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Vershire 04-10-2023 07:49 AM
Shaking in Monarch Grove
 
The Villages has taken steps to stop the utilization of vibrating rollers close to our properties that was wreaking havoc. Thanks for all the suggestions.

ScottGo 04-10-2023 08:59 AM
Morgan & Morgan

wisbad1 04-10-2023 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Vershire (Post 2205977)
We live in the southernmost section of Monarch Grove, on the fenceline and have had a front line seat for the newest development in the Villages these past few years. Like all of the southernmost villages, we have endured the past two years of respiratory issues related to dustbowl conditions and burning of trees at times. There were plenty of opportunities to complain about the 3:30 am wake ups as they started and moved their machinery and/or refueled with spotlights shining into our windows. We didn't like the 9 months of mining operations as they hauled out hundreds of loads of dirt from this land to somewhere else but we endured it. That all changed this weekend. As they work to prepare the sites and roads that they literally are building on top of our property lines, they are using large tamping rollers that compact the earth beneath them. Works great to make a road, but when they are 30 feet behind your house it causes the whole house to shake. The light fixtures, ductwork, windows, etc. just shake and there is one heck of a din that scares pets and adults alike. Its also doing wonders for our pools and decks and windows, many of us have cracks that have developed or seals that have broken. Yes, we knew we would have construction behind but none of us bargained for destruction of our precious homes. Suggestions on who to complain to? We have tried the Villages, Rainey and the City of Wildwood thus far.
Morgan and Morgan

Bilyclub 04-10-2023 09:07 AM
Have fun finding a law firm that will take on TV.

asianthree 04-10-2023 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by wisbad1 (Post 2206001)
Morgan and Morgan
Not going to happen.

villagetinker 04-10-2023 09:13 AM
I would document the damage, and then contact Sumter County Building department, In a previous life, the company I worked for had sensitive equipment, and when another company was going to open a new mine in the area, there were strick ground vibration rules to be followed, and we even had monitors installed. No idea if there are requirements here.

Papa_lecki 04-10-2023 09:17 AM
So you bought a house in a spot where you knew there was going to be a lot of construction, now you’re complaining about the construction?

Not as bad as
buying next to the turnpike and complaining about the turnpike noise
or
Buying next to an entertainment venue (sawgrass) and complaining about the music.

So, probably number 3 on the list.

Bill14564 04-10-2023 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2206012)
So you bought a house in a spot where you knew there was going to be a lot of construction, now you’re complaining about the construction?

Not as bad as
buying next to the turnpike and complaining about the turnpike noise
or
Buying next to an entertainment venue (sawgrass) and complaining about the music.

So, probably number 3 on the list.
Not sure you can consider every undeveloped piece of land as a spot where there is going to be a lot of construction. Or maybe that's the way it is in Florida.

There is a big difference between causing annoyance and causing damage. The OP did not complain when the work was annoying. The OP should not have to foot the bill when the work causes damage.

I wonder if the insurance companies would get involved in that. Though in Florida there would be a chance of your insurance being dropped or rates going up.

Two Bills 04-10-2023 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2206012)
So you bought a house in a spot where you knew there was going to be a lot of construction, now you’re complaining about the construction?

Not as bad as
buying next to the turnpike and complaining about the turnpike noise
or
Buying next to an entertainment venue (sawgrass) and complaining about the music.

So, probably number 3 on the list.
If you read the OP you would have seen they were prepared for, and put up with normal construction, but that does not mean the should have to put up with damage from that construction

I would go and see the site manager and see what can be done to alleviate the cause of the damage, and if you get the push off, see his boss, and keep going up the chain until you get an answer, and recompense.

fdpaq0580 04-10-2023 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2206027)
If you read the OP you would have seen they were prepared for, and put up with normal construction, but that does not mean the should have to put up with damage from that construction

I would go and see the site manager and see what can be done to alleviate the cause of the damage, and if you get the push off, see his boss, and keep going up the chain until you get an answer, and recompense.
Site Mgr has deadlines from the people that pay him or her. Even IF (big if) they they sympathize, the best you will.get is lip service.

Two Bills 04-10-2023 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2206040)
Site Mgr has deadlines from the people that pay him or her. Even IF (big if) they they sympathize, the best you will.get is lip service.
Lip service? Then go higher.
Get and show a damage report, and get repair or recompense.
**** deadlines.

coralway 04-10-2023 02:30 PM
Get some legal advice. Sounds like you have damages

Altavia 04-10-2023 02:35 PM
You'll be within a mile or so of Sawgrass and Eastport plus 8-10 golf courses.

