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saratogaman 11-29-2022 09:00 AM

Local hospital ratings decline
 
The ratings of two local hospitals (Villages & Leesburg) dropped from "B" to "C" -- according to a national rating group (Leapfrog Hospital Safety Grade). Infections and staffing issues were cited.
Nearby Ocala Hospital and West Marion Community Hospital maintained their "A" ratings.
(Source: Search Results)

tophcfa 11-29-2022 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by saratogaman (Post 2161668)
The ratings of two local hospitals (Villages & Leesburg) dropped from "B" to "C" -- according to a national rating group (Leapfrog Hospital Safety Grade). Infections and staffing issues were cited.
Nearby Ocala Hospital and West Marion Community Hospital maintained their "A" ratings.
(Source: Search Results)

The Villages hospital got a C rating, that seems overly generous. Take the lowest possible rating and then go a couple notches below that and you got a more appropriate rating.

ThirdOfFive 11-29-2022 10:00 AM

[QUOTE=saratogaman;2161668][[COLOR="Red"][SIZE="4"][B]The ratings of two local hospitals (Villages & Leesburg) dropped from "B" to "C"

In other breaking news, the sun came up this morning...

Michael G. 11-29-2022 11:06 AM

West Marion Hospital is the ONLY one I will go to.
My wife just was there for a week, and it was great experience for her.
Clean rooms, helpful medical staff, the state's greatest doctors.

It's our secret, just don't tell anyone.

Stu from NYC 11-29-2022 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by saratogaman (Post 2161668)
The ratings of two local hospitals (Villages & Leesburg) dropped from "B" to "C" -- according to a national rating group (Leapfrog Hospital Safety Grade). Infections and staffing issues were cited.
Nearby Ocala Hospital and West Marion Community Hospital maintained their "A" ratings.
(Source: Search Results)

Sad hoped that UF would know how to fix the village hospital

Djean1981 11-29-2022 07:05 PM

Thanks for posting this..

manaboutown 11-29-2022 07:54 PM

Why am I not surprised?

Pairadocs 11-29-2022 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2161871)
Sad hoped that UF would know how to fix the village hospital

I'm sure hundreds, actually probably thousands, of us share your feelings... how sad our area is not THE standard for top medical and hospital care.

kkingston57 11-29-2022 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pairadocs (Post 2161923)
I'm sure hundreds, actually probably thousands, of us share your feelings... how sad our area is not THE standard for top medical and hospital care.

Not enough worker bees in and around TV. Developer keeps expanding 55+ Villages. Where are the young/younger workers going to live?

tophcfa 11-29-2022 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pairadocs (Post 2161923)
I'm sure hundreds, actually probably thousands, of us share your feelings... how sad our area is not THE standard for top medical and hospital care.

What’s really sad is it’s the polar opposite.

blueash 11-29-2022 11:24 PM

This score is produced by an organization whose primary interest is patient safety and outcome. Looking at their data the biggest point loss was because they do NOT have intensive care specialists managing, or available, for their ICU patients. So you are admitted to an ICU in both The Villages and Leesburg and you have inadequately trained doctors in those units.
Somehow other hospitals in the larger area have managed to hire intensivists to provide care for their sickest and most vulnerable patients.

Garywt 11-29-2022 11:25 PM

When was the Villages hospital ever a B. Another rating system has it listed as a 1 with a 5 being the highest. It was a 1 before being bought and remained a 1 after a couple years with the new owner. Disappointing for sure.

kidnerkim 11-30-2022 05:39 AM

Amen!

Sabella 11-30-2022 06:12 AM

No improvement over the past years-the villages hospital needs to be investigated by medical authorities and I’m sure after an investigation they should close the place down. I speak from experience in the ER in August.

La lamy 11-30-2022 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Garywt (Post 2161944)
When was the Villages hospital ever a B. Another rating system has it listed as a 1 with a 5 being the highest. It was a 1 before being bought and remained a 1 after a couple years with the new owner. Disappointing for sure.

