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Villager kills another Villager…never hapens in Americas fFriendliest place


Except i read the other forbidden other online news source.

Not a word here about a 75 year old punching n 85 year old in the jaw at Glenview CC becuse he thought he hit his lexus.

Poor 85 yer old is dead from a brain bleed.

You wont find these stories in the Sun. No one talks about the violence here.

Lets all drink the kool aid

Been here for many years. The Kool-aid drank around here comes in a bottle titled self-entitlement. The arguments I've seen over parking spaces, golf balls, chairs in the squares, exercise equipment, etc. are so common that when I read this I was numb to the details. And, nowadays, I can't seem to have a restaurant meal without some table arguing. Usually the mine is better than yours scenario. Who cares what you own? Welcome to the Villages!

Lock him up!

Ill accept the arguments, the sniping and the anger.

I find it astonishing that retired people here resort to violence

I find it more astonishing that you (or anyone else) would be astonished. This is a community of 150,000 transplants from other places, most of whom had never met each other before moving in. Of course there will be criminals, violent people, drunks, drug addicts, unwed mothers, uneducated people, bigots, racists, sex offenders, antisemites.

There are more good people than there are bad, in my opinion. But no one should be astonished to learn that the bad exist.

Right! Why some people think this is the land of sunshine, lollipops, and rainbows amazes me too! It's like they never were around grumpy/hostile elderly people before moving here.
News Flash! No one is checking anyone's background information before letting them purchase a home. I think some of those overly cheerful YouTubers who try to sell "the Villages is perfect" scenario along with the well-trained Villages sales staff are to blame. Where have you ever been that is "perfect"?

For some reason, and the first time to be exact, I agree with the OrangeBlossomLady.
I'm getting soft...:shocked:

OMG, I'm going back to read that post ... it could be a FIRST for most all of us!

(Is it OrangeBlossomLady or OrangeBlossomBaby? Are they one and the same? Yeah, must be ... there couldn't possibly be 2 people going down those tracks.)

OrangeBlossomLady put us in the "Good People" category... :highfive:

Hole in one !

Not a crime wave more like an unfortunate incident.
Now that I have read about it, not sure what I am supposed to do.

Unfortunate incident? You are being too kind. The man thought his Lexus was hit. It was not! When you choose to love/worship your material objects more than people you need to have your head checked. Unfortunately, his family members and friends probably enabled his behavior. He should have been told (and often) a car is just a car. It doesn't bring prestige or the like. It takes money out of your pocket and insurance premiums to pay. Nothing more! If it gets damaged, you get it fixed. It's only an object.

Truth is millions of people own a Lexus. He is not "that special". Anyone can go to a store and buy one if they want to. I feel sorry for the families. Both lost a loved one. One to unnecessary violence the other because a man loved his Lexus. Sad!

Living is easy with eyes closed

That’s why they have to give it away for free for 6 months.

He’ll get anger management and probation

As this country and our culture degrades further you will see real violence enter our lives as have nots, criminals and illegal migrants come looking for some from the haves. We can't escape the politically induced crime wave that is eating the country alive forever. Two old timers engaged in mutual combat is not the kind of violence that endangers this community.

Since we moved here (in 2015) I know of 2 murder suicides, one near Rio Ponderosa, near where we live.

I may not agree with the predominant politics around here but I do believe in the truth (especially when backed up with reliable statistics).

1) The Villages, crime wise, is WAY safer than the national average on all kinds of crime.

2) There are always bad apples in every barrel.

3) Ask any public-facing employee (anything from a clerk to a fast food cashier) who the most troublesome, most entitled, hardest to please people and they'll tell you that it's OUR generation (I'm 60). Too many of us were raised spoiled by The Greatest Generation (because they didn't want us reliving their horrors) and, while that's an easy accusation to make, it DOES tend to come true too often. Most of us aren't like that - but ask them who stands out in their minds and it's usually some entitled old person.

So I have no trouble in believing that there are a lot of low-level spats going on. Heck, seeing the arguments in the nursing home I worked at as a teenager right up to the one my mom was in starting last year - the evidence is there.

