Shooting at Applebee's in Lady Lake this morning. (Tuesday).
 

This involved a fatality and an argument but the facts are under investigation. One of those involved had a concealed gun carry permit.

Applebee’s patron shoots, kills man inside The Villages restaurant, police say

The lack of facts 30 hours later is interesting.

Participants of the outdoor shooting is still walking around free.

Check your chamber.

Is Applebees competing with Margarita Republic for the most dangerous place in The Villages?

In NYC this would’ve never made the paper. Shows you how rare these occurrences are and how safe TV is.

Applebee's is open at 1am?????? Somethings not right with this whole story.

Bingo.

Sad, but true.

I recall a few weeks back when someone got arrested and charged with a 3rd degree felony (in Lady Lake I believe though I may be wrong on the location) for shoplifting 2 containers of ice cream and one of whipped cream from a convenience store. Cops would be guffawing loudly if such a thing were even reported the great majority of the areas most of us come from.

This death (even though we don’t know the particulars yet) is regrettable. But everything is relative. Law Enforcement will solve this promptly and the law will function as it should.In that respect, Villagers are lucky people.

This is not NYC.

To carry or not to carry? Will be debated on the next 50 posts.

From WESH 2 news (of course).

Florida Applebee's shooting leaves man dead

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Applebee's is open until 1 am, except Friday & Saturday, when it stays open until 2 am.

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I’ll remember that next time I’m craving some lousy food after midnight, which will be never.

According to Google maps, Applebees is open until 1:00 am. Hubby and I were there yesterday afternoon when the remote news teams were setting up for their reporting of the incident. One of the reporters told us what was going on when we asked him.

My older brother and his wife have eaten at that Applebee's. They like their food. Sad that this happened. It will probably take a while for the facts to get out as I expect lawyers have been hired who are telling those involved to keep quiet as the police investigate.

This is SUPPOSED to be a retirement community! This is not what I envisioned when moving here 11 years ago. The direction this community is taking saddens me.

If you want to be entertained (and have no concerns for your bodily safety) go to a Waffle House after midnight.

Comment not necessary....

Remember Vern Gagne? The professional wrestler from the 1960s or so? Well, even wrestlers retire and suffer the effects of aging. Vern was in a memory-care unit when another resident apparently got on his nerves. Vern body-slammed the guy and killed him. No charges because Vern was apparently suffering from advanced dementia.

We don't know at this point if the incident involved Villagers or not. Nor did the incident take place IN The Villages. But be that as it may there are 150,000 or so of us living here. None of us became angels on the day we retired, nor did we leave our likes, dislikes, prejudices, opinions, behavioral traits, etc. etc. from the place we moved from, when we moved here. We're human. We're all pretty much who we were all our lives, and with 150,000 of us in one spot, more or less, things like this WILL happen.

Not sure if I can believe this as it was not in the Sun this AM.

I agree! Your comment was not necessary. Neither is mine.

Page C4

NOTHING good happens after midnight.

I will have to look there. Did not see anything the first time around. Top right corner has a few paragraphs.

Don’t feel bad I missed the small article in The Daily Sun too. Although Applebees may not technically be in The villages, most consider that shopping and restaurant area to be The Villages as it is accessible by golf cart.

Concealed carry... And? No information saying the man shot was armed. Since when do you kill a man for putting his hand in his pocket? There may be much more to this story. A Concealed Carry is not a license to shoot at will.

Hopefully more information will come out. The reporting has been very limited about who did what to whom and why.

Lady Lake contains the oldest parts of the Villages.

Has more details. Still leaves a lot of questions unanswered. Like who fired the shots outside and whether or not anything was in the pockets of the victim of the shooting?
And what words were spoken and by whom? Law enforcement usually know what they are doing so I expect the facts will come out.

Well, actually it was in the Sun. Check page C3, the obituaries. And that is not a "snarky" or uncaring comment, it really is there.

What Happened
 

We don't know the details of what happened. The most likely scenario is that the man entered the restaurant with gun still in hand.

Don't assume people are "bad" because they have a gun for self-defense. Lives may have been saved by the person with a concealed carry permit. I support hand guns for self-defense possessed by sane, law-abiding citizens. When we take all unlawful guns away from criminals, then we can start taking lawful guns away from the general population.

That is not in the facts. He was reaching in his pocket according to witnesses or maybe as told by the shooter. They have not said what was in those pockets. Hopefully someone had their phone out and was recording or that the restaurant has surveillance cameras.

Maybe you would feel safer on Mars.

Seriously, TV is one of the safest communities in the country. Some people don't know when they have it good.

There is no place in America where some level of crime doesn't happen.

If you find a safer place besides Mars, let us know.

Facts have not been published.

Based on "stories", pretty quick trigger finger.

:ho:

Why isn’t the information getting out on this Thwarted Attempted Robbery ?

The Sun doesn't report bad news.

According to the information available, there were shots fired outside prior to the shooting. In the parking lot? If the shooter reasonably believed that he or others present risked life or great bodily harm when the person killed entered the restaurant and reached for his pocket, then at this point it would appear to be a justified shooting.

Stress "at this point". There is still a lot we don't know and that may be a completely wrong assumption. But if this story proceeds along the lines of most others of this nature, we can be assured that The Court of Public Opinion will have one side or the other tried, convicted and hung quite a long time before we know the complete story.

They have a bar

I haven’t seen nothing yet
Wait until the apartment complexes are completed tens of thousands of non-retirees. The villages will be easy pickings

I thought guns were not allowed at places that sell alcohol. It may have been a good shoot, but the shooter could still be in trouble for it. I hope for his sake the the deceased had a gun.

In a larger city, the chief of police would be on television with more details of this shooting. Just saying.