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FenneyFanatic 04-06-2023 12:29 PM

New 7-11 at Magnolia Plaza
 
A gentlemen just posted that he looked at the pumps and found no sign of golf cart gas. I hope this is not true. Thoughts?

bsloan1960 04-06-2023 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by FenneyFanatic (Post 2204905)
A gentlemen just posted that he looked at the pumps and found no sign of golf cart gas. I hope this is not true. Thoughts?

Haven't moved to TV yet. Do golf carts take special gas?

FenneyFanatic 04-06-2023 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bsloan1960 (Post 2204911)
Haven't moved to TV yet. Do golf carts take special gas?

The manufacturer recommends non-ethanol gasoline..

Bill14564 04-06-2023 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FenneyFanatic (Post 2204905)
A gentlemen just posted that he looked at the pumps and found no sign of golf cart gas. I hope this is not true. Thoughts?

1. "Regular" gas works fine for my cart
2. Rather than looking at the pumps or asking here, step inside and ask the attendant
3. There have been several threads with information on where to find non-ethanol gas in the Villages if you really want that

Bill14564 04-06-2023 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bsloan1960 (Post 2204911)
Haven't moved to TV yet. Do golf carts take special gas?

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Originally Posted by FenneyFanatic (Post 2204913)
The manufacturer recommends non-ethanol gasoline..

Which manufacturer is that? My 2019 Yamaha doesn't require non-ethanol.

ohioshooter 04-06-2023 12:48 PM

I wouldn’t swear to it, but I think the newer EFI cars don’t require non-ethanol gas. I really don’t care since I own 2 electric cars.

FenneyFanatic 04-06-2023 12:52 PM

From the Villages Golf Cart website:

How does Ethanol affect my Golf Car?
Ethanol attracts and absorbs water from the air and can lead to rust and contamination in your engine. If ethanol gas sits for a period of time, it can separate (gas from water) and cause the engine to suck up water instead of fuel, leading to serious engine damage.

ohioshooter 04-06-2023 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by FenneyFanatic (Post 2204921)
From the Villages Golf Cart website:

How does Ethanol affect my Golf Car?
Ethanol attracts and absorbs water from the air and can lead to rust and contamination in your engine. If ethanol gas sits for a period of time, it can separate (gas from water) and cause the engine to suck up water instead of fuel, leading to serious engine damage.

You put it in your automobile every time you fill up, what’s the difference?

Bill14564 04-06-2023 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by FenneyFanatic (Post 2204921)
From the Villages Golf Cart website:

How does Ethanol affect my Golf Car?
Ethanol attracts and absorbs water from the air and can lead to rust and contamination in your engine. If ethanol gas sits for a period of time, it can separate (gas from water) and cause the engine to suck up water instead of fuel, leading to serious engine damage.

They don't manufacture golf carts, they sell golf carts... and non-ethanol gas.

Papa_lecki 04-06-2023 01:41 PM

There is probably one or two pumps with non ethanol.
The 7-11 by brownwood has at least 1 - it is marked non ethanol.

Did your ‘friend” check all the pumps or just 1 or 2.

villagetinker 04-06-2023 02:00 PM

Our 2017 Yamaha Quietech specifies E10 gas, the same as what is used in your car. We have been using this since we bought the cart with no problems.

Deckboat234 04-06-2023 02:54 PM

Our 2018 Yamaha takes up to 10% ethanol and 87 octane per the owners manual. I just use the normal 87 octane and no problems. Golf cart gas is just a higher octane non ethanol gas. If you don't use your cart for 3 to 4 months you may want to use that in the tank before you park it.

Babubhat 04-06-2023 03:15 PM

The myth continues. Only should prefer non ethanol if you don’t drive cart on a regular basis

Garywt 04-06-2023 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FenneyFanatic (Post 2204905)
A gentlemen just posted that he looked at the pumps and found no sign of golf cart gas. I hope this is not true. Thoughts?

I have always just used regular gas in my cart. Doesn’t the golf cart store have gas, I know the others do.

Number 10 GI 04-06-2023 04:40 PM

Is the 7-11 operating now? I just drove by there today and it didn't look to me that they selling anything.

JMintzer 04-06-2023 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FenneyFanatic (Post 2204913)
The manufacturer recommends non-ethanol gasoline..

Ruh, Roh... You just said "BeetleJuice" 3 times...

Fact is, per the manufacturer: "Use only regular grade unleaded (87 octane) fuel. Never use fuel that contains more than 10 percent ethanol..."

JMintzer 04-06-2023 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Babubhat (Post 2204965)
The myth continues. Only should prefer non ethanol if you don’t drive cart on a regular basis

Or, just put a squirt of "Sta-bil" in the tank when you leave the cart sitting for an extended period of time...

