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The Gazette 05-30-2023 04:15 PM

Investigation underway for apparent murder/suicide in The Villages
 
The Sumter County Sheriff’s Office has launched an investigation into an apparent murder/suicide in The Villages, according to a press release from the department. While scanning the outside of a residence for a well-being check this morning in the Village of Rio Grande, deputies noticed a person lying on the floor inside the house. Upon

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graciegirl 05-30-2023 06:03 PM

Murder Suicide on San Pedro Drive.
 
I remember hearing of several situations like this over the years living here in The Villages. Most times one is terrible pain that cannot be addressed and the other cannot face life without them.

The Daily Sun has always had a policy not to print information about suicides out of respect.

I know that all of us feel very sad to read this report today.

RPDaly 05-30-2023 07:03 PM

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retiredguy123 05-30-2023 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RPDaly (Post 2222199)
Not the creeps at villagenews.com. They already published the property owners names even though the police have yet to announce the victims names.

So, which would you prefer, censoring news stories to make The Villages look better than it is, or publishing all available public information?

manaboutown 05-30-2023 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 2222186)
I remember hearing of several situations like this over the years living here in The Villages. Most times one is terrible pain that cannot be addressed and the other cannot face life without them.

The Daily Sun has always had a policy not to print information about suicides out of respect.

I know that all of us feel very sad to read this report today.

The reason for the Daily Sun's failure to report such news is it hits the image of a happy place and hence the developer's bottom line. While I enjoy reading it the DS is primarily a sales tool.

The reporter does not write well. The deputies noticed a person lying on the floor, not laying on it. “Laying” vs. “Lying” (“Lay” vs. “Lie”)–What’s the Difference? | Grammarly

Murder-suicides in Elderly Rise

retiredguy123 05-30-2023 07:36 PM

FYI, if you go to a rec center and connect to their WIFI, you cannot access the "other" news website. It is specifically blocked from the Internet.

Taltarzac725 05-30-2023 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 2222186)
I remember hearing of several situations like this over the years living here in The Villages. Most times one is terrible pain that cannot be addressed and the other cannot face life without them.

The Daily Sun has always had a policy not to print information about suicides out of respect.

I know that all of us feel very sad to read this report today.


I believe many newspapers do not cover suicides unless they also involve a murder, kidnapping or some other crime related somehow to the incidents. The Villages Daily Sun has covered a few of these though in the almost 18 years we have lived here. There was one involving someone jumping off the 27/441 bridge near Paradise Park and traffic having to swerve or something like that. Melinda Duckett's suicide and a few others.

MSchad 05-30-2023 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2222205)
The reason for the Daily Sun's failure to report such news is it hits the image of a happy place and hence the developer's bottom line. While I enjoy reading it the DS is primarily a sales tool.

The reporter does not write well. The deputies noticed a person lying on the floor, not laying on it. “Laying” vs. “Lying” (“Lay” vs. “Lie”)–What’s the Difference? | Grammarly

Murder-suicides in Elderly Rise

A terrible tragedy and your gripe about the developer and rip the reporters grammar. Unbelievable!!

manaboutown 05-30-2023 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSchad (Post 2222212)
A terrible tragedy and your gripe about the developer and rip the reporters grammar. Unbelievable!!

What is unbelievable is your misinterpretation of my post. I am not griping about the developer. Business is business and the developer is extraordinarily successful. I am merely revealing the reality. Same with the reporter's grammar.

Taltarzac725 05-30-2023 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2222219)
I am not griping about the developer. Business is business and the developer is extraordinarily successful. I am merely revealing the reality. Same with the reporter's grammar.

It looks like many newspapers do not report suicides unless they involve celebrities or some other crime. And even then they try to be careful how they report them.

PAHO/WHO | PAHO trained more than 100 journalists from the Americas on responsible coverage of suicide to prevent 'suicide contagion'

manaboutown 05-30-2023 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2222221)
It looks like many newspaper do not report suicides unless they involve celebrities or some other crime. And even then they try to be careful how they report them.

PAHO/WHO | PAHO trained more than 100 journalists from the Americas on responsible coverage of suicide to prevent 'suicide contagion'

Yes. I know of one unexpected suicide in TV of a wonderful man. Very sad but not reported. Just as well...

TOTV Specialist 05-30-2023 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2222205)
The reason for the Daily Sun's failure to report such news is it hits the image of a happy place and hence the developer's bottom line. While I enjoy reading it the DS is primarily a sales tool.

