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Michael 61 03-28-2023 12:11 PM

When does “snowbird” season end?
 
I’ve only been here a few months - was just wondering at what point do most snowbirds return North?

Gpsma 03-28-2023 12:14 PM

My observations are the first flock of restaurant clogging snow birds leave the emd of March. Probably renters who rent by the month and arent renting for april.

The second big flock of these entitled birds leaves after Easter.

Good bye and good riddance.

bsloan1960 03-28-2023 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 2202214)
My observations are the first flock of restaurant clogging snow birds leave the emd of March. Probably renters who rent by the month and arent renting for april.

The second big flock of these entitled birds leaves after Easter.

Good bye and good riddance.

You are looking at the Snowbird population backwards. They aren't in TV clogging up everything for 1/2 a year- they are AWAY for 1/2 a year making things less crowed. If they were year round residents it would be crowed all the time. During the months they are away- and NOT using the amenities they are still Paying EVERY month. If they didn't pay while they were gone your amenity fees would possibly double. So, they pay year round, every month, and stay away freeing up space for half a year. Thank you Snowbirds.

asianthree 03-28-2023 12:23 PM

So our first two houses were investment properties. For high season one was rented to the same couple October 1 to Thanksgiving week, then December 26 to April 30.

The other home was November leaving April 30. Many renters leave March 31, but given the parking lot 1-75 becomes, have noticed the new trend is to leave end of April. Renters stay less time, usually then Owner Snowbirds.

As Owner Birds, for us we came September 25, and left May 30.

asianthree 03-28-2023 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 2202214)
My observations are the first flock of restaurant clogging snow birds leave the emd of March. Probably renters who rent by the month and arent renting for april.

The second big flock of these entitled birds leaves after Easter.

Good bye and good riddance.

Another clueless comment about snowbirds. You should be very happy that they return to their Primary or vacation home in March or April.

I vote for every snowbird and renter to stay 12 months out of the year and then see how happy you are. Then your life can be snowbird miserable 12 months out of the year.

Just remember they pay their amenity fees higher taxes, every bill just like you, but they choose to own more than one home and can leave at any time, and also can return it anytime. We love our lake house, up north that you can swim, boat, ski, without a gator

retiredguy123 03-28-2023 12:32 PM

To me, this year it seems like we have had the worst traffic in the past 7 years. I hope it settles down in April.

rustyp 03-28-2023 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 2202214)
My observations are the first flock of restaurant clogging snow birds leave the emd of March. Probably renters who rent by the month and arent renting for april.

The second big flock of these entitled birds leaves after Easter.

Good bye and good riddance.

I stay until mid June just to pi$$ the frogs off.

Gpsma 03-28-2023 01:18 PM

Oh please with the nonsense argument about snow birds paying their amenity fees..big deal. They own a house, they pay. How about the renter snowbirds? They pay just rent to enrich home owners that arent true Villagers.

Snowbirds are merely vacationers, renter snowbirds are tourists.

Harold Schwartz never intended the Villages to be like this. Snowbirds should be shunned by all true full-time residents.

Papa_lecki 03-28-2023 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 2202214)
My observations are the first flock of restaurant clogging snow birds leave the emd of March. Probably renters who rent by the month and arent renting for april.

The second big flock of these entitled birds leaves after Easter.

Good bye and good riddance.

Your house would be worth half as much and your amenity fee would be double if it weren’t for the snowbirds.

Papa_lecki 03-28-2023 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 2202233)
Harold Schwartz never intended the Villages to be like this. Snowbirds should be shunned by all true full-time residents.

When did Mr Schwartz tell you that?

kkingston57 03-28-2023 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bsloan1960 (Post 2202215)
You are looking at the Snowbird population backwards. They aren't in TV clogging up everything for 1/2 a year- they are AWAY for 1/2 a year making things less crowed. If they were year round residents it would be crowed all the time. During the months they are away- and NOT using the amenities they are still Paying EVERY month. If they didn't pay while they were gone your amenity fees would possibly double. So, they pay year round, every month, and stay away freeing up space for half a year. Thank you Snowbirds.

