Natural gas stoves cause asthma
 

Who knew? 🤔 Could be banned in 2023 by Consumer Product Safety Commission. IMO, it’s the smoke that is reflected in mirrors that causes the most harm.

What's next Gas Dryers...

Another example of too much government. Ridiculous

bad air causes asthma to surface...
 

why don't you and your opinion post a link? or is this more B.S.?

It's for real...

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This was found in studies where some people were oblivious to the fact that you need to operate a vent fan at all times while using an indoor gas cooking appliance. Some people in the studies were even operating a gas range with no hood fan installed in their home, which is illegal. If you run your hood fan before you use your stove and let it run a little after, the asthma rates suddenly drop to close to zero.

Maybe "Misuse of Natural Gas appliances could cause asthma" would have been a better heading?

Bee-eye-en-gee-oh!

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When I use our natural gas appliances I always put on my foil hat. I heard this helps.

Did any of you who are so angry at the consumer protection agency gathering information, did any of you read the studies linking gas stoves with increase childhood asthma and lifetime asthma risk? Did any of you read the science? Do you think the Consumer Protection Agency should actually be involved in trying to protect consumers? Or is it all on the user to be up to date on how lead in the water or N02 in the air can impact children?

The commissioner going directly to banning gas stoves is over the top.

Requiring correct ventilation, as with gas furnaces, would mitigate the risk.

These studies are good, and the CPA has it's place.

The issue here is that they shouldn't ban something that can be safely operated by an average person. A few jurisdictions still don't require venting to the outdoors, maybe they should start with making that part mandatory, kind of how seatbelts are required on cars.

As clearly reported in the link, the commissioner is NOT going directly to banning gas stoves. Maybe read the story. It is one possibility if, and only if, the data requires such a move. I have read some of the meta analysis and some of the 80 references in that analysis. The conclusion that gas stoves are linked to increased respiratory illness is very strong. Older homes with older stoves are a higher risk. Ventilation makes a difference.
All that is being done here, despite the hang wringing and anti government blah blah blah above, is that the Consumer Protection Agency is going to look into the problem. Period. Their options are anything from doing nothing to banning gas stoves.

You are more than welcome to make that suggestion as this agency always has a public comment option available.

Here is a recall just issued for carbon monoxide risk for one brand of gas stoves sold at Home Depot, Lowes and Best Buy
ZLINE Recalls Gas Ranges Due to Serious Risk of Injury or Death from Carbon Monoxide Poisoning | CPSC.gov

Natural Gas Stoves cause Asthma
 

Natural gas stoves could be banned in 2023 by Consumer Product Safety Commission.

Next step?

Allergy-induced asthma, triggered by airborne substances, such as pollen, mold spores, cockroach waste, or particles of skin and dried saliva shed by pets (pet dander)

What's next, ban Mold, Trees, Cockroaches, and Pets?

This Commission controls products such a Suntan Products and it has been found after years of study that some people still get sunburn and cancer. Next step, ban the sun?

Where is the scientific support? A statement with no authoritative source is meaningless. Something you expect fro VN letters to editor

Really?

"We need to be talking about regulating gas stoves, whether that’s drastically improving emissions or banning gas stoves entirely,” said Commissioner Richard Trumka. “And I think we ought to keep that possibility of a ban in mind, because it’s a powerful tool in our tool belt and it’s a real possibility here.”

The commissioner should stick to identifying issues without threatening obtuse solutions.

Unrelated, not nitrogen dioxide...

My bet is those units shipped configured for propane and not NG.

That's a shock ! Can you imagine the 3, 4, and 5 star chefs of the world cooking on ELECTRIC stoves ? There is going to be some back lash. Probably as large as the back lash from pilots if/when they balk at flying those electric planes with the long, long extension cords !

Probably yes, based on my experience with the MAGNIFICENT idea of making washers one can NOT fill completely with water, and then beats and tears your clothes to shreds since they are barely moistened. Someone needs to (or maybe HAS) invented a washer with a kind of "dial" on it where you can adjust the water level to your personal liking... NOT "Maytag's" liking ! Ug !

lots of anti-change, judgmental, grumpy old men on this thread. . .

Looks like the current building codes require venting gas stoves to the outside and providing make up air directly into the kitchen at higher level of ventilation.

Range Hood Vent Code (2023 Requirements) - Home Inspector Secrets

Also vent hood fans turn on automaticly once they detect heat from cooking.

This should mitigate the risk at least for new construction.

There are washers that allow you to set the water level and/or manually add water before starting a cycle.

Is this covering the 'Vent-less gas heaters' ?
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I tried to post a link to the product in question ...

lowes.com/pl/Vent-free--Gas-space-heaters-Gas-heaters-Portable-space-heaters-Heating-cooling/4294765334?refinement=4294749887

You mean realists don’t you?

Read Florida state building regulations chapter 5 section 501.8 , residential ranges not required to be vented to the outside.

Not unrelated. It is a perfectly related example of the Consumer Product Safety Commission acting to... wait for it.... protect the consumer from a safety hazard. And it is especially germane as it relates to gas ovens.

You would also lose your bet as to whether these stoves use natural gas.

I totally agree and why do these "agencies" have so much power. Should be only legislative although even that is becoming scary based on the craziness of California. Common sense has gone.

Ufb bs.

What's next? How about gas powered golf carts?:boom:

Always check to see who paid for and did the research. Ask yourself if they have an agenda or stand to gain from the research. This study was conducted by RMI, an environmental think tank.

Next?
Methane?
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I think we can count on it ! The WAR is on natural gas, so what else but ban such appliances. One day we'll be overcome with what we are going to do with all the batteries from lawn mowers, hand tools, weed "eater" trimmers, automobiles..... what about the "war" on petroleum based plastic grocery bags ? Then there was the "war" on paper grocery bags, choose a plastic bag-save a tree campaign... it all comes and goes, comes and goes... !

Range Hood Vent Code (2023 Requirements) - Home Inspector Secrets

My disagreement is with calling for a ban of gas stoves when the venting them removes the risk.

Part of the overall scheme to bann every power source, except electric (to promote solar and wind).

Uh, Oh...:eek::shocked::eek:

I completely agree with you, as I suspect the Consumer Product Safety people will as well... if your statement that venting removes the risk is true.

Do you know it is true? Did you read the research? Do gas stoves produce toxins and significant indoor air pollutants even when they are not being used thus not being ventilated even if you were to require that a vent be running if the stove is in use?

The question to be addressed is what are the risks and what are the mitigation options available. If the risk is high enough and it can not be mitigated then banning is an option. I suggest you click on the link early in this thread which goes to an article. Within that article is another link that takes you to a review of the available studies, as I recall about 80 of them.

I would point out that lead based paint was banned based on data which required that people ingest lead dust to be at risk, lick the walls. And I am sure all of us here or most of us grew up in homes with lead paint which wasn't banned until 1978. Are all of you anti-CPSC people going to come back and tell me that banning lead paint was a government overreach?

It’s part of the same bs banning all fossil fuels. There is no science to this and everybody knows this.