JMintzer 04-06-2023 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Garywt (Post 2204971)
I have always just used regular gas in my cart. Doesn’t the gold cart store have gas, I know the others do.

Not the one in Magnolia Plaza. No gas pumps...

ohioshooter 04-06-2023 05:04 PM

I just hope that this station is fairly priced. We were out driving the other day and noticed $.30 difference in regular gas prices between Circle K stations at different locations. This 7/11 station will be the most convenient for us.

Altavia 04-06-2023 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ohioshooter (Post 2204994)
I just hope that this station is fairly priced. We were out driving the other day and noticed $.30 difference in regular gas prices between Circle K stations at different locations. This 7/11 station will be the most convenient for us.

Fuel Your Rewards | 7-Eleven




On your first 7 trips you'll save 11¢/gal. After that you'll receive everyday savings of 5¢/gal*. Check the 'Find a store' section and the 7-Eleven app will filter fuel loyalty locations near you.

ohioshooter 04-06-2023 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2204995)
Fuel Your Rewards | 7-Eleven




On your first 7 trips you'll save 11¢/gal. After that you'll receive everyday savings of 5¢/gal*. Check the 'Find a store' section and the 7-Eleven app will filter fuel loyalty locations near you.

Thank you. I appreciate what you are trying to say, but we have a Circle K rewards card which only gives you the cash price at that particular station. It doesn’t correct the $.30 difference between stations. We plan on getting the 7/11 rewards card.

Freehiker 04-07-2023 06:24 AM

Newer golf carts do not require special gas. Just fill it up with reg unleaded and move on.

NoMo50 04-07-2023 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by FenneyFanatic (Post 2204913)
The manufacturer recommends non-ethanol gasoline..

Actually...no, they don't. At least Yamaha does not. But, if you really want to spend the extra money, there is an easy way to identify the non-ethanol pumps at a glance. The color of the pump handle cover will usually tell you:

Black cover = Regular unleaded
Green cover = Diesel
Blue cover = Non-ethanol

Robbb 04-07-2023 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by FenneyFanatic (Post 2204913)
The manufacturer recommends non-ethanol gasoline..

Are you sure about that? All the small Yamaha engines that I am familiar with are all designed to use ethanol. In fact non-ethanol fuels are very difficult to find in many areas.

mrf0151 04-07-2023 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by FenneyFanatic (Post 2204913)
The manufacturer recommends non-ethanol gasoline..

Actually, on page 6-2 of the Yamaha owner's manual it only states unleaded fuel. Non-ethanol is smart for sure or if using regular 87 octane recommended fuel then one is wise to use the Star-Tron ethanol additive. Note that these Yamaha engines are LOW compression and that use of octane higher than 87 can leave carbon deposits in the engine. This eventually will lead to a poor power issue.


Since 2017, increasingly more opinions have been expressed that ethanol fuels may not be the best fuel for golf carts. This has come around due to mechanical issues seen in golf carts like stalling, exhaust smoke, clogged carburetors, damaged fuel pumps, and dissolving of rubber components.

Ethanol attracts water, and if your cart doesn’t burn through it within about three months of filling, the ethanol can be corrosive in the engine, and this can cause performance and mechanical issues.

Not only that, but when the water suspended in the gas experiences rapid temperature changes and does separate from the gas, it lowers the octane level by around 4 points, so can 87 octane is now only an 83 octane.

Smaller engines with carburetors like golf carts were not designed to work with the 10% ethanol (E-10) content, reducing fuel efficiency considerably. It affects efficient combustion in the engine, causing stalling and a rough-running engine.

As ethanol in the fuel tank ages, it promotes the build of gum, leading to clogging in the carburetor and fuel filter, which will decrease the power and performance.

John Mayes 04-07-2023 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Babubhat (Post 2204965)
The myth continues. Only should prefer non ethanol if you don’t drive cart on a regular basis

Bingo!!!

Altavia 04-07-2023 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by mrf0151 (Post 2205079)
Actually, on page 6-2 of the Yamaha owner's manual it only states unleaded fuel. Non-ethanol is smart for sure or if using regular 87 octane recommended fuel then one is wise to use the Star-Tron ethanol additive. Note that these Yamaha engines are LOW compression and that use of octane higher than 87 can leave carbon deposits in the engine. This eventually will lead to a poor power issue.


Since 2017, increasingly more opinions have been expressed that ethanol fuels may not be the best fuel for golf carts. This has come around due to mechanical issues seen in golf carts like stalling, exhaust smoke, clogged carburetors, damaged fuel pumps, and dissolving of rubber components.

Ethanol attracts water, and if your cart doesn’t burn through it within about three months of filling, the ethanol can be corrosive in the engine, and this can cause performance and mechanical issues.

