People are using short-term rentals to throw unruly parties
 

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That's the biggest problem with short term rentals,
the parties have moved from a hotel to a private residence. . .

something that CCDs should consider enforcing their covenants

I'm telling you the only way the developer or district does something is to file a
lawsuit against them.

At this junction, they just don't care.

TV is beautiful but I ponder if a smaller truly gated retirement community would’ve been a better idea.

I have a relative who lives in a gated community that doesn't allow any short-term rentals and to get past the 24hr gate guard he has to call the person you’re visiting and you have to show your ID which will be scanned.

I hate to be one of those TV is getting too big persons but it really is and too big to enforce any short-term rental rules if they were to ever implement any.

Nothing will change unless new home sales drop significantly.

Is TV too big not to fail?

Boomer

Or is it too big and it will eventually fail?

It cannot be both a retirement community and a spring break party destination. If it loses it’s reputation as a retirement community who knows?

Aw, gee, I was in a hurry. That wording I used needs clarification. I meant what you just said.

Is TV too big to not fail??? Not sure that one is worded right either???


Oh well…….I will just go ahead and say what I was trying to say — but will say it in a whole buncha words. :)

My opinion? (I am ducking now.) I think those who have been in TV for a while, and are settled in, have seen the best of the place, but can continue to enjoy it, if the place still works for them.

I think those thinking of buying in new better be aware of how huge it is and the issues that can cause. The ever-touted “Lifestyle” has been changing due to the unending sprawl.

I also think the damned AirB&B routine will not go away. It used to be that some people bought before retirement and used longterm renting to defray costs for a while. That was accepted.

But, now, it looks like buying is happening for the purpose of ongoing renting, short or long. It will never be reined in because the developer does not care. It’s about selling houses because that is where the profit is and, of course, there can never be enough profit.

Any thought of residents being able to change that is not likely to have the outcome of David v. Goliath.

The “family vacation” thing seems to be catching on, too.

TV will work for some retirees, but the place sure is not what it used to be. Potential buyers just need to be aware that maybe, just maybe, bigger is not better. The failing thing will be relative to the individual’s take on it. And ‘take’ might be the operative word in that one.

Boomer

Retirement community no more
 

What with spring break, summer vacations, holidays, Airbnb rentals and hundreds of people from neighboring developments enjoying the free entertainment and restaurants, The Villages is losing its look and feel as a retirement community. There's no slow season anymore. The cost of living is way up for amenities, utilities, taxes, recreation, home maintenance. Sooner or later, potential buyers spending time in The Villages might have second thoughts about living here. I wonder if the developer has any clue as to where the tipping point is.

Still a very quiet community in the villages where we are.

Agree, and it is a shame to see such a wonderful concept go down the drain due to need for money.It seems to me that no matter how much wealth the very rich have, they always seem to need more. The answer may be that great wealth brings great power, and if you have power you can basically do anything you want to do and break any rules you want to break. Unfortunately, there is no amount of talk that will change anything at this point. My home is in the mid to northern part and we seem to stay pretty stable, but many of my neighbors are passing and who knows who will buy their homes.

I just can't picture TV turning into a complete orgy community anytime soon.
By complete, I mean over 80%. :)

Same here. Tables available in the restaurants and space in the squares. Haven't seen a 200 person party at a rental since....... well, ever.

I don't know if AirBnB forwards local taxes to the tax office or not. If they don't, then you can certainly go after the landlords of short-term rentals by reporting them to the local tax office. The developer doesn't control what the tax collector does, and does not do. The developer might not care if someone is renting their home short-term, but the tax collector definitely cares.

The assessor's office also cares, because if the house is getting homestead exemption, and is used as a rental property, the office might have a thought or two on that. If it's listed as a residential property and is being used as a business/investment property, the assessor's office AND the zoning office might have a word to say about it.

Do we know anyone who would organize one?

The total head count at rentals is not the issue. Usually it is something like a family of 6, spring breakers with 4 -8, etc. They have no respect for private property, are disruptive, loud, abuse alcohol, and are prone to do things like racing bikes in the middle of the street, overpacking themselves into golf carts, chicken contests at pools, etc. Remember when we were young? Same thing going on here. Dangerous and loud horse play! Safety is never a concern.

We did chicken contests in pools all the time but never did it by the sides. We all seem to have survived all kinds of things.

Still have never seen anything like this though

People are using short-term rentals to throw unruly parties

The good news is, it is the short term, not the long term rentals, for all the alleged mayhem!

I live in a CYV very near to a square. It seems to be a renter's dream spot. We have renters coming and going all the time. I have been thinking about moving to a quieter area but can't seem to find an area I like better than where I am. For now, I have perfected that "old woman glare". Scares the bejeezus out of the young kids and they act appropriately or just leave because they are uncomfortable. Mama taught me well!

Where we are just about no rentals, wonder why some areas will have lots and others basically none?

If it's the Alden or Atwood Bungalows then the renters that are coming and going could be prospective buyers on their Lifestyle Previews.

No. Young adults none over 55 or near that age. Just renters who come here to have a good time! A neighbor told me one man owns 5 villas here and asked her if she wanted to sell hers.

Decided I should expand my reply. During the winter months in my neighborhood, the rentals are occupied by people over 55 each staying long term. Some rent the same unit for the following year before leaving.

Off season, the rentals are sporadic and none seem to be occupied long term. None of these renters have gotten so out of control that the police needed to be called. Just young people on vacation doing what young people will do.

