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flamilak 05-21-2023 01:43 PM

Palm Tree Privacy
 
My husband & I are looking to give ourselves a little privacy behind our lanai which is about 15 feet (more or less) from our neighbor’s lanai. They have shades but we are thinking along the lines of a small palm tree. We were thinking of a fan palm but landscaper suggested the 3-trunk palm tree.
Any suggestions or ideas? Thanks

Keefelane66 05-21-2023 01:58 PM

Dwarf Sugar palm
Arenga Palm

villagetinker 05-21-2023 02:07 PM

IMHO, I think there are hedges that would be much more suitable for privacy, but another alternative would be shades inside your lanai, we did this several years ago and works very well (no watering or trimming required).

LuvNH 05-21-2023 03:01 PM

We used bottle brush. Let it grow as thick and tall as you want for privacy. Cut it back whenever you want, great landscaping bush.

njbchbum 05-21-2023 03:14 PM

Whatever you decide - be aware of your easements and don't plant in them - and since you are adding to existing landscaping, check with ARC to find out if you need its approval to plant.

If you choose to go with the palm - be sure it will be happy in your climate zone.

JohnN 05-21-2023 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2219708)
Dwarf Sugar palm
Arenga Palm

We have a sugar palm and that works great. Lots of low leaves, easy maintenance, hardy.

Worldseries27 05-22-2023 04:28 AM

Lots of good answers. Suggest you two take a drive around established areas and take pics of various patterns to help with your decision

Remembergoldenrule 05-22-2023 04:42 AM

First make sure you have ARC approval and good tap measure and think about maturity size You don’t want to have to take down once mature because it is over property lines.
I suggest Podocarpus and or blinds. Don’t plant anything that when it is mature will be up against your screen because hard to maintain, block breezes, and make you feel closed in.
Drive around older sections and see what you like when plant is mature.
Bottle bushes draw bees.

Skunky1 05-22-2023 04:52 AM

Bamboo

kenpoboy 05-22-2023 04:58 AM

Bamboo is an invasive species and bottle brushes are a nightmare if you decide to change to a different type of foliage. A hedge is always easy and can be shaped anyway you like…..holy, etc….

bowlingal 05-22-2023 05:06 AM

Kenpoboy...bamboo has two types...invasive and clumping. Clumping does not spread and stays put. Invasive spreads all over and I think is not available here and not allowed to be planted. There are many common areas that have clumping bamboo here, just take a look around. It does offer lots of privacy.

Radamo 05-22-2023 05:40 AM

We are also reviewing options for something similar. The only thing to keep in mind with shades is that they will also restrict some air flow. I prefer a nice breeze when it is available.

GizmoWhiskers 05-22-2023 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2219712)
IMHO, I think there are hedges that would be much more suitable for privacy, but another alternative would be shades inside your lanai, we did this several years ago and works very well (no watering or trimming required).

Agree! Depending where the houses are located, last year the couple of the 30 degree heavy frost freezes we had plus the lack of rain has many of the rhobolini palms in the south of 44 in the DeLuna area looking like they are on death's door. They do come back but VERY slowly.

I have noticed that the bottle brush trees were not hit at all by the freezes. I do LOVE myrhobolini palms. Mine is three trunk but I would take me 2 hrs to wrap it before every frost.

I had decided if it were to ever get severly frost bit I would put in a bottlebrush tree as much less worry. The idea of no maintenance, no worry is an option I would for sure consider though, especially if I were a snowbird.

rjn5656 05-22-2023 05:56 AM

Privacy
 
Not my favorite plant, bottle brush would do. In my previous house, my neighbor put in a row between our 2 houses. They grew to about 15 feet by the time I moved. Provided good privacy.

LoisH 05-22-2023 06:47 AM

We just put in our 4th mule palm. Depending how you keep it trimmed, it can grow 10 feet wide. It is cold tolerant. Attached a link with good photos. Bought ours for $185 at Lowes —we were able to carry it and plant it ourselves —it was taller than the courtyard wall and many fronds.