My thought exactly. Sure is a great motivation to stay as healthy as possible. :pray:

mlmarr 11-30-2022 06:46 AM

live is the biggest issues.. and schooling/learn medical .. when so many young people are stilling living in the basement waiting for the next hand out.. My husband was in the Villages hospital in July, with short staff, he had good care .. it's not a resort for the demanding, it's in and out.. hospital is too small for the area, new one being built in the suburbs/south of 44 ..

MandoMan 11-30-2022 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by saratogaman (Post 2161668)
The ratings of two local hospitals (Villages & Leesburg) dropped from "B" to "C" -- according to a national rating group (Leapfrog Hospital Safety Grade). Infections and staffing issues were cited.
Nearby Ocala Hospital and West Marion Community Hospital maintained their "A" ratings.
(Source: Search Results)

I recommend Advent Health/Waterman, in Taveres, on 441. It’s more of a drive, but A rating and very nice,

JGibson 11-30-2022 07:01 AM

The only thing that will fix this is pressure from state and local government.

Stu from NYC 11-30-2022 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JGibson (Post 2161978)
The only thing that will fix this is pressure from state and local government. But by all means keep punching that keyboard

Wish the developer would push higher standards for the village hospital but guess it is not necessary to keep selling more homes. After all he is the one with the clout

coconutmama 11-30-2022 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2161756)
West Marion Hospital is the ONLY one I will go to.
My wife just was there for a week, and it was great experience for her.
Clean rooms, helpful medical staff, the state's greatest doctors.

It's our secret, just don't tell anyone.

And the food is actually good!

cynjim 11-30-2022 07:43 AM

Question....what if you have a good say heart doctor and have to go to the hospital for a procedure but he his your doctor is it ok to go to the villages hospital as long as in his care?

coconutmama 11-30-2022 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saratogaman (Post 2161668)
The ratings of two local hospitals (Villages & Leesburg) dropped from "B" to "C" -- according to a national rating group (Leapfrog Hospital Safety Grade). Infections and staffing issues were cited.
Nearby Ocala Hospital and West Marion Community Hospital maintained their "A" ratings.
(Source: Search Results)

Thanks for posting. No excuse for infections, staff shortages or not

MidWestIA 11-30-2022 07:46 AM

rate
 
Geez UF Health Shands Hospital got a C at least AdventHealth Waterman got a B
Looking where I lived up north all C little B - I think the rating is unrealistic

Heytubes 11-30-2022 07:54 AM

I agree The Villages and Leesburg gave me excellent care. Unfortunately, short staffed.

Sandy and Ed 11-30-2022 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by cynjim (Post 2161994)
Question....what if you have a good say heart doctor and have to go to the hospital for a procedure but he his your doctor is it ok to go to the villages hospital as long as in his care?

What if a doctor/surgeon is greatly skilled but has to rely on substandard clinical support staff or on the crappy conditions in a facility? I guess you have to marry the best of each facet of care. My mother died after an excellent procedure only to succumb to poor post operative monitoring and care in a Philadelphia hospital. Nursing care was laissez-faire at best.

eeroger 11-30-2022 08:09 AM

Hospital
 
[QUOTE=saratogaman;2161668]The ratings of two local hospitals (Villages & Leesburg) dropped from "B" to "C" -- according to a national rating group (Leapfrog Hospital Safety Grade). Infections and staffing issues were cited.
Nearby Ocala Hospital and West Marion Community Hospital maintained their "A" ratings.
(Source: Search Results)[

Don't forget we DON'T have Certified ER docs manning both Emergency Depts. My PC doc said for him to get hospital privileges he would have to do shifts in the ER. He declined - said I am not qualified to be an ER doc. UF health rep confirmed the lack of certified ER docs at one of the question/answer mtgs.

asianthree 11-30-2022 08:09 AM

Multiple states, multiple hospitals in my system available as a traveler. Extreme top pay for all positions.

