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bsloan1960 11-24-2022 07:18 PM

Street has 40 homes- why are house numbers 4 digits?
 
Just curious if there is a system used to number house addresses. Why would a street with 40 homes have addresses like 3245 rather than numbers 1 through 40?

MSchad 11-25-2022 06:34 AM

Because numbering usually starts at a point in community and increases the further out a building is from that point.

BrianL99 11-25-2022 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MSchad (Post 2160614)
Because numbering usually starts at a point in community and increases the further out a building is from that point.

WRONG

Street numbers are typically designated by a City, Town or Development Authority (in cooperation with local government) to simplify addresses and to avoid confusion for (2) entities ... public safety and the U.S. Post Office.

In some cases, the 1st number or 2, with be a region/area locator, followed by a sequential number on the particular street (with gaps left for future expansion and the typical even/odd sides of the street).

I don't know how The Village numbering system works, but I can assure you, it was designed with public safety and convenience in mind.

golfing eagles 11-25-2022 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by bsloan1960 (Post 2160570)
Just curious if there is a system used to number house addresses. Why would a street with 40 homes have addresses like 3245 rather than numbers 1 through 40?

Interestingly, there is a street near Bonifay named Mockingbird Lane, and on google maps there is actually a house numbered 1313. I wanted to drive by on Halloween, but I was afraid Herman and Grandpa would be waiting:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

MSchad 11-25-2022 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2160628)
WRONG

Street numbers are typically designated by a City, Town or Development Authority (in cooperation with local government) to simplify addresses and to avoid confusion for (2) entities ... public safety and the U.S. Post Office.

In some cases, the 1st number or 2, with be a region/area locator, followed by a sequential number on the particular street (with gaps left for future expansion and the typical even/odd sides of the street).

I don't know how The Village numbering system works, but I can assure you, it was designed with public safety and convenience in mind.

So they decide to start numbering at some point for some reason and then in some increasing sequencing fashion from that point?

Arctic Fox 11-25-2022 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bsloan1960 (Post 2160570)
Just curious if there is a system used to number house addresses. Why would a street with 40 homes have addresses like 3245 rather than numbers 1 through 40?

Our numbers jump by 100 every time a side road joins - makes it quicker to find a particular number if it is some way down the street

Or maybe the system is sponsored by the hardware stores :-)

Kahuna32162 11-25-2022 08:50 AM

Just be happy you don't live in Marion County where the street addresses are all 5 digit plus a directional abbreviation and number and then the street name!

djlnc 11-25-2022 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by bsloan1960 (Post 2160570)
Just curious if there is a system used to number house addresses. Why would a street with 40 homes have addresses like 3245 rather than numbers 1 through 40?

I'll answer this as if it's a serious question...

You generally have a major east-west street and north-south street near the center of a city. As you go north from the east-west street, the house numbers increase from 1 or some small number. As you go south, they increase in a likewise manner. Same thing as you go east or west from the north-south street where that numbering starts.

Bonus information: House numbers on one side of the street will be even numbers, and on the other side...odd numbers!

Velvet 11-25-2022 10:38 AM

I thought it was done on purpose to keep the FedEx guy guessing as to where you might actually live.

rjm1cc 11-25-2022 10:57 AM

Some areas build logic into the numbers. Maybe distance from a point, same street name used elsewhere with lower or higher numbers etc. Go to your county web site and try researching.

keithwand 11-25-2022 11:03 AM

Because 5 digits costs more than 4

BrianL99 11-25-2022 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by djlnc (Post 2160659)
I'll answer this as if it's a serious question...

You generally have a major east-west street and north-south street near the center of a city. As you go north from the east-west street, the house numbers increase from 1 or some small number. As you go south, they increase in a likewise manner. Same thing as you go east or west from the north-south street where that numbering starts.

Bonus information: House numbers on one side of the street will be even numbers, and on the other side...odd numbers!