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Great way to look at this situation. Lived in Florida entire life and so many people knock down "snowbirds". Like them or not "snowbirds" help keep Florida from having a state income tax.

I'm Popeye! 03-28-2023 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kkingston57 (Post 2202259)
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Great way to look at this situation. Lived in Florida entire life and so many people knock down "snowbirds". Like them or not "snowbirds" help keep Florida from having a state income tax.

Maybe that's why SNOWBIRDS come to Florida, to Escape from Taxes.
Or they come here for the big hype, Sex! :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Velvet 03-28-2023 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 2202233)
Oh please with the nonsense argument about snow birds paying their amenity fees..big deal. They own a house, they pay. How about the renter snowbirds? They pay just rent to enrich home owners that arent true Villagers.

Snowbirds are merely vacationers, renter snowbirds are tourists.

Harold Schwartz never intended the Villages to be like this. Snowbirds should be shunned by all true full-time residents.

You are quite mistaken, Mr Schwartz, himself, invited both my uncle who lived and died in TV as full time resident, and my parents who came to see my uncle mostly, and eventually bought a seasonal home.

BrianL99 03-28-2023 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 2202233)
Oh please with the nonsense argument about snow birds paying their amenity fees..big deal. They own a house, they pay. How about the renter snowbirds? They pay just rent to enrich home owners that arent true Villagers.

Snowbirds are merely vacationers, renter snowbirds are tourists.

Harold Schwartz never intended the Villages to be like this. Snowbirds should be shunned by all true full-time residents.

I've read obnoxious, ridiculous post on this site before, but this gets my nomination for Most Obnoxious Post of 2023.

BTW, if you're a "True Villager", do you get a special tattoo or something? Is there a secret handshake?

DALEPQ 03-28-2023 04:47 PM

Snowbirds
 
Just because the "year rounders" have only one house and stay here all year round, that
it some how makes them superior to others that maintain 2 homes to enjoy the best
of both worlds is totally ludicrous.
Just shows that they are extremely jealous of those that don't have to force themselves
to endure the summer "sweats", by going north and enjoying beautiful weather.
Too bad, so sad!!!!!!!!!!!!

BrianL99 03-28-2023 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DALEPQ (Post 2202278)
Just because the "year rounders" have only one house and stay here all year round, that
it some how makes them superior to others that maintain 2 homes to enjoy the best
of both worlds is totally ludicrous.
Just shows that they are extremely jealous of those that don't have to force themselves
to endure the summer "sweats", by going north and enjoying beautiful weather.
Too bad, so sad!!!!!!!!!!!!

The "have nots" will always resent the "haves". It's human nature, although you'd think by retirement age, folks would have gotten over it ... what the hell, they've spent a lot of time as "have nots".

Bogie Shooter 03-28-2023 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2202276)
I've read obnoxious, ridiculous post on this site before, but this gets my nomination for Most Obnoxious Post of 2023.

BTW, if you're a "True Villager", do you get a special tattoo or something? Is there a secret handshake?

If not most….a close second!

billethkid 03-28-2023 04:56 PM

Just remember this years "slow season" will be the same as some previous years "busy season"..........maybe 5 years ago?

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Bikehike 03-28-2023 05:26 PM

SOON. Better ask her out even sooner

JMintzer 03-28-2023 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 2202214)
My observations are the first flock of restaurant clogging snow birds leave the emd of March. Probably renters who rent by the month and arent renting for april.

The second big flock of these entitled birds leaves after Easter.

Good bye and good riddance.

How nice...

JMintzer 03-28-2023 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 2202233)
Oh please with the nonsense argument about snow birds paying their amenity fees..big deal. They own a house, they pay. How about the renter snowbirds? They pay just rent to enrich home owners that arent true Villagers.

Snowbirds are merely vacationers, renter snowbirds are tourists.

Harold Schwartz never intended the Villages to be like this. Snowbirds should be shunned by all true full-time residents.

