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bsloan1960 07-26-2023 10:03 AM

The Dog performed at Lake Sumpter last night.
 
The band was made up of 2 Guitarists, 1 Keyboardist, 1 Drummer, and 2 Lead Singers.

One of the singers was a woman with a really nice voice. The other singer was a dog on a leash that barked loudly and managed to ruin several songs. Every time it barked about 100 people turned their heads and sneered in the owner's direction- but it's OK because she loves the dog and thinks it's cute. Now would be a good time for people to explain why this pet's loud barking should be accepted. No. It did not have on a Service Dog vest.

Cyndee@twc.com 07-26-2023 10:14 AM

If enough people walk out on them the band will get the hint

Chi-Town 07-26-2023 10:17 AM

No such thing as a stupid dog. Just a stupid owner

JSR22 07-26-2023 10:43 AM

There is not a p in Sumter and service dogs do not wear vests.

Taltarzac725 07-26-2023 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JSR22 (Post 2238952)
There is not a p in Sumter and service dogs do not wear vests.


Service dogs are usually well trained. Frequently Asked Questions about Service Animals and the ADA | ADA.gov

BrianL99 07-26-2023 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JSR22 (Post 2238952)
There is not a p in Sumter and service dogs do not wear vests.

Most do and 99.9% of them won't bark, unless there's a significant reason ... lousy music doesn't qualify.

JSR22 07-26-2023 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2239002)
Most do and 99.9% of them won't bark, unless there's a significant reason ... lousy music doesn't qualify.

Service dogs do not need to wear a vest. The majority of them do not. Dogs are allowed in the squares. They do not have to be service dogs.

bsloan1960 07-26-2023 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JSR22 (Post 2238952)
There is not a p in Sumter and service dogs do not wear vests.

I guess your role here is to correct posters rather than address the subject matter.

bsloan1960 07-26-2023 03:25 PM

Not questioning if they are allowed. Questioning how neighborly a woman is who sits through several songs as her dog's loud barking ruins it for the humans who are present.

JSR22 07-26-2023 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bsloan1960 (Post 2239011)
I guess your role here is to correct posters rather than address the subject matter.

You are welcome.

Fredster 07-26-2023 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bsloan1960 (Post 2239011)
I guess your role here is to correct posters rather than address the subject matter.

No…JSR’s role is to defend inconsiderate
dog owner behaviors!
Not all dog owners are inconsiderate,
but many in TV unfortunately are!

JSR22 07-26-2023 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Fredster (Post 2239031)
No…JSR’s role is to defend inconsiderate
dog owner behaviors!
Not all dog owners are inconsiderate,
but many in TV unfortunately are!

You are wrong I never defended inconsiderate dog owners. I stated a dog does not have to be a service dog to go to the squares! I have owned dogs since I was 8 and owned a dog business for many years. It is ignorant to think a Service Dog needs to wear a vest.

BrianL99 07-26-2023 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JSR22 (Post 2239045)
You are wrong I never defended inconsiderate dog owners. I stated a dog does not have to be a service dog to go to the squares! I have owned dogs since I was 8 and owned a dog business for many years. It is ignorant to think a Service Dog needs to wear a vest.

No one in the thread, said a Service Dog has to wear a vest. The vast majority do, for a myriad of reasons.

& I doubt there' are many folks in TV, who don't know dogs are allowed in the Squares. I bring mine, all the time.

So forgive me, but I can't find any point to your posts, other than to let us all know you owned a "dog business".

fdpaq0580 07-26-2023 09:18 PM

Different point of view. The person whose dog was barking and interrupting the show was rude (for allowing her dog to ruin the show), egotistical (for using her noisy and disruptive dog as a meas of making her the center of attention), and a perfect example of a bad dog owner. The dog was apparently not happy to be there, but the owner, apparently didn't care about the poor dog.

NOTE: most negative post's about dog behavior are really about the clueless, self-centered owners.

Two Bills 07-27-2023 04:00 AM

Thank your lucky stars I wasn't there, had a few to many beers, and decided to sing along with the band.
The dog would have sounded like Pavarotti! :sing:

Aviator1211 07-27-2023 04:46 AM

Barking dogs at Sumter, blood curdling screams at Spanish Spring -- seems like the squares aren't for people who like to listen to music anymore, they are for people who like to draw attention to themselves.

Sandy and Ed 07-27-2023 05:11 AM

We brought our dog to the squares in the past thinking it would be good for her. Then read that the barrage of loud some times discordant sound might not be good for her (and perhaps the cause of the barking??) so we decided to leave her home. Suggest other caring dog owners do the same. Of course since the squares are open to the general public who is to say that particular dog owner (or others like him/her/it, them, etc) would even read this?

mikeycereal 07-27-2023 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Aviator1211 (Post 2239082)
Barking dogs at Sumter, blood curdling screams at Spanish Spring -- seems like the squares aren't for people who like to listen to music anymore, they are for people who like to draw attention to themselves.

The barker and the screamer... imagine if they were both at the same square on the same night. Luckily I have a dog catcher and the men with nets on speed dial! :duck:

I would just time it to when they arrive the band is playing the requested song "They're coming to take me away haha." :duck:

BrianL99 07-27-2023 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy and Ed (Post 2239085)
We brought our dog to the squares in the past thinking it would be good for her. Then read that the barrage of loud some times discordant sound might not be good for her (and perhaps the cause of the barking??) so we decided to leave her home. Suggest other caring dog owners do the same. Of course since the squares are open to the general public who is to say that particular dog owner (or others like him/her/it, them, etc) would even read this?

