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rsetterlund 04-21-2023 10:32 AM

Gates in the Villages
 
Many individuals are suggesting ways to reduce the number of auto gate stricks. My recommendation is to replace the gates with aggressive speed bumps, which will slow down the cars to allow time for golf carts to cross the auto roads. Let's face it The Villages is not a gated community, it is a community of gates.

rsimpson 04-21-2023 10:43 AM

All for it.
 
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Originally Posted by rsetterlund (Post 2209693)
Many individuals are suggesting ways to reduce the number of auto gate stricks. My recommendation is to replace the gates with aggressive speed bumps, which will slow down the cars to allow time for golf carts to cross the auto roads. Let's face it The Villages is not a gated community, it is a community of gates.

Do both - gates and bumps, and while we're at it, put a secret password on the entry gate that each village can change every two weeks Just Kidding on the passwords - lol. The new gates on Meggison Rd down by Cirtus Grove need speed bumps for sure. The gates are too far from the Cart Crossing - someone will be killed there soon with the cars/trucks gaining too much speed after passing the gates.

golfing eagles 04-21-2023 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by rsetterlund (Post 2209693)
Many individuals are suggesting ways to reduce the number of auto gate stricks. My recommendation is to replace the gates with aggressive speed bumps, which will slow down the cars to allow time for golf carts to cross the auto roads. Let's face it The Villages is not a gated community, it is a community of gates.

You do realize that most of those that admit to hitting a gate state they didn't see it. If they can't see a red and white gate arm at eye level right in front of them, what chance do they have of seeing a speed bump??????

MrFlorida 04-21-2023 11:10 AM

Get your cataracts fixed.

Bill14564 04-21-2023 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by rsetterlund (Post 2209693)
Many individuals are suggesting ways to reduce the number of auto gate stricks. My recommendation is to replace the gates with aggressive speed bumps, which will slow down the cars to allow time for golf carts to cross the auto roads. Let's face it The Villages is not a gated community, it is a community of gates.

Have any of those many individuals admitted hitting the gates? Has anyone who has hit a gate explained what caused them to hit it?

Based on what I have observed, more entrance gates get hit than exit gates. The same number of cars go through each so why the preference for hitting the entrance gates? Could it be the problem has less to do with gate visibility and more to do with the entrance gates coming down after each vehicle?

The problem with speed bumps is visibility, vehicle damage, and emergency vehicles. This has all been discussed on these forums before so to make this short:
- As others have pointed out, if you can't see a gate you won't see a speed bump either
- Going over an obstacle like a speed bump causes extra wear on vehicle suspension parts
- Speed bumps will slow emergency vehicle response times

We don't need to be a gated community but for the safety of the golf carts, bicyclists, and pedestrians, we do need the gates.

GpaVader 04-21-2023 11:56 AM

Pull out the gates and build over or under passes....

Just kidding.....

Marathon Man 04-21-2023 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rsetterlund (Post 2209693)
Many individuals are suggesting ways to reduce the number of auto gate stricks. My recommendation is to replace the gates with aggressive speed bumps, which will slow down the cars to allow time for golf carts to cross the auto roads. Let's face it The Villages is not a gated community, it is a community of gates.

You have a suggestion to make. Will be attending the next meeting of your CDD board?

fdpaq0580 04-21-2023 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MrFlorida (Post 2209714)
Get your cataracts fixed.

Did. Nearly ended up blind.

coralway 04-21-2023 05:26 PM

Remove all the gates. Don’t need gates, speed bumps or anything else. Folks are gonna drive the way they always do anyway.

golfing eagles 04-21-2023 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by coralway (Post 2209857)
Remove all the gates. Don’t need gates, speed bumps or anything else. Folks are gonna drive the way they always do anyway.

Great idea! I saw that movie——“Death Race 2000”

Sherkugawa 04-22-2023 04:28 AM

Gates
 
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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2209712)
You do realize that most of those that admit to hitting a gate state they didn't see it. If they can't see a red and white gate arm at eye level right in front of them, what chance do they have of seeing a speed bump??????

I was in the lousy driver camp until yesterday going south on Morse in bright sunshine came upon a gate in shade. I literally could not see the gate until I was almost hitting it. No, I’m not ruling out that I’m a lousy driver!

golfing eagles 04-22-2023 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Sherkugawa (Post 2209943)
I was in the lousy driver camp until yesterday going south on Morse in bright sunshine came upon a gate in shade. I literally could not see the gate until I was almost hitting it. No, I’m not ruling out that I’m a lousy driver!