Mule Palm | Liberty Landscape Supply

Remlod 05-22-2023 06:50 AM

Lanai privacy
 
Our home had a viburnum hedge along the entire back of the house when built. We added a bird cage and rerouted the existing plants (With proper permits) and added a few more to allow for privacy along the extension made by the bird cage. We love both the privacy and at the same time the enjoyment of making friends of our neighbors.
Only draw back is the need for regular trimming.
Leave at least 4’ between the plants and the house to allow for maintenance and access.
PM me if you want
To see what it looks like.
PS. The existing bottle brush trees we have a scruffy in comparison to the viburnum. We are considering pulling them out and replacing them with more viburnum.

rpalumberi 05-22-2023 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by flamilak (Post 2219705)
My husband & I are looking to give ourselves a little privacy behind our lanai which is about 15 feet (more or less) from our neighbor’s lanai. They have shades but we are thinking along the lines of a small palm tree. We were thinking of a fan palm but landscaper suggested the 3-trunk palm tree.
Any suggestions or ideas? Thanks

sugar palms, we have three

depending on space, alternate sugar palms (high) with some type of fan palm (lower)

ask landscaper about using sugar palms alternating with something

good luck

Ele201 05-22-2023 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Remembergoldenrule (Post 2219779)
First make sure you have ARC approval and good tap measure and think about maturity size You don’t want to have to take down once mature because it is over property lines.
I suggest Podocarpus and or blinds. Don’t plant anything that when it is mature will be up against your screen because hard to maintain, block breezes, and make you feel closed in.
Drive around older sections and see what you like when plant is mature.
Bottle bushes draw bees.

Good advice, valid points. I agree about getting approval. Been reading lately about “anonymous” busy bodies going around TV then making complaints about various violations.

And btw, don’t agree with doing that type of thing. These anonymous complaints included someone who painted a nice green color on her house borders but that was reported as a violation and she had to paint over it, and they fined her $2,500. Another case involved a complaint about someone’s hedges being too high, and she was forced to remove the plants, even though they were that high for years. Anyway, a bit off topic perhaps, but just underscoring approval issues, in case a neighbor or “anonymous” person raises an issue.

bsouthworth47@yahoo.com 05-22-2023 07:07 AM

Shades
 
Shades do go up and down whenever you want.

MisterPratt 05-22-2023 08:04 AM

Beautiful, yes, however
palm trees can attract palm rats and they can be difficult to trim.

omimom 05-22-2023 08:54 AM

We have a pindo palm in our front yard. Max height is 20'. It's the only cold hardy feather palm and tolerates temps as low as 5°F, which means it can grow as far north as coastal New Jersey and British Columbia. Fruits are edible and used to make jelly in South Florida, where this beauty is also called jelly palm. The only thing is, after about 5 years the fronds will be higher from the ground and you won't have privacy. We also have a viburnum hedge for privacy but it needs to be trimmed about 3 times a year. It's a fast grower.

Camranhvet 05-22-2023 08:59 AM

Be very leery of the 3 trunk robolini palm. They look great but do not hold up very well if a frost or freeze occurs. A very popular landscaper warned us about this but my wife insisted she wanted one. Enjoyed it one year then had to replace it due to frost and freeze damage.

Albany 05-22-2023 09:27 AM

Hedge for privacy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flamilak (Post 2219705)
My husband & I are looking to give ourselves a little privacy behind our lanai which is about 15 feet (more or less) from our neighbor’s lanai. They have shades but we are thinking along the lines of a small palm tree. We were thinking of a fan palm but landscaper suggested the 3-trunk palm tree.
Any suggestions or ideas? Thanks

We have an incredible privacy hedge consisting of bottle brush trees at the corners, and ligustrum in between. All our neighbors benefit from the hedge, and yes it has to be trimmed maybe twice a year. Left alone it would surely hit 12 feet. We keep it at 6. It's completely frost hardy. We have no problem at all with bees, and the birds are very happy.

maistocars 05-22-2023 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by LuvNH (Post 2219721)
We used bottle brush. Let it grow as thick and tall as you want for privacy. Cut it back whenever you want, great landscaping bush.

I like the look of bottle brush, but oh those bees that love them too!

Wondering 05-22-2023 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by flamilak (Post 2219705)
My husband & I are looking to give ourselves a little privacy behind our lanai which is about 15 feet (more or less) from our neighbor’s lanai. They have shades but we are thinking along the lines of a small palm tree. We were thinking of a fan palm but landscaper suggested the 3-trunk palm tree.
Any suggestions or ideas? Thanks

Ligustrum shrubs give you the best privacy. less expensive and less maintenance than palm trees.

PJ_Smiley 05-22-2023 10:10 AM

Podocarpus - if you look around The Villages, a lot of common areas use Podocarpus hedges for privacy.

fdpaq0580 05-22-2023 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bowlingal (Post 2219785)
Kenpoboy...bamboo has two types...invasive and clumping. Clumping does not spread and stays put. Invasive spreads all over and I think is not available here and not allowed to be planted. There are many common areas that have clumping bamboo here, just take a look around. It does offer lots of privacy.

Sorry to disagree, but "clumping" bamboo does spread. Started with a 1 foot circle, which grew to a 2 foot circle, to a 4 foot circle, etc. Eventually, had to have it dug out at @ 8 foot diameter. Though it provided privacy, as it expanded it got dirty, messy and became a haven for unwanted critters.

