The Daily Kos Reports That Male TSA Agents Are Targeting Women.
 

Some commentators have been trying to portray the outrage of fliers against the TSA as having been fomented by politically conservative voices. Well that's about to change.

Daily Kos, the ultra-liberal website has started to take notice of the outrageous actions of male TSA agents in targeting women.

They say that only female agents grope females, but it's far from the truth. Reports are coming in from many airports of male agents pressuring women to allow them to grope them or they'll be greatly delayed.

Some women have submitted, and have been traumatized by the experience.

When are we all going to rise up against this?


http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/20...ellers-(w-poll)

Richie. My private research on this subject, done at Thanksgiving dinner and lunches with frequent fliers is..........it ain't so bad.

Beats the hell outa bein' blown up.

Have you flown in the last coupla weeks?

It's all good.

How Silly! Maybe they just like it!

I flew to Philadelphia from Orlando on Thanksgiving day and returned on Tuesday. I saw nothing different regarding the security checks. Eveyone moved along with out delays. These isolated incidents are being blown way out of portion......as usual.

They relaxed the procedures over the Thanksgiving weekend just to deflate the outcry that was building.

People who flew on Thanksgiving weekend, for the most part, were not subjected to the new enhanced pat downs or naked body scans

Just read the first hand reports, Gracie; I'm not making this up.

The new procedures are not protecting you. They're already already obsolete and ineffective. You're being conned if you believe otherwise.

Read my response to Gracie. You were duped.

You're becoming a great asset to this blog, NOT!!

Duped.....what the hxxx does that mean?

It means that if you're judging the TSA by their Thanksgiving Weekend toned-down searches, you don't have a clue about what's been happening and is happening again.

if u don't like the protocol at the airports, take the train or drive, not sure there are a lot of other choices...gn

I'm not flying until the scanners and gropers are gone.

You're welcome to the search of your genitals and the search of your spouse's genitals and your children's genitals, but I'll be driving.

Doesn't mean I like it or have to shut up about it.

The point of this post was to show you that it is not just DRUDGE REPORT, or FOX NEWS, or GLENN BECK that are outraged by the new search protocols at our nations airlines, but now the ultra-ultra-lefist website THE DAILY KOS is also having to acknowledge the abuses of the TSA.

ARE YOU LISTENING OUT THERE!!!

Hello..........hello........hello

you're out there buddy, doesn't sound like you'll ever be flying again....gn

I'll be flying again when the scanners and gropers are gone, and our 4th Amendment rights have been restored.

"I'm out there"; ...................unbelievable.

I may not be entirely in favor of what TSA is doing, but your comments deserve a "Best wishes..and goodbye"!!

if i fly in the future glad to know you're not...gn

I don't understand how people can be so glib about watching their freedoms being taken away before their very eyes.

I guess responses to this thread goes to answer how so many of our liberties and freedom have been taken away. It is done by gradual attrition. I know in my life time I never expected to see a judge overrule the vote of the people. Do you suppose people at one time never dreamed something like the Federal Reserve would be created?

Did you ever imagine there would be a Constitution Free Zone, a 100-mile band around the coast and borders of Mexico and Canada where no constitutional freedom applies?

Just a few short years ago, I would have argued that the government would never take over businesses in America or that we would never be forced to buy insurance. Sharia Law being upheld in any of our courts? Not a chance. Guess again.

I don't care if this TSA incident happened six months ago or six days ago. To one person or to 100. It is wrong.

Now we just stand there while we are searched and our belongings are seized all in the name of safety.

bk, when were you searched and your belongings seized...gn

Thank you BK; I thought I was in the Twilight Zone with some of the reactions to the articles I've posted here.

I'm gratified for your serious response to a serious issue.

golfnut, I was flying into Boston with my husband headed to Woonsocket, RI, about two years ago. At the first security check point, the TSA agent looked at my ID and boarding pass and said, "Today is your lucky day." I flashed him a big ole' smile and said, "Really?"

He said yes ma'me and before I knew it a woman with rubber gloves was escourting me to a special area. She said my ticket was selected at random. They were very matter-of-fact. I was very polite. They weren't rude or anything like that. I was in shock to be honest.

They let my husband follow me around. He half-jokingly said at the time that he loved it because after the check we went through a busy area with no more lines. The funny thing, as it was happening and my husband said we were together and didn't want to get separated, I handed him my carry-on.

Nobody batted an eye. I did it without thinking because I was taking off my coat.

I was put into the scanner and into a drug testing air poofing thing. I was also physically searched. The only belonging that was taken was a bic lighter I forgot was in my purse.

