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Laker14 12-14-2022 04:27 PM

Gas for the Golf Cart
 
I have always purchased my golf cart gas at the Villages Golf Carts pumps in Sumter. I went there today and the pumps were out of order. No information was available as to when they might be back in service.

Are there any other pumps around that have ethanol-free gas?

tophcfa 12-14-2022 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2166437)
I have always purchased my golf cart gas at the Villages Golf Carts pumps in Sumter. I went there today and the pumps were out of order. No information was available as to when they might be back in service.

Are there any other pumps around that have ethanol-free gas?

Go to the Villages Golf Cart store in Spanish Springs, they have ethanol free pumps there as well. Another option is to go through the gate in the historic section that requires use of your gate card. On the other side of the gate you can drive your golf cart to several places including Lowel’s, Walmart, and WaWa. WaWa has ethanol free gas pumps. When I go to WaWa to fill up the cart I also fill up a couple two gallon gas cans which fit snugly in the basket in the cart. The gas at WaWa is also much cheaper than from the Villages Golf Cart pumps.

Good luck : )

Taltarzac725 12-14-2022 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2166437)
I have always purchased my golf cart gas at the Villages Golf Carts pumps in Sumter. I went there today and the pumps were out of order. No information was available as to when they might be back in service.

Are there any other pumps around that have ethanol-free gas?

Check Gas Buddy. That site should also show if the gas station is open and has gas.

ThirdOfFive 12-14-2022 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2166437)
I have always purchased my golf cart gas at the Villages Golf Carts pumps in Sumter. I went there today and the pumps were out of order. No information was available as to when they might be back in service.

Are there any other pumps around that have ethanol-free gas?

Was it during the power outage (say, 1:00 pm to 1:45 pm or so)?

villagetinker 12-14-2022 06:45 PM

OP, you are throwing your money away, look at your owners manual, most if not all state E10 gas for these. I have been using this gas (aka regular) in our 2017 Yamaha EFI cart since we bought it with no problems. Probably saved a couple of hundred dollars.

Rango 12-14-2022 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2166463)
OP, you are throwing your money away, look at your owners manual, most if not all state E10 gas for these. I have been using this gas (aka regular) in our 2017 Yamaha EFI cart since we bought it with no problems. Probably saved a couple of hundred dollars.

Ditto

DonH57 12-14-2022 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2166463)
OP, you are throwing your money away, look at your owners manual, most if not all state E10 gas for these. I have been using this gas (aka regular) in our 2017 Yamaha EFI cart since we bought it with no problems. Probably saved a couple of hundred dollars.

Same here. I've only used regular gasoline in both our 2013 EFI carts. We were told that's all you need as they are low compression engines. I do occasionally put 2 ounces of fuel injector cleaner in the tank, clean and check the spark plug gap.:agree:

Laker14 12-14-2022 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2166455)
Was it during the power outage (say, 1:00 pm to 1:45 pm or so)?

probably. I wasn't paying close attention to the time, but all of the mechanics at the garage were sitting outside doing nothing, so it would make some sense that they were without power.

tophcfa 12-15-2022 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2166463)
OP, you are throwing your money away, look at your owners manual, most if not all state E10 gas for these. I have been using this gas (aka regular) in our 2017 Yamaha EFI cart since we bought it with no problems. Probably saved a couple of hundred dollars.

I would agree with that if you are a full time resident and your cart never sits without being used for extended periods of time. However, if your cart goes for extended periods of time without use, trying to save a few bucks on E10 gas can wind up costing you some significant money, time, and aggravation if it gums up your fuel delivery system. Plus, ethanol free gas burns better and gets you a little bit higher MPG. I can’t remember how many carburetors in seasonal use small engines I have had to disassemble, clean out, and rebuild over the years because of gas containing ethanol.

Chamo 12-15-2022 04:29 AM

Exactly ethanol free gas you would put in vehicle engines like boats. Don’t waste your money on that fuel regular gas and once in a while put some high test you’re good to go.

CCristella 12-15-2022 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2166437)
I have alway purchased my golf cart gas at the Villages Golf Carts pumps in Sumter. I went there today and the pumps were out of order. No information was available as to when they might be back in service.

Are there any other pumps around that have ethanol-free


gas?

