point of view. I have heard repeatedly that the demographics of The Villages population is approximately 75% registered in one political party.

I am trying to keep this out of politics. How am I doin'?:shrug::a20:

Taj44 12-05-2010 09:35 AM

I saw it written somewhere, I can look for it, that the statistics are 60% Republican, 40% other. Forty percent is a pretty large percentage percentage of the population. In my opinion, a smart business person would try to market their product to both demographics. But you're right Gracie, this is a movie discussion forum, not political.

Update: I couldn't find the statics overall for the Villages, but did find this for the Sumter County portion of the Villages: Of registered voters - 52% Republicans, 48% other. And including all of Sumter County (outside TV as well as TV) the percentages are 47% Republicans, 53% other.

macgolfnut 12-08-2010 06:51 PM

I think one has to be a little careful as to the validity of what we see and hear through any form of the media, be it the Washington Post, Time, Fox news, MSNBC, Oliver Stone movies, or rags like the National Enquirer. Their stories are often based on fact but filled with opinions, prejudice, and changes to make them more entertaining and sellable. We saw "Fair Game" this afternoon and found it very interesting. Naomi Watts and Sean Penn are excellent actors and the story was compelling and fascinating. If your politics are such that you either refuse to see it or go to it with the preconceived notion that you will hate it because it's produced by those "flaming liberals" in Hollywood, then you probably won't believe a word of it and will hate it. Wouldn't it be nice if we could all be open minded and explore the facts from both sides of the aisle before we come to conclusions.

gemorc 12-08-2010 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ajack (Post 309972)
Well, I haven't been here long enough to really give you an informed answer to that question.
Hollywood is a left-leaning industry. It would be next to impossible to ban every film that has liberal content.

I read reviews before I make my decision on which films I see. I have eliminated many television shows because of the propaganda.

I watch TV and movies for escapism and entertainment. If I want my blood pressure to rise, I just turn on television and tune in to the network news.

:agree: Except I turn on Fox News for true heartburn.

NJblue 12-22-2010 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taj44 (Post 311431)
Thank you. I would hope that we could have our choice of movies here without Big Brother trying to dictate what we should watch simply because it doesn't jive with their (the Morse's) point of view. And although it may have a liberal slant, it is based on true facts. Naomi Watts stars as CIA agent Valerie Plame, whose marriage to former ambassador Joseph Wilson (Sean Penn) became strained when he criticized the Bush administration. The Administration retaliated by outing his wife as an undercover operative. I like Sean Penn in about anything, and look forward to seeing this movie.

Having not seen the movie, did they make it clear that the person who was the source of the leak was Richard Armitage who was not exactly a pro-war member of the administration? Did they also make it clear that when Plame took this to court that the court threw the case out? And that when she appealed it, the appeals court also threw it out? Also, did it make it clear that then solicitor general and now supreme court justice Elena Kagan also agreed with the decision to throw the case out? Without such pertinent facts included it is hard to claim that the movie was based on facts. If they were included, then perhaps the movie may be worth seeing.

bimmertl 12-22-2010 10:18 PM

At the end of the movie, it was stated Armitage was named as the source of the leak.

The civil suit filed by Plame and Wilson against Cheney et al was not mentioned in the movie.

Taj44 12-23-2010 01:50 PM

I believe the lawsuits were thrown out on jurisdictional grounds, not for reason of guilt or innocence. The U.S. Court of Appeals said that Plame and Wilson did not meet the legal standard for constitutional claims, in part because the lawsuit hinges on alleged violations of the Privacy Act — a law that does not cover the president or the vice president's offices.
Plame’s attorneys had said the lawsuit would be an uphill battle. Public officials are normally immune from such lawsuits filed in connection with their jobs.

gongoozler 12-25-2010 07:44 PM

I'm an independent and thought it was a solid movie with very good performances by the actors . . . two of my friends who are die-hard conservative also liked the movie as a movie. It certainly was worth the cost of admission and was not a Michael Moore preaching movie!

:crap2:

Taj44 12-25-2010 09:15 PM

I agree. What I like too, was how it focused on her life, in particular her marriage, and how that almost disintegrated due to the stress of the outing and how the government treated her. And it reminded us of the folks overseas who she worked with who became victims as well.

BBQMan 12-26-2010 09:12 AM

Probably Not an Intelligent Selection for The Villages
 
Fair Game was released as an 'art house' film. Later it was tried in general release, but maxed out at 436 screens. Now rapidly disappearing. On Rotten Tomatoes it received a 74% rating from the top critics and a 72% audience rating - in other words a good, not great film. Box office was not good. It ranks 131st among all films released in 2010 per boxofficemojo.

If I were doing the selections for The Villages theaters, I would not have considered this film. It would be a waste of a screen. I could make much more by bringing back Boynton Beach Club which had a lower box office nationwide than Fair Game but did very well here. It appears that the policy is to give the customers what they want. Makes sense to me. I'll probably get it on Netflix if it is available for instant view.


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