Very interesting news from Russia.
 

Nasty spat developing in Russia!

Russia: Putin vows to punish Wagner's Prigozhin after military sites seized - BBC News

I just read that. Could get very interesting!!

The Wagner Group is the Dirty Dozen only 50,000.

Encouraging news, now who is going to rebuild Ukraine when this war is over? I don't think there will be much cash left in Russia, Putin is probably shipping it out of the country and has been for some time. .

I can't remember the last time I intentionally read, heard or watched any news from that part of the world regarding the fighting between Russia and Ukraine, or any ancillary "news" generated as a result of it. No interest. They're two third-world countries ranked first and second among all the nations of Europe in total corruption.

They are also first cousins, often as not, historically speaking, part of the same country. Let them settle their differences however they will, without any interference from us--or any other country.

Nice to say, but that ship has sailed.. our country has already poured mega-billions $$$ into Ukraine, much less our contribution to rebuild the country.

I just watched a brief bio of Prigozhin.

Takes one to know one…….

Scary stuff all around.

Boomer

The only problem with letting them solve their own problems is if we and other western countries hadn’t sent equipment and intelligence to Ukraine, Russia would have kept on going into the Baltics. Then we would be under treaty obligated to send troops. I would much rather send money and equipment to contain the conflict inside Ukraine. We don’t need to send our military off to fight another senseless war.

Well Said

Thanks for pointing out the big picture.

Boomer

Scary stuff.

If Putin looses power will his replacement be worse?

If the western alliances had not helped Ukraine, all the old eastern block would have been vulnerable.
It still is.
Russia soaks up loss of life like a sponge. Manpower and numbers have never been a problem for them. Life is cheap, and expendable
Also remember, neither the Atlantic or the Pacific is a buffer for the US any more.
If WW3 kicked off, all of the country will be in range and a target.

From DailyKos which has multiple daily updates since the Ukraine invasion began

And there we have it -- reality check.

Boomer

Seems the Coup has been cancelled.
Try again next week?

And where are you getting your latest information?

He got a pay raise.

Wagner Group chief says he ordered his Russian mercenaries to halt march on Moscow | AP News

The head of the private Russian military company Wagner will move to neighboring Belarus as part of deal to defuse rebellion tensions and the criminal case against him will be closed, the Kremlin said Saturday.

Yevgeny Prigozhin’s troops who joined him in the uprising will not face prosecution and those who did not will be offered contracts by the Defense Ministry, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said.

After the deal was reached, Prigozhin said he was ordering his troops to halt their march on Moscow and retreat to field camps in Ukraine, where they have been fighting alongside Russian troops.

The deal appeared to defuse a dramatically escalating crisis that represented the most significant challenge to President Vladimir Putin in his more than two decades in power.

I wonder how long before Prigozhin is assassinated?

These Russian events make those of the Romans pale in comparison.

Not really. Check out the Year of the Four Emperors in 69 AD. Year of the Four Emperors - Wikipedia.

Just think what would have happened if you payed with the wrong coins?

that ship has sailed

that works both ways

Things have settled down,
 

Things have settled down in Russia. As long as the Russian Air Force stayed loyal to Putin, the Wagner troops did not have a chance of actually taking over. Interesting to note that the fall out between Putin and Prigozhin started in 2018. Putin ordered Progozhin to take over an oil field in Syria controlled by the Kurds. They were under US protection. Trump, via diplomatic and military channels warned Putin 3 times not to proceed. He did anyway and sent a large column of the Wagner group in without air cover and with only light armor support. Our troops open up with heavy artillery fire followed with helicopter gunships. Intelligence reports were all over the place in terms of casualties, but best guess at the time was 200 Wagner group KIA and many more wounded. There were no American casualties (which is why is did not make much news). About 90 of the KIA were Russian citizens, the others were mostly middle eastern. Since then there has been a steady decline in trust between the Wagner group and the Russian military which has been exacerbated by recent events in Ukraine.

I read a link this morning that the U.S. offered P--something (don't know how to spell his name) was offered several BILLION $$$ to do a coup over Russia. He in turn told Valdimar thus they took the money and now have quit. More will be revealed no doubt. Nothing like putting the screws to our country...taking the money, the equipment etc.

My thoughts exactly

Wagner will probably be found at the bottom of an elevator shaft

Falling out of windows, and Polonium-210 are Putin's preferred methods.

Interesting link. Not seen that one. Perhaps you could post it.
Are you referring to Volodymyr , or Vladimir taking the alleged money?

The question is......................Will Wagner family be with him.

Wagner's family was probably used to stop him......now they all will die together.

He can't because he just made it up:mornincoffee:

That's what I had heard, so I was surprised at op original post...

Since Prigozhin works for Putin, one is not sure if this coup is staged or not. . . Wagner has troops all over Africa for various Putin interests. Given Putin's history of misinformation, this whole shtick appears to the staged given the amount of world wide video coverage and the apparent quick resolution making Putin look weak. . don't fall for it immediately . .

The result is that all of Prigozhin's army moves to Belarus, which is closer to Kiev, and Putin hasn't given up yet.

Watch Putin closely, he tends to appear weak prior to major events to confuse the opposition / give them a false sense of security. . always be aware of false flags of events. . The free market press simps help Putin with the misinformation from KGB strategists. .

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It’s over.

When the OP was first posted, the non-coup had only just started.
The link is a rolling news cast, updated as events happened.
Go to beginning of link if you want to read full report and coverage.

Sounds suspect to me but maybe if they eat each other, it would be amusing.