Circle K

jamorela 12-15-2022 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2166437)
I have always purchased my golf cart gas at the Villages Golf Carts pumps in Sumter. I went there today and the pumps were out of order. No information was available as to when they might be back in service.

Are there any other pumps around that have ethanol-free gas?

7-11 in Colony

Dan Williams 12-15-2022 06:03 AM

Regular fuel has ethanol which will let the cart run but it will eat the fuel line and let it become blocked

banjobob 12-15-2022 06:18 AM

That must pertain to certain carts mine runs on regular pump with ethanol, and has for years with no side effects.

banjobob 12-15-2022 06:20 AM

A simple occasional added fuel injector cleaner will clean it perfectly,

Laker14 12-15-2022 07:17 AM

there are numerous threads on the subject of ethanol-free, vs. ethanol gas, and while I appreciate everyone's opinion, for reasons of my own, I have decided that in my cart I will use ethanol free if I can find it. I won't lose sleep over a tank of ethanol gas in my cart, but I prefer to run ethanol-free.

I'm going to try the Sumter station again today and see if it was just a brief shut-down due to the power failure.

Thanks for the information.

tophcfa 12-15-2022 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by banjobob (Post 2166517)
A simple occasional added fuel injector cleaner will clean it perfectly,

That will work with an EFI, but not so well with a older carburetor engine. However, weather you use fuel injector cleaner or a fuel stabilizer with E10, neither is as good as simply using ethanol free gas. To those who insist on using E10 gas that are not full timers, you never have a problem right up until when you do. It’s cheap insurance for the piece of mind of knowing when you show up at your villages home after an extended absence, your golf cart will run without issues (assuming your battery is adequately charged).

midiwiz 12-15-2022 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2166463)
OP, you are throwing your money away, look at your owners manual, most if not all state E10 gas for these. I have been using this gas (aka regular) in our 2017 Yamaha EFI cart since we bought it with no problems. Probably saved a couple of hundred dollars.

absoutely! and also if you use 89 vs 87 the smell will go away

snsaneholtz@gmail.com 12-15-2022 07:31 AM

Ethonel free gas
 
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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2166437)
I have always purchased my golf cart gas at the Villages Golf Carts pumps in Sumter. I went there today and the pumps were out of order. No information was available as to when they might be back in service.

Are there any other pumps around that have ethanol-free gas?

Both Circle K stations at Rohan and Pinellas has gas for carts

NoMo50 12-15-2022 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan Williams (Post 2166513)
Regular fuel has ethanol which will let the cart run but it will eat the fuel line and let it become blocked

No, it won't do that. In the early days of ethanol blend fuel, there were issues with degradation of some rubber compounds, primarily in marine applications. This was typically seen in boats that sat for long periods of time, with the ethanol fuel being in static contact with rubber components not designed for it.

Nowadays, virtually every vehicle manufacturer designs engines to be operated with ethanol blended fuel, including Yamaha golf carts. The Yamaha owner's manual clearly states it is acceptable to use regular grade ethanol fuel. That said, if I had an older, carbuerated cart that sat for long periods of time, I would use ethanol-free just to be safe. If running a newer EFI cart, regular fuel is fine.

RICH1 12-15-2022 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2166498)
I would agree with that if you are a full time resident and your cart never sits without being used for extended periods of time. However, if your cart goes for extended periods of time without use, trying to save a few bucks on E10 gas can wind up costing you some significant money, time, and aggravation if it gums up your fuel delivery system. Plus, ethanol free gas burns better and gets you a little bit higher MPG. I can’t remember how many carburetors in seasonal use small engines I have had to disassemble, clean out, and rebuild over the years because of gas containing ethanol.

What is this thing you call Carburetor? OP The fuel injection system and lines are made for diluted ethanol gasoline… this is 2022

Catalina36 12-15-2022 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2166498)
I would agree with that if you are a full time resident and your cart never sits without being used for extended periods of time. However, if your cart goes for extended periods of time without use, trying to save a few bucks on E10 gas can wind up costing you some significant money, time, and aggravation if it gums up your fuel delivery system. Plus, ethanol free gas burns better and gets you a little bit higher MPG. I can’t remember how many carburetors in seasonal use small engines I have had to disassemble, clean out, and rebuild over the years because of gas containing ethanol.