I've been in most every major city in the USA and I've never seen a system like that. Street #'s may increase in that way, not house numbers. Every city/town adopts it's own numbering system, based on convenience and safety. If a house/building number consist of more than 3 or 4 numbers, the preceding numbers are likely a "grid #" of one sort or another.

bagboy 11-25-2022 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2160703)
I've been in most every major city in the USA and I've never seen a system like that. Street #'s may increase in that way, not house numbers. Every city/town adopts it's own numbering system, based on convenience and safety. If a house/building number consist of more than 3 or 4 numbers, the preceding numbers are likely a "grid #" of one sort or another.

Columbus Ohio is exactly like that. Everything starts at Broad Street and High Street. Numerical Streets and Avenues get higher as you move out of downtown,, as do the house numbers, until you get to unincorporated areas. Also, even numbered addresses are on the east side of north/south routes, and even numbered addresses are on the north side of east/west routes.

djlnc 11-25-2022 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2160703)
I've been in most every major city in the USA and I've never seen a system like that. Street #'s may increase in that way, not house numbers. Every city/town adopts it's own numbering system, based on convenience and safety. If a house/building number consist of more than 3 or 4 numbers, the preceding numbers are likely a "grid #" of one sort or another.

So the WalMart at 7818 W. Colonial (west of I-4) and the Dairy Queen at 7825 E. Colonial (east of I-4) are something like 10 miles apart in Orlando, but in the same grid?

bsloan1960 11-25-2022 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by djlnc (Post 2160659)
I'll answer this as if it's a serious question...

You generally have a major east-west street and north-south street near the center of a city. As you go north from the east-west street, the house numbers increase from 1 or some small number. As you go south, they increase in a likewise manner. Same thing as you go east or west from the north-south street where that numbering starts.

Bonus information: House numbers on one side of the street will be even numbers, and on the other side...odd numbers!

Why wouldn't be a serious question? We have about 30 homes on our street in Mass. The house number begin with 2 and go up to 50. The remaining 20 numbers would be assigned to the empty lots if homes were to be built.

gobuck827 11-25-2022 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bsloan1960 (Post 2160570)
Just curious if there is a system used to number house addresses. Why would a street with 40 homes have addresses like 3245 rather than numbers 1 through 40?

Official 911 addresses are assigned by a department of the county. In Sumter it is the Addressing Office.

Addressing | Sumter County, FL - Official Website

Hape2Bhr 11-25-2022 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bagboy (Post 2160707)
Columbus Ohio is exactly like that. Everything starts at Broad Street and High Street. Numerical Streets and Avenues get higher as you move out of downtown,, as do the house numbers, until you get to unincorporated areas. Also, even numbered addresses are on the east side of north/south routes, and even numbered addresses are on the north side of east/west routes.

Questionable if Columbus if a major city. :jester:

bagboy 11-25-2022 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Hape2Bhr (Post 2160754)
Questionable if Columbus if a major city. :jester:

14th largest city in the country, but...

Worldseries27 11-26-2022 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by djlnc (Post 2160659)
i'll answer this as if it's a serious question...

You generally have a major east-west street and north-south street near the center of a city. As you go north from the east-west street, the house numbers increase from 1 or some small number. As you go south, they increase in a likewise manner. Same thing as you go east or west from the north-south street where that numbering starts.

Bonus information: House numbers on one side of the street will be even numbers, and on the other side...odd numbers!

up north sw streets are even numbered
ne are odd. Many years chasing addresses

rrtjp 11-26-2022 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2160635)
Interestingly, there is a street near Bonifay named Mockingbird Lane, and on google maps there is actually a house numbered 1313. I wanted to drive by on Halloween, but I was afraid Herman and Grandpa would be waiting:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Lol

WingedFoot78 11-26-2022 06:08 AM

What about the street names in this area with two designators like Street Road. Couldn't make up their minds what they wanted to call it?