Chi-Town 05-22-2023 10:22 AM

Another vote for ligustrum, a great privacy hedge

Karmanng 05-22-2023 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Camranhvet (Post 2219890)
Be very leery of the 3 trunk robolini palm. They look great but do not hold up very well if a frost or freeze occurs. A very popular landscaper warned us about this but my wife insisted she wanted one. Enjoyed it one year then had to replace it due to frost and freeze damage.

Im surprised as here in AZ I have one and we get lots more freezes than Fl does and mine does fine! HEAT high heat killed one actually

Tyson 05-22-2023 10:33 AM

I had 6 palm trees on my property 15 years ago and they were gone in 3 years. Nothing but cleanup all the time.

margaretmattson 05-22-2023 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by flamilak (Post 2219705)
My husband & I are looking to give ourselves a little privacy behind our lanai which is about 15 feet (more or less) from our neighbor’s lanai. They have shades but we are thinking along the lines of a small palm tree. We were thinking of a fan palm but landscaper suggested the 3-trunk palm tree.
Any suggestions or ideas? Thanks

Palm trees are beautiful but require quite a bit of maintenance. The fronds grow extremely large and heavy and must be removed by a professional at a cost. Just keep that in mind before you make your final decision.

EddieUA 05-22-2023 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by flamilak (Post 2219705)
My husband & I are looking to give ourselves a little privacy behind our lanai which is about 15 feet (more or less) from our neighbor’s lanai. They have shades but we are thinking along the lines of a small palm tree. We were thinking of a fan palm but landscaper suggested the 3-trunk palm tree.
Any suggestions or ideas? Thanks

If you prefer to plant outdoor palm trees for privacy, the European fan palm or lady palm are two of your best choices. The European fan palm reaches up to 15 feet tall when mature and has a short trunk and dense crown. It forms an effective privacy screen.

Bill1701 05-22-2023 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by LuvNH (Post 2219721)
We used bottle brush. Let it grow as thick and tall as you want for privacy. Cut it back whenever you want, great landscaping bush.

It depends on the location. We have bottle brush plants on the east side. They have never filled in. We tried fertilizer and that didn't help. I think they need more sun to grow better. We have one in the front, west facing, and it is great.

msilagy 05-22-2023 12:49 PM

Palm trees are a lot of work - I have the 3 branch one he described in front of my house. I would not suggest any the of palm trees. Other suggestions are much better. Good luck!

Bwanajim 05-22-2023 01:14 PM

Podocarpus

Janicepyatt 05-22-2023 01:24 PM

2nd vote for Pindo Palm. Don't get Robellini palms (3 trunks) as they have the most nasty thorns (4" long). As stated earlier, Pindo's are cold hardy. I removed two Robellin's...look great, horrible to maintain!

Ligustrums are boring and ugly. Find a smaller plant you like and put nearer your lanai that will grow under pindo palm that should be put 6-8' from your lanai.

Camellias are nice. Beautiful flowers, slow growing and many like shade. Also consider Coontie palms, Easy plant, slow grower and can grow in sun or shade. Would be perfect under a pindo palm. Remember to consider the light you have and get the right plant for the conditions or you're wasting your money.

We planted a Philodendron for a similar reason and it has done well near our lanai with a pindo a little further out.

If you want boring --do a ligustrum or bottle brush.

retiredguy123 05-22-2023 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2219712)
IMHO, I think there are hedges that would be much more suitable for privacy, but another alternative would be shades inside your lanai, we did this several years ago and works very well (no watering or trimming required).

I agree. Install a shade and paint a palm tree on it.

Packer Fan 05-22-2023 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Wondering (Post 2219903)
Ligustrum shrubs give you the best privacy. less expensive and less maintenance than palm trees.

Totally agree, and a good trim once a year keeps them looking good. It is easy to trim the flyers that grow towards the screen every few months or so. Way better than palms- palms will not give you privacy - you see right through them.

SHIBUMI 05-22-2023 05:18 PM

lanai shades....who does these type of shades and I assume they are water proof??? thanks

Pickbent 05-23-2023 04:20 AM

Privacy for Patio from nearby Neighbor
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kenpoboy (Post 2219782)
Bamboo is an invasive species and bottle brushes are a nightmare if you decide to change to a different type of foliage. A hedge is always easy and can be shaped anyway you like…..holy, etc….

Not all bamboo is invasive. I have clumping type bamboo planted now for over three years. Has not spread. We prune it to keep off our pool birdcage screen. Great for borders, privacy.


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