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it happens everywere,look around...."don't let the old man in "

"Grumpy old..." syndrome is a real thing. Like everything else that gets depleted as we age, serotonin (the feel good hormone) gets depleted too. Combined with chronic pain, lack of sleep, loss of spouse, it can get harder and harder to maintain a level, happy head space. It's easy to judge angry older people, but I like to imagine why they are that way. I'm sure it's hard living for them. I'll try my best not to cause unnecessary grump fest!

The link to the other source please

Not all but some people when they reach a certain age do not play well with others.
And this does happen everywhere, and it's not just confined to men.

Why do you think Xanex if free for old folks?

Perhaps "soylent green" is actually not a bad fate for angry old peeps.

After all, T V has (or maybe its been quashed) a large medical research facility planned near Middleton. What better group to test on than over 55's. Pick your "vacation" theme and enjoy the journey lol.

Grumpy folks never learned to play well with others in the kindergarten sandbox.

So, the truth is, you know how to get your "other" news here in TV. The incident mentioned, while tragic, is not surprising. Further, it is certainly not common.

The fact the story did not appear in the Sun is also not surprising. The publisher of the Sun is free (free press) to print or not print that story. The "other" paper relishes in offering up stories about anything negative about TV, especially crime. Most of the crime stories they run wouldn't even get a passing glance in a newspaper in (pick any big city). Every newspaper has editorial/publisher bias.

The incident does not change my perception of safety in The Villages one little bit. Of all the places I have lived, TV is, by far, the safest and most crime free.

I doubt it. Best case scenario, if it went down the way it was reported, is he gets convicted of involuntary manslaughter. He'll do time.

It wasn't even his car that was hit!! Sad, sad situation all the way around

It's unrealistic to believe that within a group of people of more than 120,00 people that everything would be a wonderland of no disagreements, drunks and an all encompassing attitude of all is just perfect. Doesn't exist, but this is still a wonderful place to spend the last years of your life. It's not for everyone, but it is for a multitude of us.

You’re right, criminals buy homes and move, as well as go on vacation. Agree with your list of problematic people, except wouldn’t include “unwed mothers” or “uneducated people.” Nothing wrong with single mothers and not everyone has a college degree, no shame in either!

After all of that…….I still don’t give a damn that I didn’t read about it in the Sun.

TV isn’t perfect but pretty damn close compared to any other town. Talk to the police and they will tell you it’s pretty safe. The last cop I talked to he said the major issue is drunk golf cart drivers followed by domestic violence. How many drive by shootings have occurred in TV? How many meth labs have been raided inside TV?
As for somebody destroying your personal property, on purpose or by accident, no owner should just walk away. The offender should agree to fix the damage or suffer retaliation which could be being sued.

So...what WERE the expectations when moving here? That the folks moving here were going to leave their baggage behind? That all of a sudden irascible old people were going to turn into kindly old grandmotherly and grandfatherly types? That rocking chairs, card games in the lanai and doily-knitting were going to predominate?

It doesn't work that way. People are who they were before moving here, and that is pretty much a cross-section of America. More money, maybe, but that's not necessarily a positive when discussing personality types. But there is another factor that wasn't seen, at least to this extent and in this concentration, before people moved here, and that is summed up in the saying "as people age, they become more like themselves". So as age advances the philanthropist is apt to want to contribute even more. The quick-to-anger types are apt to develop a hair trigger. The life-of-the-party type is apt to become even more outgoing. The lounge-lizard types are apt to become even more of a pain. The loner is apt to become even more withdrawn. And so on. And unfortunately, the bullies among us may give in to their urges even more so than before.

The reason is simple. As people age, mental processes deteriorate, and as they deteriorate we gradually lose control of our emotions and how we act upon them. Bottom line: the real person that we've kept hidden more or less successfully all our lives is progressively more apt to start showing through, and not always with good results. Not all of us, or even most of us, and not necessarily in a bad way. But it DOES happen, and when you couple that with things like booze, a rocky home life, chronic pain, as well as other factors--well, sometimes the result is going to be like happened in the case being discussed here. Put simply, people have less emotional control, at times with unfortunate and even deadly results.