Hmmmm.....a gate on Morse heading south????? I never saw that one either :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

jcreason5616 04-22-2023 05:57 AM

Gate visibility
 
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Originally Posted by Sherkugawa (Post 2209943)
I was in the lousy driver camp until yesterday going south on Morse in bright sunshine came upon a gate in shade. I literally could not see the gate until I was almost hitting it. No, I’m not ruling out that I’m a lousy driver!

My husband and I just discussed this after seeing the gate down at Lynnhaven exit facing entrance to Bridgeport. The gate is being hit constantly because it blends with the horizon and is not effectively reflective. The only solution we could think of—lame as it is—would be reflective or shiny streamers hanging from the gate arm.

birdiebill 04-22-2023 06:13 AM

All gates have an approaching sign stating 5 mph when approaching the gate. If a person can't see whether the gate is up or down at that speed, they should not be driving. Of course the problem is that many do not slow down to that speed

Jack Lefebvre 04-22-2023 06:13 AM

It’s good like it is…. Take care of your business .

mikeycereal 04-22-2023 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2209860)
great idea! I saw that movie——“death race 2000”

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...1&d=1682162433

KAM+6 04-22-2023 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2209959)
Hmmmm.....a gate on Morse heading south????? I never saw that one either :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Yes, on Morse heading south, just before 466. Unexpectedly, don't know why there is a gate there.

Bill14564 04-22-2023 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Sherkugawa (Post 2209943)
I was in the lousy driver camp until yesterday going south on Morse in bright sunshine came upon a gate in shade. I literally could not see the gate until I was almost hitting it. No, I’m not ruling out that I’m a lousy driver!

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Originally Posted by jcreason5616 (Post 2209967)
My husband and I just discussed this after seeing the gate down at Lynnhaven exit facing entrance to Bridgeport. The gate is being hit constantly because it blends with the horizon and is not effectively reflective. The only solution we could think of—lame as it is—would be reflective or shiny streamers hanging from the gate arm.

I'm not sure where there is a gate on Morse south or where the "Lynnhaven exit facing entrance to Bridgeport" is so I can't see the design of either area but I assume it is similar to other gate installations.

Help me to understand, do you suppose drivers are thinking something like this?
Well, I'm leaving Buena Vista or Morse and turning into a Village. There's the sign that says "Village of ...." There's the box next to my window with the card reader and the red button. There's the sign that says "Resident Entry." Every other Village I've entered has a gate but I don't see one here. I guess I'll just drive right on through.
Is that why the gates get hit, because people ignore the signs and the readers and the mechanisms and just drive on through?

Maker 04-22-2023 06:21 AM

Solution is to remove all the gates. Update the landscaping to provide unobstructed views of cars and carts approaching the crossing.
End the waste of money on managing the gate system - from employees (salary & benefits) to maintenance (people & equipment & vehicles to drive around) to constant costs to have the system (computers & upgrades & cards).
Stop inventing ways to spend more money on something that causes accidents.

TomSpasm 04-22-2023 06:34 AM

No to speed bumps!
 
The major problem I see with speed bumps is not the wear and tear on your cart or car, it's the thousands of people here who have bad backs that groan every time they hit a bump of any kind.

golfing eagles 04-22-2023 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by KAM+6 (Post 2209977)
Yes, on Morse heading south, just before 466. Unexpectedly, don't know why there is a gate there.

Sorry, forgot about that one

golfing eagles 04-22-2023 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Maker (Post 2209979)
Solution is to remove all the gates. Update the landscaping to provide unobstructed views of cars and carts approaching the crossing.
End the waste of money on managing the gate system - from employees (salary & benefits) to maintenance (people & equipment & vehicles to drive around) to constant costs to have the system (computers & upgrades & cards).
Stop inventing ways to spend more money on something that causes accidents.

See post #10

toeser 04-22-2023 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by rsetterlund (Post 2209693)
Many individuals are suggesting ways to reduce the number of auto gate stricks. My recommendation is to replace the gates with aggressive speed bumps, which will slow down the cars to allow time for golf carts to cross the auto roads. Let's face it The Villages is not a gated community, it is a community of gates.

I don't know how many gate arms are taken out at night, but the reflector tape used by The Villages on those arms is virtually useless. If I didn't not know the gate arms were there, I might hit one. There is far, far better reflector tape that would make the gate arms far more visible at night. 3M comes to mind.

Rderspamer 04-22-2023 06:58 AM

Yup

Bilyclub 04-22-2023 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Maker (Post 2209979)
Solution is to remove all the gates. Update the landscaping to provide unobstructed views of cars and carts approaching the crossing.
End the waste of money on managing the gate system - from employees (salary & benefits) to maintenance (people & equipment & vehicles to drive around) to constant costs to have the system (computers & upgrades & cards).
Stop inventing ways to spend more money on something that causes accidents.

