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Michael 61 05-07-2023 07:18 AM

Supporting posts on Palm Trees
 
Hi -

In the newer areas, it is common to see wood braces supporting the newly planted palm trees. As a general rule, how long is it necessary for these braces to be in place before the plam has sufficient rooting, and then can be removed?

dewilson58 05-07-2023 07:27 AM

I was told.............so verify with an expert (not on ToTV), six months.

Was told by our landscaper after installation.

:thumbup:

Bogie Shooter 05-07-2023 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael 61 (Post 2215134)
Hi -

In the newer areas, it is common to see wood braces supporting the newly planted palm trees. As a general rule, how long is it necessary for these braces to be in place before the plam has sufficient rooting, and then can be removed?

Easily found on the net…..

How Long to Stake Palms
Bracing or staking palms provides anchorage and stability to allow newly forming roots to grow outward into the surrounding soil. It should happen as soon as you plant the tree to give it support from the beginning. Once roots stabilize the palm, bracing must be removed.
A minimum bracing time frame of six to eight months is usually necessary. Don't brace palms for more than 12 months. Consider leaving braces up on palms as they endure their first tropical storm season. Including the first storm season, still don't keep the braces on for longer than 12 months.

Michael 61 05-07-2023 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2215247)
Easily found on the net…..

How Long to Stake Palms
Bracing or staking palms provides anchorage and stability to allow newly forming roots to grow outward into the surrounding soil. It should happen as soon as you plant the tree to give it support from the beginning. Once roots stabilize the palm, bracing must be removed.
A minimum bracing time frame of six to eight months is usually necessary. Don't brace palms for more than 12 months. Consider leaving braces up on palms as they endure their first tropical storm season. Including the first storm season, still don't keep the braces on for longer than 12 months.

Bogie - I have you on “ignore” and have told you to stop replying to any of my posts, as for some reason you like to “troll” me and posts very condescending remarks like “easily found on net” - I’m still new to the Villages and this site, and you have been nothing but unwelcoming and down right mean from my first time here. Why do you go out of your way to do this? I picture you as some old curmudgeon with no life here in The Villages, with nothing better to do than to spend all day on TOTV being smug and arrogant - please leave me alone and stop trolling me - placing you back on ignore.

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-07-2023 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael 61 (Post 2215134)
Hi -

In the newer areas, it is common to see wood braces supporting the newly planted palm trees. As a general rule, how long is it necessary for these braces to be in place before the plam has sufficient rooting, and then can be removed?

Six months, or until someone complains to Community Standards that their neighbor is keeping them up too long. Whichever comes later.

Bogie Shooter 05-07-2023 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael 61 (Post 2215347)
Bogie - I have you on “ignore” and have told you to stop replying to any of my posts, as for some reason you like to “troll” me and posts very condescending remarks like “easily found on net” - I’m still new to the Villages and this site, and you have been nothing but unwelcoming and down right mean from my first time here. Why do you go out of your way to do this? I picture you as some old curmudgeon with no life here in The Villages, with nothing better to do than to spend all day on TOTV being smug and arrogant - please leave me alone and stop trolling me - placing you back on ignore.

Touchy, touchy…….did not get your memo. Just trying to help as you seem to need it……….

Michael 61 05-07-2023 02:36 PM

Okie - one last thing - If you want to start every post “easily found on net” - then no one should really be asking any questions here at all - as the vast majority can be found in other places beside TOTV - News flash - that is the reason why this site exists - to ask questions (especially by new, younger residents like myself), that have questions about The Villages. Fortunately, I have received many private messages from many users thanking me for my questions, and attempting to keep things “positive” and upbeat here. Sorry that my presence here is such an annoyance for you.

Bogie Shooter 05-07-2023 02:45 PM

I refer you to your thread “UPS Tip”. 79 posts and I did not post? Did you send you memo to all or just part of the posters? How many were added to your ignore list?

asianthree 05-07-2023 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael 61 (Post 2215134)
Hi -

In the newer areas, it is common to see wood braces supporting the newly planted palm trees. As a general rule, how long is it necessary for these braces to be in place before the plam has sufficient rooting, and then can be removed?

Palms have a very shallow root system when they are planted, almost looks like a buzz haircut. Our landscaper said they would come and remove the supports when the palm was ready, and not all palms need the same support time.

Couple of new palms on Meggison have toppled over after the last weeks high winds. Two houses on Burgess palms snapped in half above their support, so that didn’t help. We have six palms at our old house, and everyday wished wind would take them out.

Michael 61 05-07-2023 08:42 PM

Thanks Asian, appreciate the reply

Captainpd 05-08-2023 06:17 AM

10 post are probably enough. 8 have the same answer.

neilbcox 05-08-2023 07:46 AM

Suggestion!
 