Post #17 mentions two murder-suicides here since 2015 (in a town that at this time has a population of 150,000, more or less). I come from a town of 25,000 and I can recall more such incidents there in roughly the same time-period--plus other crimes, against persons and property, that rarely if ever happen here. I carried a pistol there virtually every time I went out the door. Here? Not even once--though I did get my permit upon moving here. Just haven't felt the need, and this latest incident didn't change that. The Villages is by far the safest place I've lived since leaving home at age 18.

If there is one gripe I have about TV (maybe Florida in general--I'm not familiar with other settings) it is the lack of services designed to assist people with the emotional problems attendant upon advancing age. They just don't seem to exist, at least not to the extent that they're obviously needed. Maybe to develop and advertise them would go against the "healthy active senior lifestyle" thing, but to NOT develop them, and then have to deal with stuff like this, is to my mind far worse.

Define perfect. The police do practically nothing as a whole in at least 2 of the 3 counties. They're more concerned with policing things that don't need to be policed rather than what they should be doing.

I won't disagree with the drunk golf cart, lord knows this is the largest collection of irresponsible I've ever seen. Meth is on the coasts of the state most predominately around here they'd blow up the house LOL.

Oh yes lets make the lawyers more money. How about "IF" this person had done damage... since the OP stated this guy jumped off the handle when in fact he was wrong.

Kool-aid or not (and there is a S***load of it around here), all I hear is how wonderful this and that is, the reality is it's engineered into the fabric. TV restaurant reviews... seriously? I don't think restaurant reviews by overly PC people with declining tastebuds is of any benefit, but it does feed the entitled being's ego. I don't think enough people look at the reality of the way things are set up.

oh before I forget, please the handful of you entitled people don't forget to tell me "if you don't like it then leave" because that is so laughable it cracks me up every time. (The message from the ''hidden" entitled people)

It would be nice if the statistics backed up your opinion. However, FBI stats show that illegal immigrants commit crimes at a lower rate than American-born citizens. There's a lot out there that goes counter to what people "believe" - like how you're more likely to die of a gunshot wound in Ohio (16.5 killed per 100,000) than New York City (5.5 per 100,000). Oh - and the Ohio number is ONLY gun murders - the New York City numbers are ALL murders (i.e. including stabbings, beatings, etc).

We have been here over 20 years. I have never witnessed an argument, fight or anything even close to a fight. Only arguments have been with umpires at softball. We are a "city" of nearly 150,000. Stuff happens. Crime and incident issues extremely low compared to the rest of America .

Lexus, another Toyota with a slanted "L" option..

Just remember, he’s currently out on bond.

Just one question:

What is it that "doesn't need to be policed" and what "should they be doing"?
Who decides???? You????Me????

Ideal policing is to show up at the scene of a crime 30 seconds before it occurs, which is only possible in the movie "Minority Report"

Meanwhile, there are those, even on this site, that want the police to spend their time writing thousands of tickets for going 40 in a 35 zone or 21 mph in a golf cart. Oh, the horror, the horror. Should those people be deciding what the police "should be doing"? Or should they just hide under their beds?

The other extreme is anarchy, a la California and some of our larger cities.

Perhaps we should allow the professional law enforcement senior management to decide what policing activities to focus upon.

The OP should immediately call their realtor and put their house on the market and get out of this very dangerous crime filled area. Do you need help packing? Geez.

I don't believe it's entitled "Olde People" only.
We know that personality is set by age 30.
An individuals disposition at 30 is the same at 60, 70, 80...
Think about that for a minute. Older adults get a bad rap all of the time.

If and when folks spend a lot of time outside of their cohort, they see this to be very evident.

Sadly, the case in point would be the now deceased "gentleman" who did the "proper thing" and offered to exchange insurance info with the man who was a raging maniacal drunk, who thought he hit his treasured lexus. He wanted to fight.

The fighter, by the way didn't step up and admit anything, until the police came knocking on his door, due to ANOTHER Good Samaritan, our age, who helped the police I.D. the bad guy.

One man was a gentleman, who tried unsuccessfully to defend himself.

One man was not a gentleman, but rather a drunken, violent man who had his priorities askew and caused the DEATH of a gentleman, while his wife was witness.
There's a great poem titled,
"Children live what they learn."
Look it up.
My Mum and Dad were of the Greatest Generation and do not deserve to be disrespected, with such a generalized broad brush.