The End Of Snow
 

Here we go again. Experts keep forecasting global warming -- and the end of snow -- but instead it's just the opposite. Have you noticed that the Weather Channel never talks about climate change when talking about snow storms? But, it is talked about here ... The Villages Weather Club

Well you can they can have all the snow that's falling on UK at the moment, any time you like.
Bl**dy freezing here!

Of course. Remember who pays "the experts" and what they are paid to say.

I wonder how much they paid the kangaroos to bounce in the snow ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO0t66V41OY

The only snow I want to see is on Christmas cards.

It’s an inconvenient truth Australia is a continent the smallest. Having been there several times avoid their winter our summer. The video was tagged 3 months ago the end of the southern hemisphere winter.

Ooo! Love a good conspiracy theory.

It's more than just a regular winter ... Australia saw its coldest spring in decades and wettest on record for some regions - ABC News ... just like what's happening in the western U.S. But, it's not officially winter here yet. Maybe it'll get hot again, but in the meantime CO2 is not living up to its claims of -- the end of snow.

Why do you think the Aussies named the mountains, The Snowy Mountains.
Snow is nothing new down under.
My brother lives in NSW and the rainfall amounts this last year have been horrendous, plus bush fires in the summer months have got worse over last few years..

Coldest spring in decades but not 7 years in a row.

Here's some BOM data.

John Coleman
 

Go on line and look up weather forecaster extraordinaire, John Coleman. He debunks man-made climate change using science. Here’s one video. There are others where he gets even more scientific.

https://youtu.be/RirQpfQUqX4

Exactly right. John Coleman was a terrific guy, a smart meteorologist and smart businessman. He used to go around the country giving talks after he sold the Channel -- to a entity which progressively took the Channel downhill with respect to echoing climate alarmism. And now the Channel further dumbs-down the public with truck driving and home building fillers. New examples of Weather Channel misinformation will be discussed at tomorrow's Weather Club presentation, Dec 15 at 1:30 PM at Laurel Manor.

Check out Weatherwarfare ... ever heard of control??..

We just hit 100" here in Vail! Come on out, the snow is fine!!!

Why are the glaciers melting?

I doubt this global warming nonsense is a planned conspiracy, I think it is more a case of not letting a widespread narrative go to waste for whatever agenda is being driven, which then grows by its own inertia.

Look at it this way----you just finished your post-doctoral work in climatology with $300,000 in debt and have a provisional faculty appointment at a major university and want to continue your research with a government grant and publish papers to continue your career.

In the current environment, what do you think your chances of getting a federal grant are when your research premise is anthropogenic climate change is a myth????
Your chances of getting tenure???
Your chances of having publications accepted????

Basically, unless you have tremendous courage of convictions and are willing to risk poverty, unemployment and professional ridicule, you end up touting the party line of "man-made global warming" while biting your tongue.

And this is why 90% of "climate change experts" "believe" in global warming caused by human activity, even though the vast majority know better. Only the mavericks, independently wealthy and recently retired will tell us the truth

Global warming. Why do glaciers grow? Global cooling. How often do either occur? Dozens of times, cyclically, over the past 4 million years.

Impact human activity has had on this so far??? ABSOLUTELY ZERO.

I have not seen any facts presented by the conspiracy minded posters. Just cherry picked data.

Huh??????

How's this for a "fact" to start:

20,000 years ago NY City was covered in 2 miles of ice
Now the nearest ice pack is Greenland
Is this fact due to the internal combustion engine??????

Sure thing. In fact, that is generally the subject the Weather Club's February 16 talk ... The Villages Weather Club . This talk will include the famous D-Day weather forecast and other subjects such as HARP, Chemtrails, and much more.

It is all about the money. Makes lots of friends very rich.

Glaciers have been melting, and growing, and melting and growing for millions of years. That's normal. Currently some are melting and some are growing. What really is at issue is ... how much has "man-made" CO2 altered earth's temperature last year? In the meantime, here is why the doomsday glacier is melting ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raR5YgFcIQQ

Check some legitimate climate experts. Climate Change means that global weather patterns are changing significantly. There will be and has been more severe storms - all types of storms. "Global Warming" doesn't mean we won't see snow again in our lifetime.

We are made wise not by the recollection of our past, but by the responsibility for our future.

Here's one of many experts -- snow is no more.

I miss the snow. When I lived up north, I prayed for snow. All winter long .....
When snow was forecasted, if it wasn't more than a foot of snow, I was disappointed. I considered that just a "dusting". Give me three or four feet of snow in one snowfall, and I'm a happy camper.
It's the salty, sandy slush after the melting begins that's a PITA.

True---can anyone spell "Solyndra"?????

And BTW, the ice caps did not melt away in 2010

Agree. Now, since we are leaving the sphere of scientific fact and entering the world of prediction, who has the best crystal ball? The one backed by 4 million years of precedent or the one with 50-100 years of manipulated data to fulfill an agenda?

I see there are some posters here who continually trumpet the false narrative that Climate Change is a hoax like their buddy Donald Trump and other climate-change deniers. Myself and others have pointed them to those who are expert and organizations which specialize in the science of climate change and yet they continually look for exceptions that suggest they are right and those who have studied the environment and the science about how it functions are wrong.

They say those who claim Climate Change is happening have an agenda. Well, I'd like to know what their motive is?

If anyone has a motive to deny it, it's those who are causing it: the fossil fuel industry. Why? Because it's going to affect their bottom line and in essence end their obscene profits. Tell me, what motive does a scientist have in maintaining the narrative of Climate Change? Do they stand to make more money from it? Are they getting paid by corporate entities and foundations supported by the fossil fuel industry which does pay scientists to lie about climate change?