The value of your home will increase substantially a year from now when this is complete.

Normal 04-10-2023 02:49 PM
File an insurance claim pronto, like yesterday. They will do the legwork and have the financial means to get things done in your favor. You wouldn’t be the first in this circumstance they have had to work with. Most insurance companies are much larger in financial backing (I.e Progressive worth about 60 Billion) than the Villages. If the contractor building next to you can’t make things right, get er done!

Arctic Fox 04-10-2023 03:27 PM
Get your neighbors to join you in a law suit

A law company might not take on TV if it's just you for whom they "may" win damages, but if they have many people...

Stu from NYC 04-10-2023 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2206106)
File an insurance claim pronto, like yesterday. They will do the legwork and have the financial means to get things done in your favor. You wouldn’t be the first in this circumstance they have had to work with. Most insurance companies are much larger in financial backing (I.e Progressive worth about 60 Billion) than the Villages. If the contractor building next to you can’t make things right, get er done!
I would reach out to the developer pronto before filing lawsuit or insurance claim.

Insurance companies get rather upset when you file claims and have been known to quickly raise rates or say bye.

bimmertl 04-10-2023 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2206106)
File an insurance claim pronto, like yesterday. They will do the legwork and have the financial means to get things done in your favor. You wouldn’t be the first in this circumstance they have had to work with. Most insurance companies are much larger in financial backing (I.e Progressive worth about 60 Billion) than the Villages. If the contractor building next to you can’t make things right, get er done!
Most likely not a covered loss. It's not a direct loss to the insured property, as the damage
happened over time and it's damage caused by ground movement which is normally not covered.

tophcfa 04-10-2023 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2206090)
Exactly where should they have looked to learn that there would be heavy construction performed near their home using equipment that would cause vibrations that would cause damage to their property?
It’s safe to say that unless you are completely surrounded by homes and or wildlife preserves that legally can never be built on, you should always assume heavy construction could eventually happen near your home. Look no further than the poor residents who paid a premium to live near the former Hacienda Hills clubhouse, restaurant, pool, tennis course, postal station, etc… who thought they were safe. They now live in the middle of a construction zone with dangerous traffic issues.

PVR 04-11-2023 04:29 AM
This isn't new. When we moved here in 2005 we had red dirt dust for months and continual construction. Once built out it was great except for the tornado, then construction again. It's the way it is and we knew our area wasn't the last to be built.

Worldseries27 04-11-2023 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by bilyclub (Post 2206004)
have fun finding a law firm that will take on tv.
exactly.

Travelhunter123 04-11-2023 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2206012)
So you bought a house in a spot where you knew there was going to be a lot of construction, now you’re complaining about the construction?

Not as bad as
buying next to the turnpike and complaining about the turnpike noise
or
Buying next to an entertainment venue (sawgrass) and complaining about the music.

So, probably number 3 on the list.
Guess we are not as smart as you

mickey100 04-11-2023 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2206118)
I would reach out to the developer pronto before filing lawsuit or insurance claim.

Insurance companies get rather upset when you file claims and have been known to quickly raise rates or say bye.
I would contact the Construction Company supervisor. Generally, any damage occurring as a result of their construction practices would be covered by the Construction Company's insurance.

rsmurano 04-11-2023 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2206050)
Lip service? Then go higher.
Get and show a damage report, and get repair or recompense.
**** deadlines.
How do you know there was any damage? Did you see the word “damage” in the OP’s post? I didn’t, wreak havoc could mean losing nap time to getting startled. Also, I’m sure the OP isn’t the only person in that village and where are all the other complaints about “wreak havoc”?

Bill14564 04-11-2023 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by rsmurano (Post 2206202)
How do you know there was any damage? Did you see the word “damage” in the OP’s post? I didn’t, wreak havoc could mean losing nap time to getting startled. Also, I’m sure the OP isn’t the only person in that village and where are all the other complaints about “wreak havoc”?
You're late to the party and missed it.

I don't see the word "damage" in post #1 either. However, what I do see is the phrase "Last edited by Vershire; Yesterday at 04:43 PM.." Some might take that as an indication that the current text of post #1 isn't the original text and hesitate before creating a snarky reply.

Altavia 04-11-2023 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Vershire (Post 2205977)
The Villages has taken steps to stop the utilization of vibrating rollers close to our properties that was wreaking havoc. Thanks for all the suggestions.
Glad you got it mitigated so quickly, thanks for letting us know.

