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jebartle 03-31-2023 05:46 AM

Brick and mortar VS Amazon
 
How do brick and mortar compete with Amazon, as hard as I try to give local vendors some business, sometimes the difference is overwhelming! Example, buying harness for our New bundle of fluff, went to Petco, same harness as Amazon, $20 difference, yipsters!

LuvNH 03-31-2023 06:04 AM

My northern home is rural, Amazon has become a necessity. When I am in TV I shop locally for convenience and to see what I am buying.

I do not buy fresh produce from Amazon and probably will never do so. Once I am back north I have farm stands and Market Basket, and when I am in TV I like the tropical fruit available.

Keefelane66 03-31-2023 06:05 AM

If I need an item ASAP I’ll purchase locally otherwise Amazon.

Freehiker 03-31-2023 06:20 AM

I buy almost everything on Amazon, just watch the prices. Not everything on there is a deal.

I absolutely love that I can order and get some things the same day here.

Michael 61 03-31-2023 06:35 AM

I love Amazon - has almost everything I need, and my time shopping at stores has been reduced greatly. My shopping these days consist of just a weekly Publix run, a quarterly Costco run, and an occasional Home Depot stop as necessary. Clothes shopping is all on-line now (Nordstrom, Vineyard Vines, Cole Haan and Vulori.) it’s nice not to have shopping take up a chunk of your time in retirement.

retiredguy123 03-31-2023 06:42 AM

As successful as Amazon is, they still have tremendous opportunity for growth. I think that many people go to stores because they don't realize that Amazon is a much better way to shop. I buy almost everything from Amazon, even some food items. I rarely go to Lowes or Home Depot because Amazon sells everything they do and usually delivers it the next day for a lower price.

Kenswing 03-31-2023 07:00 AM

I buy most things from Amazon. But it’s still good to check prices. I recently bought a pressure washer. It was $30 cheaper at Lowes before the 10% Veterans discount.

asianthree 03-31-2023 07:15 AM

Always a Amazon fan. I can send anything, including food items to parents, surprise little gifts, and just something to make them smile. Since they are in the snow belt, and should not be driving. Their Amazon guy, rings their doorbell and wait’s for them so he can drop inside. I can’t thank him enough for this gesture.

Kroger is their food delivery, and their driver actually checks their mailbox and drops their mail in the bag,

As for us, I finally had to brick and mortar something last week. Only had 1 of the item I needed instead of 4. It had been at least 3 years since I went in a store other than Costco, or Sam’s. Since we were out stopped for lunch, best part of the shopping trip. Came home and ordered from Amazon.

I remember when I posted in September of 2017, that I had Amazon deliver after Irma, and that I hadn’t been in a B/M store in years. That I had groceries delivered by Amazon. Can’t tell you how many posters told me that I couldn’t do that, and Why would I ever have groceries delivered to my home.

I predicted home delivery use, would be common place, just as I have done for many years.

NotGolfer 03-31-2023 07:59 AM

I use Amazon for nearly everything, especially since Covid. I used to shop B&M but when the plague hit, the stores were slammed with people who wanted to get out. I guess I'd rather not play "bumper carts" in stores that have narrow aisles and lots of items crammed in them. But that's just me. I discovered Kroger Delivery over a year ago and LOVE it. Sometimes my desired item isn't available so I will go to the store that I'm certain it might be. I think Covid has changed the lives of many people and how they live (beyond the fear etc). It's too bad how our culture has changed so dramatically and quickly.

jimbomaybe 03-31-2023 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 2203085)
I buy most things from Amazon. But it’s still good to check prices. I recently bought a pressure washer. It was $30 cheaper at Lowes before the 10% Veterans discount.

Amazon is the place to start and "most " times has the best price. My experience has been If there is a problem Amazon is great to do business with, but checking other online sources can, time to time save you some more money, only negative I have with Amazon is not buying it at $8.

Bill14564 03-31-2023 08:53 AM

Easier to research options and prices on Amazon.

Easier to touch and feel and bring it home today a brick and mortar store.

Happened to be in a store this week and remembered I needed batteries. Price in the store was $11.25 (or close to that). Thought that was high so came home and checked Amazon. Price with tax on Amazon was $9.26. Saved $2 but received six batteries instead of two; store price was almost four times higher than Amazon!