Perhaps other dogs are unlike yours and they enjoy the music and noise at the Squares? You never know what's possible ... it's even possible you're misinterpreting your dog's reaction.

FosterMomma 07-27-2023 06:05 AM

This dog is either reacting to some notes that disturb him or has literally been encouraged to sing along. Either way, the owner is inconsiderate of those trying to listen to the music and of the dog for being forced to endure the heat. No way to know if the owner was a Villager.

annecobb 07-27-2023 06:06 AM

too early in the morning for a squabble fest.

banjobob 07-27-2023 06:23 AM

My opinion leave your pets at home when attending crowded venues .

Bay Kid 07-27-2023 07:15 AM

If this is a service dog he wasn't very well trained if he is barking for no real reason. Maybe the owner needs to be trained.

JGibson 07-27-2023 07:29 AM

It will probably take a couple of dog bites in the square for them to ban dogs until then either say something to community watch or instead of the death stare which is passive aggressive confront the lady.

airstreamingypsy 07-27-2023 08:03 AM

I wasn't there, but 100% it wasn't a service dog. It was just a dog with an idiot owner. People with barking dogs and crying babies should remove them from public places, if they continue to bark or cry. No one wants to hear that.

fdpaq0580 07-27-2023 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by banjobob (Post 2239115)
My opinion leave your pets at home when attending crowded venues .

I approve this message!

fdpaq0580 07-27-2023 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by annecobb (Post 2239110)
too early in the morning for a squabble fest.

no it's not!

fdpaq0580 07-27-2023 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2239093)
Perhaps other dogs are unlike yours and they enjoy the music and noise at the Squares? You never know what's possible ... it's even possible you're misinterpreting your dog's reaction.

Or, you could be blind to your dogs discomfort, while they have it right. Just saying.

Caymus 07-27-2023 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by annecobb (Post 2239110)
too early in the morning for a squabble fest.


This is day 2. The thread probably has two more mornings.

Whitley 07-27-2023 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Cyndee@twc.com (Post 2238944)
If enough people walk out on them the band will get the hint

I thought the same as you until I read it a couple of times. The dog was not part of the band (at least I do not think it was). It was someone in the audience pet.

BrianL99 07-27-2023 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by FosterMomma (Post 2239109)
No way to know if the owner was a Villager.


& how would that be relevant, in a public Square?

Whitley 07-27-2023 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 2239130)
If this is a service dog he wasn't very well trained if he is barking for no real reason. Maybe the owner needs to be trained.

Or maybe, just maybe, as the poster was getting annoyed at the dog barking, the dogs owner was about to have a life threatening situation and the dog was doing as it was trained, bark to make others aware and get help. What do you think? Too far of a stretch maybe? DOG "Bark ruff ruff bark (my human family is about to have a seizure)" Other Village Resident at the square "Shut that dog up, he should not be singing". (I need to complete an audit and don't want to start so I am admittedly reaching)

Bill14564 07-27-2023 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Whitley (Post 2239185)
Or maybe, just maybe, as the poster was getting annoyed at the dog barking, the dogs owner was about to have a life threatening situation and the dog was doing as it was trained, bark to make others aware and get help. What do you think? Too far of a stretch maybe? DOG "Bark ruff ruff bark (my human family is about to have a seizure)" Other Village Resident at the square "Shut that dog up, he should not be singing". (I need to complete an audit and don't want to start so I am admittedly reaching)

If the dog was attempting to alert its owner to a life-threatening situation, would the proper response by the owner be to wait until the music was over?

Personally, I can't think of any situation where a dog barking or a baby crying or a child screaming should be handled by sitting there obliviously and doing nothing.

Whitley 07-27-2023 10:02 AM

I give up for today. Nothing to say.

mikeycereal 07-27-2023 10:41 AM

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The dog was not part of the band (at least I do not think it was)..

Are you sure about that?

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Trishakaye 07-27-2023 10:50 AM

But why wouldn’t a service dog wear a vest? Asking sincerely. I thought an identifying vest was helpful so others wouldn’t try to pet or distract a working dog.

Whitley 07-27-2023 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Trishakaye (Post 2239222)
But why wouldn’t a service dog wear a vest? Asking sincerely. I thought an identifying vest was helpful so others wouldn’t try to pet or distract a working dog.

I thought it would wear a vest as well. I guess it really doesn't matter. Dogs are permitted in public squares, and it will ultimately come down to owner responsibility to assure the dog behaves properly. I am not sure if we can even agree on what is behaving properly these days.

retiredguy123 07-27-2023 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Trishakaye (Post 2239222)
But why wouldn’t a service dog wear a vest? Asking sincerely. I thought an identifying vest was helpful so others wouldn’t try to pet or distract a working dog.

Or, a non-service dog can wear a vest so people will think that it is a service dog and not ask any questions. Any dog owner can buy a service dog vest. It doesn't prove anything.

Whitley 07-27-2023 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2239225)
Or, a non-service dog can wear a vest so people will think that it is a service dog and not ask any questions. Any dog owner can buy a service dog vest. It doesn't prove anything.

Could the owner get fined for identifying his/her dog as a service dog, similar to how a driver can get fined for using a handicapped parking space without a pass?

retiredguy123 07-27-2023 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Whitley (Post 2239226)
Could the owner get fined for identifying his/her dog as a service dog, similar to how a driver can get fined for using a handicapped parking space without a pass?

I don't think so. The service dog law is a Federal law. I don't think any state or local authorities can fine someone who violates a Federal law. So, a person would need to be assessed a fine by a Federal official.

The handicapped parking law is a state law that prescribes specific fines for violating the law.


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