MandoMan 11-26-2022 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2160703)
I've been in most every major city in the USA and I've never seen a system like that. Street #'s may increase in that way, not house numbers. Every city/town adopts it's own numbering system, based on convenience and safety. If a house/building number consist of more than 3 or 4 numbers, the preceding numbers are likely a "grid #" of one sort or another.

That’s definitely how it is done in Denver. My in-laws live in the small town of Loma Linda, CA, in San Bernardino County. Their street has under forty houses, but there number is in the 13 thousands because of where it is in the county. Every house in town has 5 digits.

Annie66 11-26-2022 07:04 AM

I've read all the previous posts .... yes, I know that is so unusual for this site. They do not explain why my street number is repeated on the next street over.

M2inOR 11-26-2022 07:32 AM

In the Portland Metro area, the address numbering system starts in downtown Portland.

The are is divided into 5 quadrants (yes I know quad means 4).

NW, SW, N, NE, SE

Out in my old neighborhood about 12 miles to thewest, I was at 17930 NW Fieldstone. Closest main westside N-S street was NW and SW 185th Avenue. My street was a neighborhood street, a short east-west street.

There was a minor east-west road about a mile away where an east-west road was the dividing line between those NW and SW prefixed roads, streets and avenues.

The home I moved from to come to The Villages was a 4-digit house number on SW 190th Avenue which made a hard turn to the east and the road name changed to SW Kemmer Road; this was the name of the family who originally settled in the area. Addresses on that road were now 5 digits, SW 19xxx as it continued east for a few miles or so, ending at SW Murray, the major N-S avenue which was technically SW 155th Avenue.

In summary a broad grid system for getting a pretty good idea of location.

When we moved to that home in 1980 our street address was Rt 2, Box xxx. It was changed to a grid system address for public safety.

I'm visiting this week in Bucks County, PA. George Washington and William Penn slept here. Roads have names and numbers. There's also a menageries of highway names on those named streets, and there's really no way to know where you are. 😉

mkjelenbaas 11-26-2022 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by bsloan1960 (Post 2160570)
Just curious if there is a system used to number house addresses. Why would a street with 40 homes have addresses like 3245 rather than numbers 1 through 40?

This is a big question that needs investigation and we NEED to know??

sowilts 11-26-2022 07:40 AM

Our address is 1991, our neighbor two streets on the left, corner house is also 1991. We had five large boxes of furniture delivered and it was placed on the porch blocking the front door. Had to first find out where the furniture was and use a dolly to move it down the street. In an emergency someone may stop at 1991 because that is the first 1991 one sees on the road to our house. 😳

CaptainW 11-26-2022 07:46 AM

House Numbers
 
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Originally Posted by bsloan1960 (Post 2160570)
Just curious if there is a system used to number house addresses. Why would a street with 40 homes have addresses like 3245 rather than numbers 1 through 40?

I live in a village with Premier, Designer and Villa homes. The Premier homes all have three digit house numbers and the Designer homes all have four digit numbers.

dougancathy 11-26-2022 08:02 AM

addresses start from center of town

Tom M 11-26-2022 08:37 AM

So you can use it for the 4 digit garage code (or reverse it if you want to be clever)?

airstreamingypsy 11-26-2022 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by mkjelenbaas (Post 2160805)
This is a big question that needs investigation and we NEED to know??

There are people in this world who like to know things. I have often wondered, but didn't think there was any rhyme or reason. Now I know otherwise.

DonRaleigh 11-26-2022 08:58 AM

House numbering
 
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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2160703)
I've been in most every major city in the USA and I've never seen a system like that. Street #'s may increase in that way, not house numbers. Every city/town adopts it's own numbering system, based on convenience and safety. If a house/building number consist of more than 3 or 4 numbers, the preceding numbers are likely a "grid #" of one sort or another.

Indianapolis/Marion County starts house numbering at the center of the city.