I like the idea of shopping at local businesses even if they cost a little more. Recently bought shoes at Lake Sumter and was surprised to see their price was the same as Amazon. Would feel comfortable paying a little more to keep the local business in business. But can't bring myself to pay four times as much just to buy locally.

retiredguy123 03-31-2023 09:06 AM

I tried to buy a pair of Teva sandals at Shoe Biz because I wanted to see them in person. Three stores in The Villages, but none of them had my size. They could order them and get them in about 2 weeks. I got them in 2 days from Amazon for a lower price. I don't know how a store like that can even exist.

La lamy 04-01-2023 05:07 AM

I like shopping on Amazon whenever I can, but not being a fan of Amazon Prime for $14.99 or whatever it is these days, the delivery cost can be absurd. I was quoted $7 delivery for a $10 item this week. I opted for the free 30 day trial of Prime to avoid the delivery cost and will have to remember to cancel it before the 30 days is up. I find their return policy convenient and trustworthy, which is not the case with other online shopping. Brick and mortar is usually just for Home Depot or Lowes, even though I've often had to be referred to online shopping with them too for specific items they didn't carry in the store. Patience grasshopper...

midiwiz 04-01-2023 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 2203041)
How do brick and mortar compete with Amazon, as hard as I try to give local vendors some business, sometimes the difference is overwhelming! Example, buying harness for our New bundle of fluff, went to Petco, same harness as Amazon, $20 difference, yipsters!

only sometimes, unfortunately Amazon began with products that are familiar and what you would find in the store..... it has evolved to be nothing more than a sales channel for the asian (specifically China) marketplace. The quality has gone way down, I find myself using it for only a handfull of product. I'd rather buy local, however to do that around here takes a 90 minute round trip.

Sandy and Ed 04-01-2023 05:38 AM

WOW!! 100% positive comments. Guess I’ll add ours. This keeps up we’ll be plowing the B&M shopping centers under and reclaiming our farmlands. Lol

retiredguy123 04-01-2023 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by La lamy (Post 2203376)
I like shopping on Amazon whenever I can, but not being a fan of Amazon Prime for $14.99 or whatever it is these days, the delivery cost can be absurd. I was quoted $7 delivery for a $10 item this week. I opted for the free 30 day trial of Prime to avoid the delivery cost and will have to remember to cancel it before the 30 days is up. I find their return policy convenient and trustworthy, which is not the case with other online shopping. Brick and mortar is usually just for Home Depot or Lowes, even though I've often had to be referred to online shopping with them too for specific items they didn't carry in the store. Patience grasshopper...

Amazon Prime is $139 per year, which is about $11.60 per month. In 2022, I placed 115 orders, so, for me, it is a real bargain. So far in 2023, I have placed 30 orders, and my order frequency is always increasing. Also, you can share your membership with another adult. The only possible negative to sharing is that you will both have access to your stored payment methods. There are other Prime benefits, such as a free streaming video channel, free streaming music, and free kindle books to read. There is also a list of other benefits and discounts that I don't use.

jamorela 04-01-2023 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by La lamy (Post 2203376)
I like shopping on Amazon whenever I can, but not being a fan of Amazon Prime for $14.99 or whatever it is these days, the delivery cost can be absurd. I was quoted $7 delivery for a $10 item this week. I opted for the free 30 day trial of Prime to avoid the delivery cost and will have to remember to cancel it before the 30 days is up. I find their return policy convenient and trustworthy, which is not the case with other online shopping. Brick and mortar is usually just for Home Depot or Lowes, even though I've often had to be referred to online shopping with them too for specific items they didn't carry in the store. Patience grasshopper...

There is always something i can add to my order to make it total $25 and get free shipping.

retiredguy123 04-01-2023 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by midiwiz (Post 2203383)
only sometimes, unfortunately Amazon began with products that are familiar and what you would find in the store..... it has evolved to be nothing more than a sales channel for the asian (specifically China) marketplace. The quality has gone way down, I find myself using it for only a handfull of product. I'd rather buy local, however to do that around here takes a 90 minute round trip.

That has not been my experience at all. For example, I cannot remember the last time I went to Lowes or Home Depot. I think Amazon sells almost every product that those two stores carry and most are delivered the next day. They also sell most non-food items that Publix, Winn-Dixie, and Walgreens carry. I recently bought toilet paper, shampoo, paper plates, Kleenex, non-prescription drugs, cleaning supplies, beverages, spices, and many other items. All of them were name brand products that you will pay more for in the stores. I also buy clothing items and shoes from Amazon.

airstreamingypsy 04-01-2023 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by La lamy (Post 2203376)
I like shopping on Amazon whenever I can, but not being a fan of Amazon Prime for $14.99 or whatever it is these days, the delivery cost can be absurd. I was quoted $7 delivery for a $10 item this week. I opted for the free 30 day trial of Prime to avoid the delivery cost and will have to remember to cancel it before the 30 days is up. I find their return policy convenient and trustworthy, which is not the case with other online shopping. Brick and mortar is usually just for Home Depot or Lowes, even though I've often had to be referred to online shopping with them too for specific items they didn't carry in the store. Patience grasshopper...