The gates were here before you and I got here and do what they are supposed to do. If you travel on the MMP's when the roads are busy you would understand.

jimkerr 04-22-2023 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by rsetterlund (Post 2209693)
Many individuals are suggesting ways to reduce the number of auto gate stricks. My recommendation is to replace the gates with aggressive speed bumps, which will slow down the cars to allow time for golf carts to cross the auto roads. Let's face it The Villages is not a gated community, it is a community of gates.

How about these dummies that hit the arms learn how to drive?

Pegasusprt 04-22-2023 07:58 AM

I'll bet their eye site will get better if they are charged for taking down a gate.

JeepsterGlenn 04-22-2023 07:58 AM

Open invitation
 
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Originally Posted by Maker (Post 2209979)
Solution is to remove all the gates. Update the landscaping to provide unobstructed views of cars and carts approaching the crossing.
End the waste of money on managing the gate system - from employees (salary & benefits) to maintenance (people & equipment & vehicles to drive around) to constant costs to have the system (computers & upgrades & cards).
Stop inventing ways to spend more money on something that causes accidents.

Removing the gates would be an open invitation to everyone in Lake and Sumter county to come in and use our parks and facilities. Money saved from removing the gates will not be enough to pay the lawsuits when people unfamiliar with The Villages get injured or killed…

Two Bills 04-22-2023 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2209712)
You do realize that most of those that admit to hitting a gate state they didn't see it. If they can't see a red and white gate arm at eye level right in front of them, what chance do they have of seeing a speed bump??????

You will only hit a speed bump once at speed, unless you enjoy pain.
Gate killing is a recreation sport in TV!

airstreamingypsy 04-22-2023 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JeepsterGlenn (Post 2210053)
Removing the gates would be an open invitation to everyone in Lake and Sumter county to come in and use our parks and facilities. Money saved from removing the gates will not be enough to pay the lawsuits when people unfamiliar with The Villages get injured or killed…

The gates are stopping zero people from everywhere from coming in.

airstreamingypsy 04-22-2023 08:17 AM

I say put the silver/red reflective tape, seen on 18 wheeler trailers, on the arms.

whatsup 04-22-2023 08:20 AM

Flags
 
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Originally Posted by rsetterlund (Post 2209693)
Many individuals are suggesting ways to reduce the number of auto gate stricks. My recommendation is to replace the gates with aggressive speed bumps, which will slow down the cars to allow time for golf carts to cross the auto roads. Let's face it The Villages is not a gated community, it is a community of gates.

I do not post much but I read TV every day.
The simplest and least expensive would be to hang flags from the gate arms.

Margterrymcg 04-22-2023 08:26 AM

Gate damage
 
Add lights and sound warning like RR crossings

Nell57 04-22-2023 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by KAM+6 (Post 2209977)
Yes, on Morse heading south, just before 466. Unexpectedly, don't know why there is a gate there.

The attended Gate House that is there should have been your other visual clue. The northbound gate at 466 is the most dangerous intersection in The Villages.
That gate attendant is in constant motion.

jimdecastro 04-22-2023 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2209712)
You do realize that most of those that admit to hitting a gate state they didn't see it. If they can't see a red and white gate arm at eye level right in front of them, what chance do they have of seeing a speed bump??????

The VHA suggested this in 2022. Still waiting.

dewilson58 04-22-2023 08:55 AM

Let's hang dog poop from the gates...............Everyone sees the dog poop.

:eclipsee_gold_cup:

Joe C. 04-22-2023 09:03 AM

Aggressive Speed Bumps ??? That's all we need for our aching, bad backs. It's really a "no brainer". We all know that the gates are there, and we all know that we need to stop or at least, really slow down. The problem isn't the gates, it's the drivers. They are not paying attention, they are drunk, or just plain stupid.
Perhaps a good remedy would be to place a heavy, solid gate (maybe a telephone pole) across the road so that when someone does hit it, it will do good damage to their windshield. That way, they will remember that the gate IS there the next time they go through.

ldj1938 04-22-2023 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Pegasusprt (Post 2210050)
I'll bet their eye site will get better if they are charged for taking down a gate.

I think they charge $300.

jjombrello 04-22-2023 09:57 AM

I would suggest changing the gate color to high visability yellow and add reflective tape. When working in the mining industry, the National Safety Council found that yellow was the most visible color and all of our trucks and cars were that color. The gates could be yellow with black stripes.

Roron123 04-22-2023 09:57 AM

How about making the gate arms wider making sure people will see them 😅


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