Why they all Need Staff, working short staffed for over 3 years. Many health care workers were not given a choice during Covid, their department’s shuttered, for close to 2 years. Many just retired if they could, like I did (then returned to different areas. But only a small amount of certain staff was retained, causing long hours, and care went south. Those who worked burned out, because hospitals choose to furlough too high of a percentage to save money.

ED department ‘s are the most abused, filled with too many who should have gone to urgent care.

Most Hospitals have always had some “B”, “C” ratings for many years, but leapfrog is not a score to worry about. Lack of staff is a major concern, but it will take years to fix. UF new build will be a teaching hospital, with residents and students abound. Then you will be seen by no less than 10 eager new to the field fresh faces every day

bark4me 11-30-2022 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Pairadocs (Post 2161923)
I'm sure hundreds, actually probably thousands, of us share your feelings... how sad our area is not THE standard for top medical and hospital care.

You would think TV would fix the hospital they have now before building a new one in the south end. Gonna be another money pit with poor health care.

jrandall 11-30-2022 08:35 AM

Advent Ocala is Great Too
 
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My husband just had a procedure at Advent Ocala Hospital on Monday. It was clean and the staff was effective, kind, and efficient.



QUOTE=Michael G.;2161756]West Marion Hospital is the ONLY one I will go to.
My wife just was there for a week, and it was great experience for her.
Clean rooms, helpful medical staff, the state's greatest doctors.

It's our secret, just don't tell anyone.[/QUOTE]

blueash 11-30-2022 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Garywt (Post 2161944)
When was the Villages hospital ever a B. Another rating system has it listed as a 1 with a 5 being the highest. It was a 1 before being bought and remained a 1 after a couple years with the new owner. Disappointing for sure.

The OP provided you a link to look at the information. This company, Leapfrog, using its metrics gave the Villages a B in the Spring 2022 rating. It is not hard to find. There are other agencies that also rate hospitals using different criteria. CMS uses a 1 to 5 scale
Medicare.gov

Despite all the glowing comments posted on TOTV by patients who say that while the ER is a disaster once you are admitted the care is wonderful... the CMS survey of patients done after discharge shows a very low satisfaction score and that fewer than half those surveyed would recommend the hospital to others.

BostonRich 11-30-2022 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 2162028)
The OP provided you a link to look at the information. This company, Leapfrog, using its metrics gave the Villages a B in the Spring 2022 rating. It is not hard to find. There are other agencies that also rate hospitals using different criteria. CMS uses a 1 to 5 scale
Medicare.gov

Despite all the glowing comments posted on TOTV by patients who say that while the ER is a disaster once you are admitted the care is wonderful... the CMS survey of patients done after discharge shows a very low satisfaction score and that fewer than half those surveyed would recommend the hospital to others.

I basically agree with the statement about the ER vs. after admittance. We found that to be true. But there never seems to be beds available and my wife spent the night on a gurney in a hallway before being brought in for urgent surgery. It was kind of a third-world-country experience. That is not going to get a satisfactory score from most people. The surgery was excellent I must add.

pauld315 11-30-2022 09:33 AM

I think a C is better than what they used to be a few years ago. I remember a couple of years ago. before UF, that these 2 hospitals would not even fill out the evaluation paperwork to be rated,

patlerro 11-30-2022 09:38 AM

Great care
 
Did take 12 hours to be placed in a room. However had great care during surgery and one week in the hospital and three weeks post-op as an outpatient. While many place blame on staff and MDs, I would look at the demographics of TV population: majority of population is older and many geriatric. Most younger doctors seek a broad demographics of young to older population. Additionally adequate staffing is handicapped due to the huge growth of the TV population.