I resisted but finally went with Prime. I love "free" delivery..... I know its not free, but it seems to be once Prime is paid for <g> I also use Prime Video and stream shows. I also pay to stream music on my Amazon Echos.

NoMo50 04-01-2023 07:13 AM

We have been using Amazon since its early days, when it was primarily an online bookseller. While we love Amazon and use it often, it is not always the best deal going. Two examples from just yesterday: We were at Rustic Rose in Brownwood, and saw a very nice doormat. My wife thought the price was a little high, so she checks Amazon, and finds the same rug on Amazon for $10 more than the brick & mortar. Back at home, I discover I'm running low on my fave BBQ sauce from Kansas City. On Amazon, they wanted $24 for 2 bottles with free shipping. I checked the restaurant's website, and found the same sauce from them at $69 for a case of 12, with free shipping. While I didn't really need 12 bottles, I have two friends who wanted some. So, we each get 4 bottles at less than 6 bucks per bottle. Bottom line...Amazon is, for sure, convenient, but not always the best way to go.

Djean1981 04-01-2023 07:16 AM

No contest. I don't enjoy shopping.. Except for groceries, it's mainly online.

Villages Kahuna 04-01-2023 07:19 AM

I haven’t purchased anything in a brick and mortar store in well over a year. There’s nothing that I wanted to purchase that I couldn’t find on Amazon. I love being able to get what I purchase in two days, sometimes on the next day.

Returns are free and easy. Just drop them off at a UPS store, or even easier at Kohl’s on 441, where they have a large, well-staffed Amazon only returns department just inside the front door usually with no waiting line like at UPS. If you return at either, your credit card will be credited before you get home.

While Amazon’s prices aren’t necessarily the cheapest, usually just MSRP, I find that I actually save money shopping with them because I’m not tempted to buy products I don’t need as the result of wandering up and down store aisles. I think I save a lot actually!

I would only suggest that you take care to purchase from Amazon and not third party sellers that list their products. If you have any difficulties with the quality, delivery or returns, Amazon will not stand behind transactions with third parties. , Third party transactions can be a horror show. They’re clearly identified in the product listings. Often they’re the cheapest price, but often have 7-10 day deliveries because they are, foreign businesses or individuals, often in the Far East. Because Amazon won’t offer the same service as they do on their own listings, you discover there’s no phone contact or even email for the third party and very difficult or no return policies. There aren’t that many third party sellers and Amazon constantly weeds out the “bad” ones. Just be careful.

ThirdOfFive 04-01-2023 07:26 AM

As they say, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. A lot of the big-box stores have online service similar to Amazon: Home Depot for example has online shopping and home delivery service that (except for speed of delivery) is every bit as good as Amazon, and I do order from them from time to time. The difference of course is that Home Depot carries home improvement products. Amazon carries virtually everything.

That’s not to say Amazon is perfect. Far from it. One of the major headaches in my estimation is the plethora of Chinese junk sold there under (often very obvious) false or deceiving advertising. Another thing is their return process. They offer a more-or-less instant refund if you take it in the form of an Amazon Prime credit. The other option is that they will refund it to your credit card, which can take quite a long time—once, for me, two months.

I also use Amazon Prime to stream movies. While the service is good technically the selection is rather limited. Not a big deal—not the primary reason I subscribe to Prime anyway—but the selection seems more limited than even, say, two years ago.

retiredguy123 04-01-2023 07:40 AM

Note that, if you see a product advertised on television, and they give you a website to order it, you should always check Amazon for the same product. Often, you can buy the exact same product from Amazon for a lower price and with free and faster shipping. Sometimes, it is even being sold by the same company.

Another use for Amazon is that, if you are buying an in-stock electronic product or appliance from Best Buy, you can check the price on Amazon, and Best Buy will match the Amazon price. I have done that several times.

MrFlorida 04-01-2023 07:59 AM

Amazon, Large selection of products, free shipping (with prime) , delivered to your door, and simple no hassle returns....