Keep palms fertilized with palm food to assist in the root development. Palms up to 15’ can stand on their own with at least 6 months spring and summer months. Palms like a Royal grows higher than 20’ will need up to 9 months.

Recommendation…leave all palms braced throughout hurricane season of September to November.

jimkerr 05-08-2023 08:47 AM

When I had palms, I’d keep them there for 12 months.

Regorp 05-08-2023 09:36 AM

Stake palm
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael 61 (Post 2215134)
Hi -

In the newer areas, it is common to see wood braces supporting the newly planted palm trees. As a general rule, how long is it necessary for these braces to be in place before the plam has sufficient rooting, and then can be removed?

Who cares?? Love seeing the amazing palm trees every way I turn. Stakes?

asianthree 05-08-2023 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Regorp (Post 2215571)
Who cares?? Love seeing the amazing palm trees every way I turn. Stakes?

Those who are looking at 15 staked palms on common property, out their front and rear of their house. Then watch the wind take them down last week, with stakes still in place.

Those who are new to palms, and didn’t realize the shallow root system, isn’t like planting an oak or whatever tree.

This site used to be a great way to ask questions for new residents, your post is one of hundreds that cause many New to TV, not to ask questions, to keep berating to a minimum.

Carla B 05-08-2023 06:19 PM

Hoping, Michael, that you don't give up on TOTV. I, and many of us, enjoy reading your questions and your process in migrating from Colorado and getting a house in Richmond. Please don't allow these posters' offensive, cryptic, comments to stop you from participating here.

dewilson58 05-08-2023 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Carla B (Post 2215738)
Hoping, Michael, that you don't give up on TOTV.

He's good.
I've seen him in action.
He goes by Teflon Mike.

:thumbup:

Michael 61 05-08-2023 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carla B (Post 2215738)
Hoping, Michael, that you don't give up on TOTV. I, and many of us, enjoy reading your questions and your process in migrating from Colorado and getting a house in Richmond. Please don't allow these posters' offensive, cryptic, comments to stop you from participating here.

Thanks Carla- I really appreciate that

Michael 61 05-08-2023 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2215740)
He's good.
I've seen him in action.
He goes by Teflon Mike.

:thumbup:

Thanks Mr Wilson - you’ re all right!😀

Nucky 05-08-2023 08:05 PM

You are on our almost nightly Golf Cart Ride. I'm not a stalker. This guy that we speak of I equate to Andie Rooney, a curmudgeon. If you ask my opinion Michael 61, he is jealous of you. Nothing more nothing less, disregard him in full. He got to me the same way when I was asking all the good questions you are asking. We were all new at one point. you are using the FORUM the way it's supposed to be used.

I went after him once before I turned over a new leaf and started to behave and he calmed down like a little puppy. He had to get in the last word but he cut the garbage almost immediately. Been quiet towards me for years and better stay that way.

Michael 61 05-09-2023 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 2215751)
You are on our almost nightly Golf Cart Ride. I'm not a stalker. This guy that we speak of I equate to Andie Rooney, a curmudgeon. If you ask my opinion Michael 61, he is jealous of you. Nothing more nothing less, disregard him in full. He got to me the same way when I was asking all the good questions you are asking. We were all new at one point. you are using the FORUM the way it's supposed to be used.

I went after him once before I turned over a new leaf and started to behave and he calmed down like a little puppy. He had to get in the last word but he cut the garbage almost immediately. Been quiet towards me for years and better stay that way.

Thanks Nucky - good counsel and advice - I probably should have just ignored him and moved on, allowing him to have the “last word”.

And if you see me out on my front lanai, (putting in a wrap-around birdcage this week), please make sure to stop and say hi during your golf cart excursions, would like to meet you 😀. I was recently on a very popular Villages podcast, and have had many people stop by and introduce themselves - it’s been great!

Nucky 05-09-2023 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael 61 (Post 2215840)
Thanks Nucky - good counsel and advice - I probably should have just ignored him and moved on, allowing him to have the “last word”.

And if you see me out on my front lanai, (putting in a wrap-around birdcage this week), please make sure to stop and say hi during your golf cart excursions, would like to meet you 😀. I was recently on a very popular Villages podcast, and have had many people stop by and introduce themselves - it’s been great!

That's where I picked up the location. What a great story and show Jerry & Linda & Gizmoto have. You're doing everything on the money. Your house is beautiful and I know you are just getting started.

I can relate to the rental thing. Our neighborhood is a ghost town most of the time and the rentals don't seem to be that hot nowadays. I wish no ill will on our landlord neighbors, I wish them well but as soon as the one-year mark arrives some will sell and pay the capital gains, some will wait until the two-year mark and take the profit and run and the time we are enjoying being the Kings of our neighborhood will be in the rearview mirror.

Waiting on the Gas Company again. Another leak.


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