No, they have no motive. They aren't getting paid. They are simply telling the truth.

But no matter what we tell these deniers, they insist on ignoring it. Why? Because they refuse to accept the world is changing. But that is life; it is constantly changing and evolving. Just look at human society today. I'm not saying it's better or worse, but can you imagine same sex marriages 50 years ago?

Climate Change is happening, worldwide -- by the way, the anomaly sometimes mentioned about Greenland in the Middle Ages was region specific and not global.

Here's a few more of the anthropogenic (human-caused) climate change denying rebuttals:

1. It's caused by changes in heat from the sun -- debunked, the sun is actually giving off less heat; in turn, they then say an Ice Age is approaching

2.There have been periods when the earth's atmosphere was hotter -- yes, but they occurred after some catastrophic event like the earth colliding with an asteroid, like the one that killed off the dinosaurs

3. CO2 does not create heat -- yes, but it seals it in the atmosphere, which is its Green House Effect (GHE)

4. The Antarctic icecap is growing -- yes, but that's a superficial effect of the warming that is increasing a thin layer of snow but the actual truth is that it's melting the eons old icebergs.

5. Weather is variable and there always have been extreme weather events -- yes, but the extreme weather events have begun to show a pattern of increasing intensity because of the increased moisture caused by the warming, especially in the oceans. For instance, while the number of hurricanes has not increased, their intensity and the damage they cause has increased because of the increased moisture caused by the warming.

6. While the earth does undergo changes, never in geological history (except for catastrophic events like an asteroid hitting the earth) has the warming increased so fast as it has since the advent of the Industrial Revolution, and the pace of this warming has become even faster in recent years. Why do you think the following has been occurring:

A. Record breaking high temperatures in Siberia
B. The melting of the icebergs at the poles and the melting of the permafrost in Greenland and Siberia
C. Global outbreaks of wild forest fires
D. Global drying up of massive lakes
E. Rising sea levels, especially in the southern hemisphere
F. Displacement of wildlife and disruption of their living patterns, causing many extinctions
G. Because of these changes to the ecosystem, some believe it's causing greater susceptibility to pandemics.

Go to NASA, the NOAA websites. See what the scientists are saying. Watch the weather channel. Watch some videos online showing how the rising sea levels are causing poor people in the southern hemisphere to migrate, that show the melting icebergs and permafrost, that show the now navigable Arctic Ocean and decreasing habitat of the polar bears. There are plenty of videos online showing this.

Motive???? Really, that's a softball question if ever I heard one-----M-O-N-E-Y

But they ARE getting paid---in federal grants, tenured professorships and notoriety---I'll reiterate:
Look at it this way----you just finished your post-doctoral work in climatology with $300,000 in debt and have a provisional faculty appointment at a major university and want to continue your research with a government grant and publish papers to continue your career.

In the current environment, what do you think your chances of getting a federal grant are when your research premise is anthropogenic climate change is a myth????
Your chances of getting tenure???
Your chances of having publications accepted????

Basically, unless you have tremendous courage of convictions and are willing to risk poverty, unemployment and professional ridicule, you end up touting the party line of "man-made global warming" while biting your tongue.

And this is why 90% of "climate change experts" "believe" in global warming caused by human activity, even though the vast majority know better. Only the mavericks, independently wealthy and recently retired will tell us the truth

And yes, climate change is happening worldwide, and has been for many millions of years. That time frame alone tells us that human activity has nothing to do with it.

This is all amazing. What is even more amazing is that no one is able to say how much "man-made" CO2 warmed earth's temperature last year. Until that is defined (called data) -- all the above is completely natural. For more information ... The Villages Weather Club

"Only the mavericks, independently wealthy and recently retired will tell us the truth." How so very true. And this why tyrannical governments like to get rid of the scholars during takeovers.

The people that are spouting off about it are just trying to make easy millions of dollars off of this hoax. These people take us as stupid & they’re just little gods. They would have to get every country to go along with this BS. Or convince us dumb Americans that they paid off MOTHER NATURE! Just like everything else these people do without listening to us dumb Americans, they continue to tell us there is global warming & we’ll just sit back & keep complaining! If you want to be heard Email the White House but all you’ll get in return is a Robo Measage, I know because I got the same exact Robo message every time I tried to get some intelligent message.

Great concept for a conspiracy movie. Who will play Jason Bourne's scientist brother?

So, after I EXPLICITLY stated I doubt it was a planned conspiracy, we get this.

I'd really like to see data on how many government grants were handed out to climatologists who are so-called "climate change deniers" (since January 2021)

Ditto. Under the prior Admin, I actually got a personalized email response addressing the specific issue I mentioned. How nice.

Guess we will have to agree to disagree.
Roughly 8 billion human beings with all their machines and factories and destruction of land and sea habitats could not help but have a negative impact on the planet.
Sorry, but "ABSOLUTELY ZERO" is the wrong answer.

Sorry, but even "8 billion human beings with all their machines and factories " may not have an impact-----it may, but then again it may not. We simply haven't allowed enough time to pass to find out. So far, there is no right or wrong answer to the future. As far as climate change to date goes, the correct answer remains ABSOLUTELY ZERO HUMAN IMPACT.

Remember, CO2 is not a pollutant, trash is. That is the difference. Trash mountains are pollution to the environment. CO2 is plant food -- and more is better. Humans have no measurable affect on climate change, unless you can provide that data. For more information ... The Villages Weather Club