Our days as pioneers on the new frontier will be behind us in about a year.

Fastskiguy 04-11-2023 07:49 AM
What kind of damage are we talking about here? I live in Linden South (just north of Monarch Grove) and haven't felt anything nor heard of anybody feeling anything.

Joe

GizmoWhiskers 04-11-2023 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by PVR (Post 2206176)
This isn't new. When we moved here in 2005 we had red dirt dust for months and continual construction. Once built out it was great except for the tornado, then construction again. It's the way it is and we knew our area wasn't the last to be built.
But did your home experience damage? OP is not talking about inconvenience.

mickey100 04-11-2023 10:48 AM
I thought I read somewhere that there was concrete cracking?

Marathon Man 04-11-2023 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by mickey100 (Post 2206298)
I thought I read somewhere that there was concrete cracking?
I thought I read somewhere that a Costco was coming.

asianthree 04-11-2023 11:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rsmurano (Post 2206202)
How do you know there was any damage? Did you see the word “damage” in the OP’s post? I didn’t, wreak havoc could mean losing nap time to getting startled. Also, I’m sure the OP isn’t the only person in that village and where are all the other complaints about “wreak havoc”?
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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2206203)
You're late to the party and missed it.

I don't see the word "damage" in post #1 either. However, what I do see is the phrase "Last edited by Vershire; Yesterday at 04:43 PM.." Some might take that as an indication that the current text of post #1 isn't the original text and hesitate before creating a snarky reply.
OP changed original post and deleted about 2/3. Part of original post was….

In her original post it said “ that the machinery caused the whole house to shake the light fixtures, duck work, and windows just shake and there is one heck of a din that scares pets and adults alike. I think (din) a misspelling.”

Next sentence states ‘that it also doing wonders for our pools decks and windows many of us have cracks that Have developed, or seals that have broken.”

Fastskiguy 04-11-2023 01:45 PM
So it’s possible the cracks formed but are unrelated to the machinery?. We have cracks here and there but no vibrations.

Two Bills 04-11-2023 01:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rsmurano (Post 2206202)
How do you know there was any damage? Did you see the word “damage” in the OP’s post? I didn’t, wreak havoc could mean losing nap time to getting startled. Also, I’m sure the OP isn’t the only person in that village and where are all the other complaints about “wreak havoc”?
From original post. Since edited by OP.

"Works great to make a road, but when they are 30 feet behind your house it causes the whole house to shake. The light fixtures, ductwork, windows, etc. just shake and there is one heck of a din that scares pets and adults alike. Its also doing wonders for our pools and decks and windows, many of us have cracks that have developed or seals that have broken. Yes, we knew we would have construction behind but none of us bargained for destruction of our precious homes. Suggestions on who to complain to? We have tried the Villages, Rainey and the City of Wildwood thus far."

"Just the facts, ma'am"

tophcfa 04-11-2023 08:40 PM
Pick your poison. Deal with the results of the heavy equipment that compacts the soil or don’t properly compact the soil and risk a future sinkhole opening up near your home?

cullen12 04-12-2023 09:37 AM
Shouldn't have moved down there, too much noise from the turnpike. It's only going to get worse.

asianthree 04-12-2023 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by cullen12 (Post 2206550)
Shouldn't have moved down there, too much noise from the turnpike. It's only going to get worse.
I live 4 streets from the turnpike, how close are you, that your first hand knowledge from the front, back or inside of your home, is getting worse

jimjamuser 04-12-2023 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by cullen12 (Post 2206550)
Shouldn't have moved down there, too much noise from the turnpike. It's only going to get worse.
The Villages model is designed to emphasize constructing new Villages. Before you sign to BUY a house, you are golden and will be listened to intently by the real estate agents - after the sale they shake your hand and you are past history to them. It is probably just the nature of the time-value of a RAPIDLY expanding real estate market. It will be a struggle to get them to GO BACK and engage in quality control efforts.
People want desperately to be involved with the newest thing, gadget, or newest Village. It gives some bragging rights for their innovation and frontier advancement mentality. But, NEWNESS comes with problems normally.
......But don't feel too bad, there are unresolved physical problems STILL in even the northmost Villages!

jimjamuser 04-12-2023 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2206571)
I live 4 streets from the turnpike, how close are you, that your first hand knowledge from the front, back or inside of your home, is getting worse
Some people seem immune to noise and automotive pollution. I have always been sensitive to those things.


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