ThirdOfFive 04-01-2023 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2203444)
Note that, if you see a product advertised on television, and they give you a website to order it, you should always check Amazon for the same product. Often, you can buy the exact same product from Amazon for a lower price and with free and faster shipping. Sometimes, it is even being sold by the same company.

Another use for Amazon is that, if you are buying an in-stock electronic product or appliance from Best Buy, you can check the price on Amazon, and Best Buy will match the Amazon price. I have done that several times.

One of Best Buy’s biggest headaches (at least up north before I moved here) was “showrooming”. People would go there to see the electronics and ask questions, then go home and order the product they wanted from Amazon for less money than Best Buy would charge.

Is Amazon becoming a monopoly? They’ve forced substantial changes in marketing which for the most part have benefited the consumer, but if they become the only game in town, so to speak, those “bargains” might not be quite as attractive. I saw an example of this during the height of the pandemic. I’ve dabbled in amateur astronomy and sold a telescope about two years back for about the same price I paid for it, but like for a lot of other items, telescopes were getting hard to come by. The same telescope, on Amazon, which originally listed for $299.00 was later being sold for more than twice that amount on Amazon. Price came down again when more telescopes were available.

retiredguy123 04-01-2023 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2203454)
One of Best Buy’s biggest headaches (at least up north before I moved here) was “showrooming”. People would go there to see the electronics and ask questions, then go home and order the product they wanted from Amazon for less money than Best Buy would charge.

Is Amazon becoming a monopoly? They’ve forced substantial changes in marketing which for the most part have benefited the consumer, but if they become the only game in town, so to speak, those “bargains” might not be quite as attractive. I saw an example of this during the height of the pandemic. I’ve dabbled in amateur astronomy and sold a telescope about two years back for about the same price I paid for it, but like for a lot of other items, telescopes were getting hard to come by. The same telescope, on Amazon, which originally listed for $299.00 was later being sold for more than twice that amount on Amazon. Price came down again when more telescopes were available.

I don't feel sorry for Best Buy. The employees who sell the products are not trained to provide unbiased, helpful, or technically accurate answers to questions. They are trained to sell the products that will make the most profit for the store. But, I will often buy a product from Best Buy if it is in stock, and they will match the Amazon price.

RedChariot 04-01-2023 08:14 AM

Amazon rocks! So many perks with Amazon Prime! Why would I go store to store in this awful traffic searching for a product? Just a click away on Amazon.

ithos 04-01-2023 08:17 AM

I highly recommend checking with Home Depot and Lowes online before ordering from Amazon. Usually no shipping charge.

If they have it in stock locally, you will probably get it quicker than from Amazon.

Tom M 04-01-2023 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2203454)
One of Best Buy’s biggest headaches (at least up north before I moved here) was “showrooming”. People would go there to see the electronics and ask questions, then go home and order the product they wanted from Amazon for less money than Best Buy would charge.


I believe many places (Walmart, Best Buy, etc. will price match whatever you see on Amazon). If you're in the store and see it on Amazon for lower, bring your phone to a manager and they'll price match.

ThirdOfFive 04-01-2023 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom M (Post 2203469)
I believe many places (Walmart, Best Buy, etc. will price match whatever you see on Amazon). If you're in the store and see it on Amazon for lower, bring your phone to a manager and they'll price match.

Yes—I think Best Buy adopted that policy specifically because of showrooming.

Tvflguy 04-01-2023 09:03 AM

We are not Prime members but Amazon is our go-to. It’s simply too easy. Too efficient. Too fast. Too everything.

Still amazes me that I can order roach bait, a magnetic door catch, eye drops, and a spool of wire.

3-5 days later, it’s all boxed and delivered nicely to our front door with no shipping charge. How they can sort all innocuous items and get her in one box still amazes me.

Yes, Amazon is too easy.

retiredguy123 04-01-2023 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ithos (Post 2203461)
I highly recommend checking with Home Depot and Lowes online before ordering from Amazon. Usually no shipping charge.

If they have it in stock locally, you will probably get it quicker than from Amazon.

That may be true for some items, but generally, Lowes and Home Depot cannot compete with Amazon on deliveries. Almost all Amazon deliveries are free, sometimes the same day. Lowes and Home Depot both charge a delivery fee for a delivery within less than 3 days.