When I leave the villages for any extended time I use "TRU-FUEL" purchased at Ace Hardware, Home Depot or Lowes. A Engineered fuel ethenol free. Last for 2 years as per the manufacturer. I also use it in my small Honda outboard up north runs great.

JMintzer 12-15-2022 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2166537)
That will work with an EFI, but not so well with a older carburetor engine. However, weather you use fuel injector cleaner or a fuel stabilizer with E10, neither is as good as simply using ethanol free gas. To those who insist on using E10 gas that are not full timers, you never have a problem right up until when you do. It’s cheap insurance for the piece of mind of knowing when you show up at your villages home after an extended absence, your golf cart will run without issues (assuming your battery is adequately charged).

Yup. Since we're not yet "Frogs", I try to by the Rec Gas... Plus, I always add a bit of Sta-Bil to my tank when I'm away... So far, so good...

MX rider 12-15-2022 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by NoMo50 (Post 2166546)
No, it won't do that. In the early days of ethanol blend fuel, there were issues with degradation of some rubber compounds, primarily in marine applications. This was typically seen in boats that sat for long periods of time, with the ethanol fuel being in static contact with rubber components not designed for it.

Nowadays, virtually every vehicle manufacturer designs engines to be operated with ethanol blended fuel, including Yamaha golf carts. The Yamaha owner's manual clearly states it is acceptable to use regular grade ethanol fuel. That said, if I had an older, carbuerated cart that sat for long periods of time, I would use ethanol-free just to be safe. If running a newer EFI cart, regular fuel is fine.

100% correct.

I have 2 motocross bikes (Kawasaki and KTM), as I still love to ride and have for many years. One is 2021 fuel injected 4 stroke and the other is a 2019 2 stroke with a carb. I run normal pump gas in both, as I have in all my bikes over the years.

I've never had an issue with fuel, and they're both much more high tech than a Yamaha golf cart. And here in Indiana my bikes sit for months over the winter. I may start them once or twice over that period.
All modern engines are designed to use gas with ethanol. That's a fact!
It won't degrade the rubber as you accurately stated or cause any issues. Thats a myth!

No need to spend the extra money.

Notsocrates 12-15-2022 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2166463)
OP, you are throwing your money away, look at your owners manual, most if not all state E10 gas for these. I have been using this gas (aka regular) in our 2017 Yamaha EFI cart since we bought it with no problems. Probably saved a couple of hundred dollars.

Agree, with an exception. If the cart will be unused for a long time (+3 months), top it up with 1 or more ethanol-free petrol

OhioBuckeye 12-15-2022 09:45 AM

Don’t know but maybe one of the other golf cart dealers have some. Otherwise you’ll have to use what our administration has left, the gas that’s in our reserves until it all gone, then we’ll have to use what Russia & the other foreign countries are selling us. Don’t know what else to tell you unless you go EV.

tophcfa 12-15-2022 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MX rider (Post 2166575)
100% correct.

I have 2 motocross bikes (Kawasaki and KTM), as I still love to ride and have for many years. One is 2021 fuel injected 4 stroke and the other is a 2019 2 stroke with a carb. I run normal pump gas in both, as I have in all my bikes over the years.

I've never had an issue with fuel, and they're both much more high tech than a Yamaha golf cart. And here in Indiana my bikes sit for months over the winter. I may start them once or twice over that period.
All modern engines are designed to use gas with ethanol. That's a fact!
It won't degrade the rubber as you accurately stated or cause any issues. Thats a myth!

No need to spend the extra money.

I have had to rebuild the carburetor in my Kawasaki KLR650 twice in the spring after storing it for the winter with gas containing ethanol. For the last few years I started running the bike dry and then removed the carburetor bowl to completely drain it before storage. Since I started doing that there hasn’t been any issues.

mtdjed 12-15-2022 10:22 AM

So what is a modern cart? Mine was a Yesterday built in 2005 probably with a prior year engine. I use mid-grade gas (with Ethanol). Still runs today. Tomorrow???

Professor 12-15-2022 11:57 AM

7-11 over at Colony Plaza has Ethanol-Free gas. Use the Red handled pumps.