Even nicer!

Jayhawk 03-28-2023 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 2202214)
My observations are the first flock of restaurant clogging snow birds leave the emd of March. Probably renters who rent by the month and arent renting for april.

The second big flock of these entitled birds leaves after Easter.

Good bye and good riddance.

That is WAY harsh. The seasonal folks make this place possible for a lot of folks. If they only had to pay amenity fees when the properties are rented, the full-timers would pay a lot more.

I don't think they are the entitled ones in this thread.

Mirror mirror on the wall....

Jayhawk 03-28-2023 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 2202233)
Oh please with the nonsense argument about snow birds paying their amenity fees..big deal. They own a house, they pay. How about the renter snowbirds? They pay just rent to enrich home owners that arent true Villagers.

Snowbirds are merely vacationers, renter snowbirds are tourists.

Harold Schwartz never intended the Villages to be like this. Snowbirds should be shunned by all true full-time residents.

Must be a tough life to be so damn miserable to others.

And somebody should be shunned, but it isn't snowbirds.

Adios.



By the way, how long did you know old Harold?

kcrazorbackfan 03-28-2023 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael 61 (Post 2202212)
I’ve only been here a few months - was just wondering at what point do most snowbirds return North?

There are so many residents moving in that it will seem like they don’t leave.

Michael 61 03-28-2023 07:50 PM

Ugh - I‘m sorry I posted this question - I should have realized it would turn ugly - I simply was asking at about what time do many of the snowbirds leave, and nothing more than a simple answer would have sufficed without the commentary. I’ll know better next time.

BrianL99 03-28-2023 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael 61 (Post 2202322)
Ugh - I‘m sorry I posted this question - I should have realized it would turn ugly - I simply was asking at about what time do many of the snowbirds leave, and nothing more than a simple answer would have sufficed without the commentary. I’ll know better next time.

I think most leave around 7:00 - 8:00 am to get a decent jump on traffic.

Garywt 03-28-2023 09:16 PM

I think it would be great if all homeowners could stay year round and keep things busy all year. What would the current full time residents complain about then.

I'm Popeye! 03-28-2023 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DALEPQ (Post 2202278)
Just because the "year rounders" have only one house and stay here all year round, that
it some how makes them superior to others that maintain 2 homes to enjoy the best
of both worlds is totally ludicrous.
Just shows that they are extremely jealous of those that don't have to force themselves
to endure the summer "sweats", by going north and enjoying beautiful weather.
Too bad, so sad!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you implying that you have MORE MONEY than those living here year-round?
I retired in 2009 and left a city home only to the working class or those looking to get killed. I moved to Florida to enjoy the days I have left and not run around from state to state like some gypsy.
Most of these snowbirds go back North or whatever to babysit the out-of-school brats anyway, but they will not admit it: it's the reason they go wild when they return to the Villages! :ho:

Garywt 03-29-2023 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by I'm Popeye! (Post 2202342)
Are you implying that you have MORE MONEY than those living here year-round?
I retired in 2009 and left a city home only to the working class or those looking to get killed. I moved to Florida to enjoy the days I have left and not run around from state to state like some gypsy.
Most of these snowbirds go back North or whatever to babysit the out-of-school brats anyway, but they will not admit it: it's the reason they go wild when they return to the Villages! :ho:

Not a very nice way to talk about grandchildren, sorry you think so little of them. I love my grandchildren and they are the best medicine for me including the one that lives with me and the one that was born yesterday. I would take my grandsons over just about anything.

Worldseries27 03-29-2023 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by bsloan1960 (Post 2202215)
you are looking at the snowbird population backwards. They aren't in tv clogging up everything for 1/2 a year- they are away for 1/2 a year making things less crowed. If they were year round residents it would be crowed all the time. During the months they are away- and not using the amenities they are still paying every month. If they didn't pay while they were gone your amenity fees would possibly double. So, they pay year round, every month, and stay away freeing up space for half a year. Thank you snowbirds.

good point

Worldseries27 03-29-2023 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by michael 61 (Post 2202322)
ugh - i‘m sorry i posted this question - i should have realized it would turn ugly - i simply was asking at about what time do many of the snowbirds leave, and nothing more than a simple answer would have sufficed without the commentary. I’ll know better next time.

one bad op does not a consensus make. Good ask imho.