Villages Kahuna 11-30-2022 09:57 AM

You’ve Got That Right
 
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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2161709)
The Villages hospital got a C rating, that seems overly generous. Take the lowest possible rating and then go a couple notches below that and you got a more appropriate rating.

That’s been my experience. I had a local doctor tell me that if I somehow woke up and found myself in The Villages Regional Hospital, call a taxi and get out of there. He said it’s more than just long waits and poor service, that the medical care there could kill you!

That was my experience recently. My doctor ordered a simple injection of a drug I needed. I thought, “how could they screw that up?” But they did. After waiting 14 hours I found that they had entered the wrong order in ER admissions.

DON’T GO TO THE VILLAGES REGIONAL HOSPITAL!

Boston1945 11-30-2022 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MandoMan (Post 2161974)
I recommend Advent Health/Waterman, in Taveres, on 441. It’s more of a drive, but A rating and very nice,

No thank you. I refer the Waterman hospital as the Waterman Inn. I spent seven days and each and every day someone from the billing dept came to my room and asked how I would pay for my out-of-pocket part of the bill. SAY WHAT?? Now, this was a few years back.

mjdollard 11-30-2022 12:59 PM

Hospitals
 
First, Leapfrog is an unofficial rating site, they don't look onsite but only post based on what they get as a response to surveys - and even then, any response is voluntary.

Their scores don't make sense, out of 6 categories Orlando Health had 2 reds, a yellow and 3 greens and was rated .839 (lower the better) for an A. Waterman had 3 reds, 3 greens and was rated .605 for a B. A better score but a worse rating? The Villages had 2 reds and 4 greens, The 2 reds were for MRSA and C Diff. 42% of the population walks around with MRSA so any patient probably walked in with it, same for C diff. Orlando Health was dinged for infections after surgery and UTI (both are patient care items) and still got an A. West Marion got dinged for post op infections (patient care items) but got an A. Like I said, the scores don't make sense.

The biggest problem at TVH? It is too small, it has been expanded twice and really have no place to expand more, UF's starting over with a new, larger, hospital is the best answer.

joelfmi 12-03-2022 04:13 PM

There more to very good amenities in a 55 community which a senior will need badly
 
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Originally Posted by mlmarr (Post 2161971)
live is the biggest issues.. and schooling/learn medical .. when so many young people are stilling living in the basement waiting for the next hand out.. My husband was in the Villages hospital in July, with short staff, he had good care .. it's not a resort for the demanding, it's in and out.. hospital is too small for the area, new one being built in the suburbs/south of 44 ..

The seniors need good clean up to date hospitals, well trained doctors and nurses and caring trained employees, community travel to get to medical facilities, better health care providers. Concentrate on this problem and the rest will follow

justjim 12-03-2022 06:06 PM

When UF took over TVRH and LRMC much was expected but little delivered. 135,000 plus residents are still waiting for some solid improvements to these two hospitals. Perhaps the new Village of Middleton will help attract more medical personnel to this area. I think we have found there is no “quick fix” to this issue.

Happydaz 12-04-2022 07:05 AM

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LuvNH 12-04-2022 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by joelfmi (Post 2163110)
The seniors need good clean up to date hospitals, well trained doctors and nurses and caring trained employees, community travel to get to medical facilities, better health care providers. Concentrate on this problem and the rest will follow

Agree 100%, but where are you going to get good, young, experienced nursing staff and doctors to come here to a retirement community where much of the need is geriatric.

I have had surgery in the hospital, my doctor has come down here from the Beth Israel in NJ, or maybe NY. She says the hardest thing is to find experienced support staff for her practice and for her surgical needs. I had a primary care doctor who had moved here from Boston Mass General and he openly told me he was fed up with working in a major hospital with all the rules and regulations, that he was going to practice in TV for about 10 yrs to get his two children through college in Boston and then he was done.

It is what it is. The pay is too low to get good staff, the summer heat is too high, housing is expensive and there is basically very little for young professionals to do in the vicinity of TV.


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