DARFAP 12-15-2022 12:42 PM

As of Tuesday, the Brownwood pumps were down to one side of one pump working. I have purchased eth-free at the former Marathon, now Circle K at Pinellas Plaza.

conman5652@aol.com 12-15-2022 01:38 PM

The higher octane in the gas makes less stain on the engine. Also remember it not a car engine. It’s a four cycle engine. U can get the tv gas at 7/11 in colony or gas station at pinellas

bilcon 12-15-2022 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2166437)
I have always purchased my golf cart gas at the Villages Golf Carts pumps in Sumter. I went there today and the pumps were out of order. No information was available as to when they might be back in service.

Are there any other pumps around that have ethanol-free gas?

The electric was out all day at Sumter Landing. No electric, no pumps!

DAVES 12-15-2022 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by banjobob (Post 2166516)
That must pertain to certain carts mine runs on regular pump with ethanol, and has for years with no side effects.

We have a 2011 Yamaha EFI, ten years old, the book says regular up to 10% ethanol. We've always used REGULAR GAS and it has been fine.

DAVES 12-15-2022 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2166533)
there are numerous threads on the subject of ethanol-free, vs. ethanol gas, and while I appreciate everyone's opinion, for reasons of my own, I have decided that in my cart I will use ethanol free if I can find it. I won't lose sleep over a tank of ethanol gas in my cart, but I prefer to run ethanol-free.

I'm going to try the Sumter station again today and see if it was just a brief shut-down due to the power failure.

Thanks for the information.

Like most of the posts, they are OPINION. CLAIMS such a better gas mileage. It is very unlikely that anyone can accurately measure gas mileage. Better wear, it s unlikely that anyone can properly measure comparative life.

Our golf cart is 11 years old. A Yamaha EFI always run on regular gas and it is fine.

NoMoSno 12-15-2022 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DAVES (Post 2166739)
We have a 2011 Yamaha EFI, ten years old, the book says regular up to 10% ethanol. We've always used REGULAR GAS and it has been fine.

Yamaha didn't release the EFI motor until the 2012.5 models as an option.
Starting in 2014 all were EFI, no option to get a carburated motor.

Keefelane66 12-15-2022 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by conman5652@aol.com (Post 2166705)
The higher octane in the gas makes less stain on the engine. Also remember it not a car engine. It’s a four cycle engine. U can get the tv gas at 7/11 in colony or gas station at pinellas

What do you think a car engine is a 4 cycle engine just like your golf cart with more cylinders

MX rider 12-15-2022 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by conman5652@aol.com (Post 2166705)
The higher octane in the gas makes less stain on the engine. Also remember it not a car engine. It’s a four cycle engine. U can get the tv gas at 7/11 in colony or gas station at pinellas

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2166631)
I have had to rebuild the carburetor in my Kawasaki KLR650 twice in the spring after storing it for the winter with gas containing ethanol. For the last few years I started running the bike dry and then removed the carburetor bowl to completely drain it before storage. Since I started doing that there hasn’t been any issues.

My brother is a Kawasaki/Polaris dealer here in SW Indiana. He owns numerous bikes and 2 side by sides. Runs regular gas like me and his bikes sit for months over the winter as well. Neither of us has had any fuel issues. Now as another poster said, if it's an older carb it could be an issue.

They also advise regular gas to their customers on all the brands he sells.

At the most, some fuel stabilzer for the winter can be an option, but I don't even do that.

Besides, if ethanol was a problem the oem's would recommend non ethanol for their products, but they don't.

tonycirocco@me.com 12-15-2022 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2166463)
OP, you are throwing your money away, look at your owners manual, most if not all state E10 gas for these. I have been using this gas (aka regular) in our 2017 Yamaha EFI cart since we bought it with no problems. Probably saved a couple of hundred dollars.

Me too. I have always used regular gas in three Yamahas, no problem.

Miboater 12-15-2022 10:09 PM

Actually the problems with older boats having issues with the E10 gas was not so much with the fuel lines but with boats that had fiberglass fuel tanks. The E10 would leach resins out of the fiberglass and create a gummy-like blobs that would get sucked up in the fuel lines and create havoc on the fuel system. I never had any issues as I had aluminum tanks but I knew two guys who had to have their fiberglass tanks replaced with aluminum and that was expensive!

Garywt 12-15-2022 10:35 PM

I put the same gas that goes in the car. In a pinch I have gone the Village Cart shop as in Spanish Springs it is the only gas around.


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