I was very nervous and very cooperative. I said then that I was happy to do anything in the name of protecting our country. Now, I'm seeing things differently with the manner the government is "protecting" us.

My father-in-law just flew to Florida from Virginia during Thanksgiving. Like many people, he said it went smoothly and it is all media-hype. His container of shaving cream was too big and was tossed.

imo, u may still be in the twz, but thats jmo, not bk's...gn

Sorry about your closed mind on this subject. I've done all I could.

and that's the best u could do....gn

I think all of us would be uncomfortable with searches that involve unnecessary patting and groping. Hopefully the number of TSA personnel abusing their power is small, and they will be fired.

However, if body searches are required to eliminate terrorists and make the skies safe for flying, then IMHO, it's a necessary evil.

"if they are required" is the crux of the matter, isn't it?

You believe they are? You believe that rape victims have to be subjected to this in the name of "security"?

These procedures are already obsolete, so what's the point?

Watch this video. This is where commonsense needs to come into the picture.

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/149217

You didn't read the article. It was the first hand experience of a rape victim at the hands of a male TSA employee.

Defaming me make you look like a smuck.

What he means golfnut is to use a little emphathy and to think about how someone who had been raped would feel being subjected to a body search by a stranger. Or how about someone who had been molested and didn't like to be touched by strangers.

How about the guy with the urine bag thing (I can't remember what it's called) who tried, unsucessfully, to tell the TSA agent he had a medical problem and needed to tell him about the issue.

The TSA agent ended up pushing the bag and urine went everywhere on the man. He had to fly with his own urine all over himself. Commonsense could have solved this.

the term is schmuck, get a clue..start another thread on this subject, you've got three going already.

we are talking about a few isolated incidents here, the procedures in place are to protect 100,000+ people who fly every day...gn

This thread is fascinating to me.

I recall a few years ago all the flap about the wiretapping by the NSA and all the emotional calls about how we were losing our freedoms despite the facts of the issue.

Now this....something tells me this is pretty much become a political issue. One side is quick to condemn the NSA wiretapping and declare the end of all of our rights and one side says it is necessary.

Now, the side that defended the wiretaps is saying it is the end of our rights, and those that were appalled by the NSA wiretaps are saying it is necessary.

What a world we live in....if you read some of the posts they are so like, almost duplicates of what was said in the political forum to make political points.

I dont know what is right or wrong since I do not have all the information, but I said when folks were complaining how they were losing all their rights with the wiretapping (continued by the current IN's despite the anger) that the media is twisting all of us into a ball and have us chasing our tails. It now seems that they, the media, control what is reported and how and we all react to it with no private investigation.

There were and will be over reaches with the wiretapping and there will be overreach with the TSA.

Now that I have angered both sides........

I've noticed the same thing. The video with the media personalities' kid screaming is a good example. Did he stage it for ratings? It showed the child only being touched on her lower legs and upper arms, not being molested. The mom was doing nothing at all to try to calm her child down. That's not how mom's usually act when they are not being filmed for what is ironically called "reality TV".

Like Bucco, I don't have all the information but have noticed a "fast food" junk diet of media sensationalism and unsubstantiated personal accounts but little dispassionate actual "journalism," or what used to be considered journalism.

These stories are now being reported by all sides of the media. The "conservative" media was out in front on this story, and now the "liberal" media is catching up.

When does it become journalism in your opinion?

When pertinent questions are asked, all sides are presented, "facts" are investigated and substantiated and issues are presented dispassionately.

well said pt and bucco....gn

Is there a major media source where your requirements for journalism are happening? Who would have to relate a news story to you for you to give it weight?

I've read stories in many major newspapers from around the country, and can link them, if you'd like.

I've read them in conservative leaning papers like the Washington Times and liberal leaning papers like the Los Angeles Times.

I've read stories liked through conservative leaning websites like The Drudge Report and now stories printed on the left leaning website The Daily Kos.

There's thousands of words printed about what we've been discussing.

If the government gave a hoot about security they would secure the borders, profile, etc.
I don't like to fly, anyway, so this is all the excuse I need.

Hi Richie,
I see that you asked me questions in the first paragraph of your post that I'm quoting. I've answered in bold within your text.

Do not believe Dailykos. They are a propaganda arm of the left. They are just trying to stir the pot.

Yoda

I wonder if the posts on this thread and this forum in general would be as vociferous and disrespectful if the posters were stripped of their anonymity.

Question: Unless you fly for a living and are worried about the accumulation of x-rays - Why not submit to the scanner? Certainly beats the pat down in my opinion. Maybe we have to forgo some of our previous freedoms in the name of safety? Given the choice I'll take the scanner. I would bet that 99.99% of TSA agents don't like the pat down either.