The reporter does not write well. The deputies noticed a person lying on the floor, not laying on it. “Laying” vs. “Lying” (“Lay” vs. “Lie”)–What’s the Difference? | Grammarly

Murder-suicides in Elderly Rise

Typos happen. Thanks for spotting this. I am sure the reporter would be incredibly grateful to you!

badkarma318 05-30-2023 11:41 PM

I hope Sadie is o.k., and will be cared for.

pvetrano1 05-31-2023 05:06 AM

Really ! The developer is worried that people won't come to The Villages because someone committed suicide ! Some people will say anything to make the developer look bad. That's sad !

ThirdOfFive 05-31-2023 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2222207)
FYI, if you go to a rec center and connect to their WIFI, you cannot access the "other" news website. It is specifically blocked from the Internet.

Why the beating around the bush? Just name the other website and be done with it.

Here, I'll spell it out for you below:

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collegeref 05-31-2023 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Gazette (Post 2222145)
The Sumter County Sheriff’s Office has launched an investigation into an apparent murder/suicide in The Villages, according to a press release from the department. While scanning the outside of a residence for a well-being check this morning in the Village of Rio Grande, deputies noticed a person lying on the floor inside the house. Upon

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Suppression of news
is never good if Library
is true. Selection of news is different. I think we see that daily. If someone is curious enough they will find it
out. If the Sun wishes that it is their choice.

Hopefully, every time one happens they will use that space to advertise some sort of
Suicide prevention alternative.

rsmurano 05-31-2023 05:36 AM

I don’t get it either why people blame the developer for anything bad that happens in TV. If people are that upset about TV, they should just leave. They can make a profit on their house and then move outside of the bubble (like to LA, SF, Chicago, NYC for example) and then they can write about all the positive things like I went to the store today and I made it home without getting shot or mugged.

RICH1 05-31-2023 05:57 AM

an unfortunate situation, The resources to help people in that frame of mind are very limited across the United States…

Bogie Shooter 05-31-2023 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by collegeref (Post 2222243)
Suppression of news
is never good if Library
is true. Selection of news is different. I think we see that daily. If someone is curious enough they will find it
out. If the Sun wishes that it is their choice.

Hopefully, every time one happens they will use that space to advertise some sort of
Suicide prevention alternative.

:what:

Bogie Shooter 05-31-2023 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Gazette (Post 2222145)
The Sumter County Sheriff’s Office has launched an investigation into an apparent murder/suicide in The Villages, according to a press release from the department. While scanning the outside of a residence for a well-being check this morning in the Village of Rio Grande, deputies noticed a person lying on the floor inside the house. Upon

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Just read this in todays Daily Sun……………

airstreamingypsy 05-31-2023 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2222211)
I believe many newspapers do not cover suicides unless they also involve a murder, kidnapping or some other crime related somehow to the incidents. The Villages Daily Sun has covered a few of these though in the almost 18 years we have lived here. There was one involving someone jumping off the 27/441 bridge near Paradise Park and traffic having to swerve or something like that. Melinda Duckett's suicide and a few others.

It's not just a suicide, it's suicide AFTER murdering someone. Is it sad? Maybe, but if it was their choice, then so be it. If one was in terrible uncontrollable terminal illness pain, they might have made the decision together and it was their choice to make. Of course, we don't know that yet, hopefully if it was their choice they left a note.

Marine1974 05-31-2023 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2222202)
So, which would you prefer, censoring news stories to make The Villages look better than it is, or publishing all available public information?

Generally as a common practice
out of respect for the family members the media doesn’t do much reporting of suicide.
If someone in your family died by suicide would you want all the details in the media , name address????

CFrance 05-31-2023 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2222239)
Why the beating around the bush? Just name the other website and be done with it.

Here, I'll spell it out for you below:

AsteriskAsteriskAsteriskAsteriskAsteriskAsteriskAs teriskAsterisk AsteriskAsteriskAsteriskAsteriskAsterisk


You forgot the dot com.

Marine1974 05-31-2023 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RICH1 (Post 2222248)
an unfortunate situation, The resources to help people in that frame of mind are very limited across the United States…

I disagree , people won’t seek help . There are many resources, the VA for example , every time I call the recording asks if you’re feeling suicidal press a certain number. When I am there for any treatment they ask if you’re suicidal.
Our healthcare system has a wealth of resource that you don’t know about apparently.

LuvNH 05-31-2023 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marine1974 (Post 2222298)
I disagree , people won’t seek help . There are many resources, the VA for example , every time I call the recording asks if you’re feeling suicidal press a certain number. When I am there for any treatment they ask if you’re suicidal.
Our healthcare system has a wealth of resource that you don’t know about apparently.