Rickanvic 11-26-2022 08:59 AM

I loved they way St. Petersburg was laid out. If the address was 3214 52nd St. N. You knew it was in the 32nd Ave block and the 52nd St. On the North side of the city. Central Ave split the North and South sides. If they had a named street it fell between the numbered street. Darlington Ave was between 4th and 5th Avenue. Last 2 numbers were house placement. Even was on West side or North. Occasionally they threw in Place, Terrace, and Way. I was taught PAT put Place and Terrace same direction as Avenue. Otherwise it went with Street. I felt it was impossible to get lost in St. Pete.

Janie123 11-26-2022 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by bsloan1960 (Post 2160570)
Just curious if there is a system used to number house addresses. Why would a street with 40 homes have addresses like 3245 rather than numbers 1 through 40?

In Sumter county (or formerly old Lady Lake land), it looks like numbers on N and S streets and E and W streets go from what looks like E and W lady lake blvd and 441. I live in the 1400s and on all the N/S streets, there is a house number the same as mine. Maybe Lady Lake originally owns the numbering system from the land they owned that was then sold to the Villages.

NoMo50 11-26-2022 09:13 AM

More mindless musings on a misty Saturday morning, but I guess inquiring minds just want to know. After pondering this existential topic, a single burning question simply won't slip out of my head: What if the Hokey Pokey really is what it's all about?

RoadToad 11-26-2022 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by bsloan1960 (Post 2160570)
Just curious if there is a system used to number house addresses. Why would a street with 40 homes have addresses like 3245 rather than numbers 1 through 40?

Most of the Country adheres to a National Geological Cartography standard.
Think of a crosshairs (quadrants, as posted by someone else). There is a North/South line and an East/West line (Usually a road, like "Baseline Road" near Ocala);
Street addresses are a mileage measurement from those baselines. For example, 1250 E. Main would be 1.25 miles East of the North/South baseline. 13875 being 13.875 from its respective baseline.
Each "Standard" city block is 1/10 th of a mile.
Hence the "nn-Hundred Block. 100, 200, 300, etc. The "hundred" usually being on the street signs. (e.g. 5600 W. etc.)
As noted in a previous post, odd numbers are on one side of the street, evens on the other.
All of this "Standard" is to facilitate Public services (fire, police, mail, etc ) being able to rapidly and easily locate you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Interestingly, the Standard also calls for Odd numbers to be assigned to North/South Hiways, Interstates, thoroughfares and even numbers to East west.
And lettered and numbered roads be assigned to Rural Roads.
Numbers to East/West roads with the south most road of a County being Road #1. And each next Northerly road being one digit greater. (i.e. 1, 2, 3, 4, etc.)
North/South Rural Roads to be A, thru ZZ (etc,) commencing at the most Westerly North/South road of the County.

bsloan1960 11-26-2022 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by NoMo50 (Post 2160834)
More mindless musings on a misty Saturday morning, but I guess inquiring minds just want to know. After pondering this existential topic, a single burning question simply won't slip out of my head: What if the Hokey Pokey really is what it's all about?

You should be allowed to be a group moderator. You could dramatically reduce the number of threads being posted by kind, friendly people who were not aware that their questions are mindless. After all- why should space here be wasted by text that doesn't line up exactly with your values and opinions?

Rwirish 11-26-2022 10:11 AM

The things we focus on.

justjim 11-26-2022 10:49 AM

Sometimes I wonder why I’m’ here at this point of my life reading all of this mind boggling BS. Surely there must be something better to do? Fore!

M2inOR 11-26-2022 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 2160866)
...Surely there must be something better to do? Fore!

We all can benefit from continuous learning. Asking and explaining improves the mind.

It's evident here that many ascribe to this.

As for golf, we read and write when it's dark outside, to engage the brain for a fruitful day.

richdell 11-26-2022 11:29 AM

Why do we park on a driveway and drive on a parkway?
:popcorn:


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