Villages Kahuna 03-29-2023 04:43 AM

Whatever you do, stay off I-75 around the 1st of the month!

BrianL99 03-29-2023 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by I'm Popeye! (Post 2202342)
Are you implying that you have MORE MONEY than those living here year-round?
I retired in 2009 and left a city home only to the working class or those looking to get killed. I moved to Florida to enjoy the days I have left and not run around from state to state like some gypsy.
Most of these snowbirds go back North or whatever to babysit the out-of-school brats anyway, but they will not admit it: it's the reason they go wild when they return to the Villages! :ho:

Many of the vilified "Snow Birds" didn't come here from "working class city homes" where they were waiting to be killed. Many (or most) come from fancy, expensive homes, in exclusive suburbs, that they have no need to escape from.

Perhaps if your life was more accomplished, you'd think differently about those who are in a position to enjoy the best of both worlds.

Rwirish 03-29-2023 05:08 AM

So you don’t like gators?

banjobob 03-29-2023 05:08 AM

True comment the exodus to the north begins in April . Truck stops are overloaded with RV’s

La lamy 03-29-2023 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 2202214)
My observations are the first flock of restaurant clogging snow birds leave the emd of March. Probably renters who rent by the month and arent renting for april.

The second big flock of these entitled birds leaves after Easter.

Good bye and good riddance.

Such an ignorant, backwards comment. Shame on you.

lisahathy 03-29-2023 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by bsloan1960 (Post 2202215)
You are looking at the Snowbird population backwards. They aren't in TV clogging up everything for 1/2 a year- they are AWAY for 1/2 a year making things less crowed. If they were year round residents it would be crowed all the time. During the months they are away- and NOT using the amenities they are still Paying EVERY month. If they didn't pay while they were gone your amenity fees would possibly double. So, they pay year round, every month, and stay away freeing up space for half a year. Thank you Snowbirds.

Your comment is exactly right. Snowbirds pay a full year of property taxes, trash removal, amenity fees and only use these services for part of the year. The people that now live here full time and whine about snowbirds should be thanking them for subsidizing their retirement.

hoot2602 03-29-2023 05:29 AM

I've only been here a few months...
 
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Originally Posted by Michael 61 (Post 2202212)
I’ve only been here a few months - was just wondering at what point do most snowbirds return North?

Most of the permanent residents in TV are ignoring the fact that the permanent population of TV is increasing rapidly. This means that, on average, demand for services is going up daily. Then, add the Snowbirds and you have peak population and demand during the winter months. Ever wonder why there are new grocery stores, restaurants, etc., coming into TV? There are a few businesses that rely on the Snowbirds for survival/profits. But, you don't build a $100 million grocery store hoping that you will make a profit during 25% (3 months) of the year. The simple fact is that the population of TV is now more than 130,000 and it takes a lot of businesses to satisfy the needs and demands of that many people. Hence, growth begats growth. Thus, don't look forward to a significant drop in traffic or restaurant occupancy, etc., when the Snowbirds are gone because there are more of us permanent residents than ever before.

Duppman 03-29-2023 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 2202233)
Oh please with the nonsense argument about snow birds paying their amenity fees..big deal. They own a house, they pay. How about the renter snowbirds? They pay just rent to enrich home owners that arent true Villagers.

Snowbirds are merely vacationers, renter snowbirds are tourists.

Harold Schwartz never intended the Villages to be like this. Snowbirds should be shunned by all true full-time residents.

Hmm. Never took a 3+ month vacation while I was working. Please tell us more about Harold's vision! Shun away!

WingedFoot78 03-29-2023 05:48 AM

The traffic is going to get worse with every year as long as the developer keeps building new houses.


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