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Buckeyephan 04-28-2023 11:35 AM

Wiping hard
 
Husband got a new computer and we’d like to recycle his old all-in-one that runs on Windows 10. What is the best way to wipe the hard drive? Thanks.

vlm790 04-28-2023 11:36 AM

Hammer

Two Bills 04-28-2023 11:45 AM

With old comps and laptops, I have always destroyed hard drive.
Nerds always seem to be able to recover stuff.
For peace of mind, I agree with the hammer solution.

GpaVader 04-28-2023 11:46 AM

When you mention recycle, does that mean you want to wipe the drive and give to someone else to use or take it to a recycle center for disposal? If you mean to reuse the computer, you will need to make sure you have a recovery disk so you can reinstall the OS after you wipe the drive. If you are going to scrap it, a drill will work or often times computers have a utility built in that will accomplish this as part of the Bios. You may need to contact the manufacturer to use this.

retiredguy123 04-28-2023 11:57 AM

Sledge hammer is the most foolproof method. A large one.

Caymus 04-28-2023 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by vlm790 (Post 2212532)
Hammer

Did that actually work for you? I tried that in the past and was not able to cause much damage. I then took it to work and smashed it in a hydraulic press.

Michael G. 04-28-2023 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2212542)
Sledge hammer is the most foolproof method. A large one.

How about other electronics, GPS, Cell phones, iPod??

villagetinker 04-28-2023 12:08 PM

I tend to take out the hard drive, with a suitable adapter you can plug it into a USB port and get that file that you forgot to move to the new computer....

retiredguy123 04-28-2023 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2212546)
How about other electronics, GPS, Cell phones, iPod??

Use a smaller hammer.

When you delete a file from a device, all you are doing is allowing the data space that the file was using to be used for another purpose, like adding another file. This is controlled by the operating system software. But, the original file that you thought you "deleted" is still there. A computer technician may be able to wipe a hard drive clean, but why risk it?

OrangeBlossomBaby 04-28-2023 12:36 PM

Remove the hard drive. It's encased in a slim metal box. Fill a casserole dish or lasagna pan 3/4 with hot water and a 1/4 cup of vinegar. Submerge the hard drive in the lasagna pan. Let it sit there a couple of minutes until the water fills the spaces in the box. Sprinkle baking soda into the water, maybe 1/8 of a cup total. Let that sit there a couple of minutes. Drain the water from the pan, then pour some table syrup, or cola, or honey, or fruit punch, into the pan and dunk the hard drive in it, turning it a few times to make sure the sticky stuff gets into the box.

Your hard drive will now be completely useless to anyone, for anything other than perhaps a door stop or ant bait.

PugMom 04-28-2023 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2212563)
Remove the hard drive. It's encased in a slim metal box. Fill a casserole dish or lasagna pan 3/4 with hot water and a 1/4 cup of vinegar. Submerge the hard drive in the lasagna pan. Let it sit there a couple of minutes until the water fills the spaces in the box. Sprinkle baking soda into the water, maybe 1/8 of a cup total. Let that sit there a couple of minutes. Drain the water from the pan, then pour some table syrup, or cola, or honey, or fruit punch, into the pan and dunk the hard drive in it, turning it a few times to make sure the sticky stuff gets into the box.

Your hard drive will now be completely useless to anyone, for anything other than perhaps a door stop or ant bait.

what a great idea! i'd have never thought of using household items to do such a thing, but makes perfect sense. i used to use bleach in a bucket of water to get rid of old bank files before the days of PC's & shredders

Velvet 04-28-2023 01:17 PM

Get a hard drive eraser dvd from Amazon, not expensive, run it twice (sometimes it allows only once) - you’ll have a usable but unrecoverable previous data drive. Back up your drive first, you’ll never recover anything afterwards.

retiredguy123 04-28-2023 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2212569)
Get a hard drive eraser dvd from Amazon, not expensive, run it twice (sometimes it allows only once) - you’ll have a usable but unrecoverable previous data drive. Back up your drive first, you’ll never recover anything afterwards.

Many computers today don't have a disc drive.

daniel200 04-28-2023 01:55 PM

Another solution: Take a ¼ inch drill and make a couple of holes in the drive.

Velvet 04-28-2023 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2212575)
Many computers today don't have a disc drive.

True, I use an external disc drive - how do you play dvds? I suppose you can drown the thing too.

Altavia 04-28-2023 02:51 PM

We used to take them to a shooting range, hook them up to a 12v battery to spin up the drive, and then (from a safe distance) put a round through them. The explosion is impressive...

But this has safer options.

Top 5 Hard Drive Destruction Methods That Actually Work

retiredguy123 04-28-2023 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2212593)
True, I use an external disc drive - how do you play dvds? I suppose you can drown the thing too.

I have an external DVD drive with a usb cable. I think it will play movies on my Windows 11 laptop, but when I tried to use it on my Samsung tablet, it will not play the disc. I guess it must need the Windows OS.

Velvet 04-28-2023 04:45 PM

Okay so water doesn’t work but the hammer does I’d put the drive into a couple of old pillow cases and a garbage bag, then hammer away. I have done it in the past and no - nothing explodes.

keepsake 04-28-2023 08:13 PM

Drill a hole through the drive and the platters.

Gotta say, the title pulled my mind into a totally difference direction. With the price of t.p. had to wonder.

Ellwoodrick 04-29-2023 04:44 AM

I personally have removed the drives from old computers. I then disassemble the drives. Very easy to do with a cordless drill and the correct star bit that fits the screws on the drive. Once you have the platters out of the drive they can be damaged beyond use.