If I glare at them when they are doing something stupid they usually politely stop and apologize. Some wave their hands at me and just leave. I tend to believe these renters are relatives of Villagers. They seem to not want to cause trouble but still just want to have fun. I try to be respectful because I would want another Villager to treat my family with respect. If anything, sometimes I feel like a babysitter.

Still, if I can find an area I prefer better, I would like to move. Piece and quiet is not something I get around here. I guess if you drove through Middleton not that the families have arrived, you will get my gist.

Turn the screws
 

Call the cops if there is noise past 10. Be confrontational and coarse when you see them. In other words, be un neighborly. Make the rental environment uncomfortable for the customers who rented.

That is the curse of living very near to a square. You bought the villa for the convenience but it is the same reason investors are highly interested. It is also the same reason people wanting to rent flock to my neighborhood.

So, what do you do? Walk around and be angry all the time? Making your life miserable? Instead of that, I accept I made a choice and have to deal with my neighborhood being a haven for renters. If I had to do it again, I absolutely would not purchase a villa very near to a square. Even some of the nice, big, homes outside of the villas have problems. Gawkers constantly staring and taking pictures and selfies. I have learned the hard way, convenience comes with a price. (And, I am not talking monetary.). Just deal with my choice the best way I can.

Why would young adults under 30 come to the Villages to rent, at all? There's nothing for them to do, they can't go in the adult pools, they can't join any sports clubs or enter any sports tournaments, I'm gonna take a guess that none of them are interested in playing bridge or enjoying a rousing afternoon of knitting with their pals. They can play golf, but they'd have to get a tee time, and there's only 2 to a golf cart so if they're really renting with several pals, they'd each have to pay to rent a golf cart.

This just really isn't a community that's designed to appeal to younger people. I'm not sure what the attraction is at all.

I am a short-term renter right now and you should say ‘some short-term’ tenants. We are renting this house for two weeks trying to decide if we like TV enough to move here. (I’ve already made up my mind, but the Hubby is still sitting on the fence) The point is that without the right to come and stay you will have less people buying, and the the neighborhood loses value.

This is why I believe some if the young renters are relatives of a Villager. Here to visit but don't want to be too big of an inconvenience.

I did speak to a family that was renting for a week. They said it was cheaper than booking a hotel at Disney. Curious sightseers who have never been to Florida. They got a kick out of driving the included golf cart around, looking for alligators, spending time at the squares, took advantage of the supplied bikes, and using the private pool in their rented villa. Drove to Disney and came back the same night. Went to country clubs for dinner. They said they felt like millionaires and had one heck of a time.

This gives me yet another reason to be grateful I live in the Historic Section. Most of the properties here are manufactured homes. Any family looking to enjoy their private pool and feel like millionaires, would not be renting in our area of the Villages. Not to mention that it's around an hour JUST to get to the Turnpike from here.

You know big O....................I understand your gratefulness. :coolsmiley:

Yup I just get to feel like - a retiree living in a beautiful retirement community with mostly lovely neighbors.

I am interested in what one calls a “short term rental”. There was a news report on Fox 35 today about a neighborhood concerned about short term rentals. It is not a unique situation to The Villages.

Brevard County residents frustrated over influx of Airbnb'''s, short-term rentals taking over community

Yes, indeed! We looked at new construction homes for 6 months and could not find anything worth moving there for. Higher taxes, huge bond, massive electric towers, noise from turnpike, blah, blah, blah! And, it seems like we would have to spend entire days driving around just to do errands. Here, we can be anywhere in minutes or have things delivered in minutes. Looking at preowned homes now. Who knows? It sounds great in the historic section! Maybe we will be neighbors!

I do not believe there is one villager who has a problem with renters like yourself. It is how we all came to the villages ourselves. Please do not be offended by this post.

The concern we have are short term renters who are underage, have no plans of purchasing a home, and who's primary reason for being here is to have a good time. Some stay for just one day ; some a few nights. And, the majority about a week.- often with a sizeable group pooling the cost to safe money.

People coming and going leaving their trash behind. During their stay, all types of disrespectful antics that you would expect of a younger crowd on vacation. Like I said, sometimes I feel like a babysitter.

Sue
 

It may be time for neighbors to start suing landlords who operate short term rentals STRs for violations of operating a continued business. It only takes a few. There is no reason a homeowner should bear the burden of someone else for the purpose of quick cash. Get your ducks in a row. Take pictures, times and dates, records etc. Call when infractions of rules exist and push these clowns out of our retirement community.

The landlords are leeches on the rest of us.

I don’t want to agree but…..absentee landlords who cater to short term weekly B&B tenants???? I wouldn’t consider those villa owners to be good neighbors so why not report them when things get out of hand?? The Villages has programs for those wanting to test the waters here.

The Developer is responsible for interior deed compliance , seems to be just an empty suit place holder of the family just getting a paycheck for doing nothing. Daily , weekly rentals in a retirement community is absurd, 2 month minimum rentals only. Stone Crest has the answer 2 .,month minimum on rentals.

Peasants
 

Go after the guys at the bottom of the food chain first. Then the top will capitulate. Eventually the peasants “landlords” will not care for the thought of themselves being sued because of loss of property value etc. A place you paid for, they continue to leech value from. Just make a slum village where all there are are rentals. Leave the decent folks who wanted to retire in their dream homes alone.

Stop with the quotes. Very annoying

How else would we know who people are responding too?

Who are you talking to? You know, there's a quote button you can use, so people know who you're responding to.

Just sayin...