Not only that, but when the water suspended in the gas experiences rapid temperature changes and does separate from the gas, it lowers the octane level by around 4 points, so can 87 octane is now only an 83 octane.

Smaller engines with carburetors like golf carts were not designed to work with the 10% ethanol (E-10) content, reducing fuel efficiency considerably. It affects efficient combustion in the engine, causing stalling and a rough-running engine.

As ethanol in the fuel tank ages, it promotes the build of gum, leading to clogging in the carburetor and fuel filter, which will decrease the power and performance.

Good info, I'll add the Floridian high humidity and temperatures are likey to accelerate degradation of fuel containing ethanol.

So higher risk of you don't refill regularly.

Altavia 04-07-2023 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by FenneyFanatic (Post 2204905)
A gentlemen just posted that he looked at the pumps and found no sign of golf cart gas. I hope this is not true. Thoughts?

From the most recent GoldWingnut video, your can see the different colors of the fuel tank filling covers.

Including blue which I believe is for E0 recreational fuel around here.

DonH57 04-07-2023 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2204914)
1. "Regular" gas works fine for my cart
2. Rather than looking at the pumps or asking here, step inside and ask the attendant
3. There have been several threads with information on where to find non-ethanol gas in the Villages if you really want that

I was wondering what golf cart gas was. Regular was all we ever use in both of ours. Never have any problems losing power or mileage between tank fills. I examine the sparks plugs every 6 months and barely have to clean them when I check the gap.

Bill14564 04-07-2023 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DonH57 (Post 2205100)
I was wondering what golf cart gas was. Regular was all we ever use in both of ours. Never have any problems losing power or mileage between tank fills. I examine the sparks plugs every 6 months and barely have to clean them when I check the gap.

We are probably all old enough to remember when "regular" meant leaded. Now that everything is unleaded, "regular" means with ethanol and "golf cart gas" generally refers to non-ethanol. I do not feel a need to pay extra for the non-ethanol.

I just checked my spark plug for the first time in three years (about 4,000 miles). I was surprised at how clean it was, it looked almost new.

Gatorgreen 04-07-2023 11:19 AM

Gatorgreen
 
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Originally Posted by Deckboat234 (Post 2204960)
Our 2018 Yamaha takes up to 10% ethanol and 87 octane per the owners manual. I just use the normal 87 octane and no problems. Golf cart gas is just a higher octane non ethanol gas. If you don't use your cart for 3 to 4 months you may want to use that in the tank before you park it.

bingo!

Bilyclub 04-07-2023 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by NoMo50 (Post 2205043)
Actually...no, they don't. At least Yamaha does not. But, if you really want to spend the extra money, there is an easy way to identify the non-ethanol pumps at a glance. The color of the pump handle cover will usually tell you:

Black cover = Regular unleaded
Green cover = Diesel
Blue cover = Non-ethanol


At the 7-11 located at Powell and 44A, the pump handles for regular and non-ethanol are both black.

maggie1 04-08-2023 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2204991)
Or, just put a squirt of "Sta-bil" in the tank when you leave the cart sitting for an extended period of time...

Exactly! We've left our Yamaha on a trickle charger and a prescribed amount of fuel stabilizer in the fuel tank and have never had a problem getting it up and running even after we've been gone for six months.

jimdecastro 04-08-2023 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 2204988)
Is the 7-11 operating now? I just drove by there today and it didn't look to me that they selling anything.

NOT open.

westernrider75 04-08-2023 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by FenneyFanatic (Post 2204905)
A gentlemen just posted that he looked at the pumps and found no sign of golf cart gas. I hope this is not true. Thoughts?

Not true. The red handled pumps are ethanol free and they exist at the new station.

terryf484 04-08-2023 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by FenneyFanatic (Post 2204905)
A gentlemen just posted that he looked at the pumps and found no sign of golf cart gas. I hope this is not true. Thoughts?

I go by there pretty often and I see red pump handles on the pumps on the end of islands. I assume that means there will be non ethanol gas at those pumps.

GizmoWhiskers 04-08-2023 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by FenneyFanatic (Post 2204905)
A gentlemen just posted that he looked at the pumps and found no sign of golf cart gas. I hope this is not true. Thoughts?

Golf Cart Gas... funny, a "secret potion" sold by T V.

Been using regular unleaded gas in my Yamaha G C for years with no problems.

AnneD 04-08-2023 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Babubhat (Post 2204965)
The myth continues. Only should prefer non ethanol if you don’t drive cart on a regular basis

That’s what I was told when I bought my golf cart too

Minoletti 04-08-2023 06:43 AM

if i get the hot dog off the roller,
 
if i get the hot dog off the roller, i get non ethanol gas just sayin......

bowlingal 04-08-2023 06:59 AM

regular gas is fine. Only if you leave your cart sitting for months, do you need non-ethanol.


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