I recently ordered some 3M Command strips from Amazon and got them the same day with free shipping. The Home Depot same day delivery fee was $8.99 for an $11 item.

rrdsg 04-01-2023 09:30 AM

Target will also price match Amazon.

Nucky 04-01-2023 09:41 AM

Third party sellers are ruining Amazon. Remember the good old days when Amazon was flawless? I do.

Amazon chooses to use these sellers, they cause a whole lot of problems and effort to straighten out the boneheaded things that they do. In the end it actually works out nicely for me. They pay for the time I spend trying to straighten out the foul ups, bleeps and blunders. I get an amount added to my gift card account for each trip to return something that is disappointing to me. If it doesn’t do the exact thing that it promises in the description then it’s game on.
I give you my word that in the last seven years we have not paid for Prime for six of those years. I document everything and read it all back to the agent about two or three weeks before The Yearly Prime Payment is Due. I am always prepared to cancel the account if they don’t do what I request. One year I had to do just that, cancel. No big deal. Opened an account the following week in my wife’s name.
Don’t mess with my time Amazon or you will be paying us.
I prefer to buy locally but admit that I’m an Amazonaholic!

ldj1938 04-01-2023 09:55 AM

They have a senior discount on prime.

retiredguy123 04-01-2023 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ldj1938 (Post 2203505)
They have a senior discount on prime.

Not true. From the Amazon website:

Amazon Prime does not offer a senior discount. However, those with valid EBT or Medicaid cards are eligible for $5.99 a month for a maximum of four years. To see if you qualify for the discounted membership, visit amazon.com/qualify.

Boomer 04-01-2023 10:06 AM

Of course, I use Amazon.

I hate the fact that Amazon has put so many bookstores out of business, but have I been ordering books from Amazon for years? Guilty.

I hate the fact that so many suburban areas are now full of empty retail space in strip malls and in big malls. But do I order clothes and shoes online? Guilty.

I hate the fact that the modern need for instant gratification has been so perfectly played by Amazon, wiping out more of the competition every day. But do I keep on ordering from Amazon? Guilty.

Amazon has grown so many arms and legs that there will be no catching it and then it will be ONLY AMAZON. But, here I am. Guilty.

………I have wondered about the effect Amazon has had on REITs as investments. I have never been into REITs, but I remember when people talked about REITs as a good investment. (I also remember when people thought if they individually owned commercial property in the ‘burbs or small towns, they were set for life. Now?)

One of the reasons I never liked REITs was because for the past 12-15 years, I have observed more and more bleak and barren retail space. So how are those retail REITs doing?

And speaking of REITs, the working from home thing has been working so well that people do not want to go back into the office. There was a story recently on one of my hometown news sites that talked about the big hit office space was taking. REITs are invested in office buildings. How is that working now?………..

But I digress…..that sure was a leap to REITs…….


Boomer the OverThinker

Garywt 04-01-2023 10:19 AM

I try to avoid Amazon as much as possible. If I am ordering online I always try Walmart and Target etc first. Unfortunately Amazon is the only place to find some items.

retiredguy123 04-01-2023 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 2203511)
Of course, I use Amazon.

I hate the fact that Amazon has put so many bookstores out of business, but have I been ordering books from Amazon for years? Guilty.

I hate the fact that so many suburban areas are now full of empty retail space in strip malls and in big malls. But do I order clothes and shoes online? Guilty.

I hate the fact that the modern need for instant gratification has been so perfectly played by Amazon, wiping out more of the competition every day? But do I keep on ordering from Amazon? Guilty.

Amazon has grown so many arms and legs that there will be no catching it and then it will be ONLY AMAZON. But, here I am. Guilty.

………I have wondered about the effect Amazon has had on REITs as investments. I have never been into REITs, but I remember when people talked about REITs as a good investment. (I also remember when people thought if they individually owned commercial property in the ‘burbs or small towns, they were set for life. Now?)

One of the reasons I never liked REITs was because for the past 12-15 years, I have observed more and more bleak and barren retail space. So how are those retail REITs doing?

And speaking of REITs, the working from home thing has been working so well that people do not want to go back into the office. There was a story recently on one of my hometown news sites that talked about the big hit office space was taking. REITs are invested in office buildings. How is that working now?………..

But I digress…..that sure was a leap to REITs…….


Boomer the OverThinker

The best way to make money with an REIT is to start your own. Write a prospectus, name yourself as the general manager with a huge salary, find a broker to sell shares, and let the investors take all the risk. That has always been my issue with REITs. No risk or accountability for those who create it and operate it.


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