As to erasing the drives so the computer can be used. As others have said there are programs that wipe the drives but you will need to reinstall the operating system. Nothing is foolproof other than destruction of the drive.

jrzeis@tampabay.rr.com 04-29-2023 11:37 AM

Why not keep it?
 
Reformat the drive and use it for extra storage or maybe as a backup drive. You can get an external enclosure, mount the drive in that, and use it as backup device.

retiredguy123 04-29-2023 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jrzeis@tampabay.rr.com (Post 2212891)
Reformat the drive and use it for extra storage or maybe as a backup drive. You can get an external enclosure, mount the drive in that, and use it as backup device.

That may have been good advice 20 years ago, but today, you can buy a 1TB portable hard drive for less than $20. You can even buy a thumb drive that will hold 1TB of data.

Deden 04-29-2023 11:57 AM

You can take it to best buy, they will delete your drive and discard your laptop, and or if you want to keep it. You can go to settings and delete or take it back to factory settings. I go to BestBuy. Good Luck.

Pairadocs 04-29-2023 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2212542)
Sledge hammer is the most foolproof method. A large one.

Agree, but, if that solution does not fit your needs, any of the leaders of the Villages computer club seems more than happy to help anyone, regular member or not, they always help people individually after the meeting's major presentation, solved many problems for us in the past !

retiredguy123 04-29-2023 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Deden (Post 2212900)
You can take it to best buy, they will delete your drive and discard your laptop, and or if you want to keep it. You can go to settings and delete or take it back to factory settings. I go to BestBuy. Good Luck.

I doubt that is a free service. According to Windows, it can take from several minutes to several hours to wipe a hard drive, depending on the size of the hard drive.

dadoiron 04-29-2023 02:25 PM

Won't work
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2212563)
Remove the hard drive. It's encased in a slim metal box. Fill a casserole dish or lasagna pan 3/4 with hot water and a 1/4 cup of vinegar. Submerge the hard drive in the lasagna pan. Let it sit there a couple of minutes until the water fills the spaces in the box. Sprinkle baking soda into the water, maybe 1/8 of a cup total. Let that sit there a couple of minutes. Drain the water from the pan, then pour some table syrup, or cola, or honey, or fruit punch, into the pan and dunk the hard drive in it, turning it a few times to make sure the sticky stuff gets into the box.

Your hard drive will now be completely useless to anyone, for anything other than perhaps a door stop or ant bait.

You need to break the seal. Besides that mistake the stuff your using will allow full recovery. Destroyed highly classified drives. I know.

village dreamer 04-30-2023 02:04 PM

im so glad its not about a bathroom break.......

CoachKandSportsguy 04-30-2023 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2212542)
Sledge hammer is the most foolproof method. A large one.

Fact check: TRUE

BobnBev 05-01-2023 10:53 AM

2 shots from my 45ACP did the trick.

Whitley 05-02-2023 07:19 AM

From the title I thought this post was going in a different direction. I was going to suggest getting a Japanese Toilet.

Whitley 05-02-2023 07:55 AM

From the title I thought this post was going in a different direction. I was going to suggest getting a Japanese Toilet.

Whitley 05-02-2023 07:57 AM

I hear professionals use bleach bit. On the hard drive that is, they use bleach bit. The whole toilet question is a different topic.

mikeazz 05-29-2023 07:27 PM

If you are interested in a quick, secure, and easy way to wipe a hard drive, try Darik's Boot and Nuke (dban). It is a free way to wipe a hard drive with DOD level approval. I have used it for years professionally and it has worked very well.

PoolBrews 05-30-2023 07:11 AM

All you need to do is to use the built in reset command in Windows and select the deep clean option after telling it to remove all users and files. This overwrites all areas of the drive and destroys any file info or structures.

This is how we handled the wiping of old systems at Coca Cola prior to returning them to the vendor after their 3 years of use were up.

Using a hammer or any type of physical destruction is just stupid. You can easily wipe the drive and resell the old computer.

Joeint 05-30-2023 07:48 AM

Make sure you take the drive apart and get the magnets out they are very strong and great for when you need a magnet. Take the silver platters and destroy them.

retiredguy123 05-30-2023 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by PoolBrews (Post 2222006)
All you need to do is to use the built in reset command in Windows and select the deep clean option after telling it to remove all users and files. This overwrites all areas of the drive and destroys any file info or structures.

This is how we handled the wiping of old systems at Coca Cola prior to returning them to the vendor after their 3 years of use were up.

Using a hammer or any type of physical destruction is just stupid. You can easily wipe the drive and resell the old computer.

Obviously, that makes sense, if you want to sell the computer. But, if you want to trash the computer, I'll bet you a dollar that some people would not successfully remove all files by using your instructions. But, they do know how to use a hammer.

mrf0151 05-30-2023 12:01 PM

If it worked for her it should work for you too.
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Pinball wizard 05-30-2023 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeazz (Post 2221927)
If you are interested in a quick, secure, and easy way to wipe a hard drive, try Darik's Boot and Nuke (dban). It is a free way to wipe a hard drive with DOD level approval. I have used it for years professionally and it has worked very well.

This is a good suggestion for traditional, spinning media disk drives. For SSD's, the drive vendor typically has an erase app that you should use.

Freehiker 05-30-2023 06:38 PM

What in the world do y’all have on your PC’s that you’re so worried about someone else seeing 😂

NoMoSno 05-30-2023 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Freehiker (Post 2222191)
What in the world do y’all have on your PC’s that you’re so worried about someone else seeing ������

Banking information? Taxes?


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