Your knowledge of what help is available for people who have reached desperation may help others. May I suggest you list what you know.

ThirdOfFive 05-31-2023 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marine1974 (Post 2222298)
I disagree , people won’t seek help . There are many resources, the VA for example , every time I call the recording asks if you’re feeling suicidal press a certain number. When I am there for any treatment they ask if you’re suicidal.
Our healthcare system has a wealth of resource that you don’t know about apparently.

True words. Unfortunately people often don't think clearly in times of extreme stress.

Back in the day, oncall was assigned at our agency on a sign-up basis. Each person was responsible for a certain number of oncall weekends and holidays per year: it was always good to get your hands on the signup sheet early, or else you'd end up with Christmas or New Year's (always worse if they were part of a three-day weekend). Happened to me a few times. Christmas was always the worst, followed closely by New Year's and the accompanying problems that too much alcohol always seem to exacerbate. There were always calls that were borderline; often it was hard to tell the difference. We evaluated on the means-motive-opportunity criteria; if all three were present you had a legitimate emergency and we reacted accordingly. Talked a guy down from hanging himself once; Christmas and he was in the midst of a messy divorce. He had the rope and was on his way to the garage to do himself in. Fortunately someone in the home had the presence of mind to call the County CEP number; after a moderately long chat with the guy he agreed to hold off and to cooperate with the authorities who I dispatched immediately to his address. He ended up OK.

Unfortunately not all people are lucky enough to have a caring friend or family member to intervene. Often that is the only thing between a recovery (or at least an improvement in quality of life) and becoming a tragic statistic.

jminnis 05-31-2023 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2222205)
The reason for the Daily Sun's failure to report such news is it hits the image of a happy place and hence the developer's bottom line. While I enjoy reading it the DS is primarily a sales tool.

The reporter does not write well. The deputies noticed a person lying on the floor, not laying on it. “Laying” vs. “Lying” (“Lay” vs. “Lie”)–What’s the Difference? | Grammarly

Murder-suicides in Elderly Rise

AP Stylebook: Laying or lying, "Deputies responded to a call about a person _______ in the roadway ."

Lying in the roadway.

retiredguy123 05-31-2023 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marine1974 (Post 2222294)
Generally as a common practice
out of respect for the family members the media doesn’t do much reporting of suicide.
If someone in your family died by suicide would you want all the details in the media , name address????

I agree about reporting on suicide, but a lot of other news is censored unnecessarily.

Taltarzac725 05-31-2023 12:36 PM

Usually they will Baker Act someone who is showing signs that he or she is going to hurt themselves or someone else. But there is a limit on how long the government can keep them under watch.

What is the Baker Act? The Florida Mental Health Act Explained

Taltarzac725 05-31-2023 12:52 PM

FCC Designates 988 as a Nationwide Mental Health Crisis and Suicide Prevention Number | NAMI: National Alliance on Mental Illness

Someone had mentioned whom to call. Local NAMI groups all provide help. Home | NAMI: National Alliance on Mental Illness

NAMI Marion County: Mental Health Support, Education & Resources

Iowagirl2 05-31-2023 03:25 PM

There was a small article in the Daily Sun today

kcrazorbackfan 05-31-2023 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badkarma318 (Post 2222226)
I hope Sadie is o.k., and will be cared for.

That was my thoughts. 😢

Taltarzac725 05-31-2023 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowagirl2 (Post 2222399)
There was a small article in the Daily Sun today

C4 today in The Villages Daily Sun. May 31, 2023 it pretty much is the same information on the other news site.

These are usually put somewhere in the back of the paper which is a good practice IMHO.

Dgodin 06-01-2023 06:27 AM

The reaction to this unfortunate incident is incredible. Posters in the comments section in the ************** are fighting about whether they were republicans or democrats. Here the fight is whether The Villages Sun is covering up the tragedy.
We should be concerned for the family and friends of the couple. Suicide is a selfish act causing pain to everyone who loved them and unfortunately also may cause copycat acts.

badkarma318 06-01-2023 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dgodin (Post 2222510)
Suicide is a selfish act causing pain to everyone who loved them and unfortunately also may cause copycat acts.

Truth. When Bourdain took the coward's way out, he let down many thousands, possibly millions of fans who had formed such a deep connection to him (much more so than just about any other celebrity), all the people who worked for/with him, his many friends throughout the world, and most importantly, family - his young daughter.


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