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bsloan1960 08-03-2023 01:52 PM

Continued Car GPS Problems.
 
We moved into DeLuna 3 weeks ago. Both car GPS programs- Waze and Google Maps refuse to route us through any villages to our destination. In every instance they take us around The Villages- 301 to 466, etc, then into the final village if that is our destination. One day it sent us 15 miles to get to a place we later figured out was only 2 miles away- through The Villages.

Today we were on 466A and wanted to go to the Village of McClure- we had no idea how to get there. It took us to 301, then Warm Springs, then to McClure. We noticed at the round-about that we could have gone down Marsh Bend Trail- through DeLuna instead of around. It has NEVER taken us through The Villages to get to our destination. My wife thinks the Apps are avoiding gates because not everyone has gate cards.

Any way- has anyone heard of this? Is there a setting to fix this?

Thanks!

CoachKandSportsguy 08-03-2023 02:08 PM

The solution is to learn the roads in TV to relieve yourself of GPS reliance.

The best way to do this is to get the directions from Google maps, write them down and then drive it looking at landmarks. . humans use landmarks for mental navigation. or just follow signs and see where they lead you!

you will feel more comfortable and keep your eyes on the road longer, and help your brain health keeping it in learning mode. . .

not the answer you were probably expecting, but the better long term answer

Keefelane66 08-03-2023 02:15 PM

Haven't had that problem yet.

Bill14564 08-03-2023 02:23 PM

Are these apps loaded into your car or are you using them from your phone? If they are in your car then it is possible they have not been updated with the latest map information. If there is a way to update your maps, that might help.

Even google maps or Waze on the phone may not have all the roads in the new neighborhood yet. If that is the case then it will just take time.

I suggest downloading the free Villages apps and use the directions from that until google/Waze maps are working for you. If you have an iPhonea and CarPlay then it will be almost as convenient as your in-car system.

Carla B 08-03-2023 02:34 PM

I think Sportsguy gives good advice. Using his instructions you would also learn which lane to be in as your approach a roundabout. That would help the other drivers stay calm.

Marathon Man 08-03-2023 02:58 PM

Try setting your route setting to "shortest" rather than "fastest".

Pondboy 08-03-2023 03:20 PM

The roads of Deluna have been on google maps for the last year ; Both Android and I Phone. I’d imagine your issue is with your cars built in maps software. I’d recommend googling it to see if you can update it yourself… Or you might have to take it to the dealer for an update…..or read the owners manual.

HIgolfers 08-03-2023 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pondboy (Post 2241301)
The roads of Deluna have been on google maps for the last year ; Both Android and I Phone. I’d imagine your issue is with your cars built in maps software. I’d recommend googling it to see if you can update it yourself… Or you might have to take it to the dealer for an update…..or read the owners manual.

The dealer will likely charge an arm and a leg and it will immediately be obsolete due to rapid construction here. Use the free Villages app. I’ve not had a problem using Waze or Google maps on my phone for driving in TV.

villagetinker 08-03-2023 05:07 PM

I use the Villages (free) app, Green background big white V, this offers both CAR and Golf cart directions, it has voice readout, and in general has been very accurate. I have no idea if you can download to your car, but with a suitable phone holder it works very well.

Babubhat 08-03-2023 05:20 PM

Google maps and Waze have become better south of 44. I nagged them incessantly. Still too much of the area shows as dirt. Much work still to be done

EdFNJ 08-03-2023 06:14 PM

They must be updating the areas now. We are in Amelia (just NORTH of 466A) and about 2 weeks ago around 8AM a Google Earth truck was scanning the neighborhood. Maybe they'll get down south before the end of the millennia.

kansasr 08-03-2023 06:50 PM

One of the biggest problems with apps like Apple, Google and Waze is they tend to route you around the gates that are in the Villages, assuming that we are a "gated" community. For example, going up Morse Blvd to 441, they will all take you over 466a or 466 to get to Rolling Acres road.

Mrmean58 08-04-2023 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by bsloan1960 (Post 2241265)
We moved into DeLuna 3 weeks ago. Both car GPS programs- Waze and Google Maps refuse to route us through any villages to our destination. In every instance they take us around The Villages- 301 to 466, etc, then into the final village if that is our destination. One day it sent us 15 miles to get to a place we later figured out was only 2 miles away- through The Villages.

Today we were on 466A and wanted to go to the Village of McClure- we had no idea how to get there. It took us to 301, then Warm Springs, then to McClure. We noticed at the round-about that we could have gone down Marsh Bend Trail- through DeLuna instead of around. It has NEVER taken us through The Villages to get to our destination. My wife thinks the Apps are avoiding gates because not everyone has gate cards.

Any way- has anyone heard of this? Is there a setting to fix this?

Thanks!

Common problem if you haven't had your car GPS maps updated recently so that it recognizes the new streets in the area.

ROCKETMAN 08-04-2023 04:56 AM

I use village app and get the voice option thru my hearing aids. I can put phone in cup holder in cart and be on my way.

JanetH 08-04-2023 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsloan1960 (Post 2241265)
We moved into DeLuna 3 weeks ago. Both car GPS programs- Waze and Google Maps refuse to route us through any villages to our destination. In every instance they take us around The Villages- 301 to 466, etc, then into the final village if that is our destination. One day it sent us 15 miles to get to a place we later figured out was only 2 miles away- through The Villages.

Today we were on 466A and wanted to go to the Village of McClure- we had no idea how to get there. It took us to 301, then Warm Springs, then to McClure. We noticed at the round-about that we could have gone down Marsh Bend Trail- through DeLuna instead of around. It has NEVER taken us through The Villages to get to our destination. My wife thinks the Apps are avoiding gates because not everyone has gate cards.

Any way- has anyone heard of this? Is there a setting to fix this?

Thanks!

That’s strange . I have a 2018’with car play and use the map that came on my apple phone and I can type it any Rec center or business in villages and it takes me right to it . I suspect maybe it’s a setting . My dealer is pretty nice and will help me with something like a setting issue when I ask the service writer . Not sure what’s wrong , but yiu should have that capability so I would call the local dealer and ask for service as a starting point. I know it’s frustrating . Good luck

rvalukonis 08-04-2023 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsloan1960 (Post 2241265)
We moved into DeLuna 3 weeks ago. Both car GPS programs- Waze and Google Maps refuse to route us through any villages to our destination. In every instance they take us around The Villages- 301 to 466, etc, then into the final village if that is our destination. One day it sent us 15 miles to get to a place we later figured out was only 2 miles away- through The Villages.

Today we were on 466A and wanted to go to the Village of McClure- we had no idea how to get there. It took us to 301, then Warm Springs, then to McClure. We noticed at the round-about that we could have gone down Marsh Bend Trail- through DeLuna instead of around. It has NEVER taken us through The Villages to get to our destination. My wife thinks the Apps are avoiding gates because not everyone has gate cards.

Any way- has anyone heard of this? Is there a setting to fix this?

Thanks!

A couple of suggestions. First, make sure your device settings are correct for things like shortest distance, etc. Second, The maps in your device must be updated periodically. That does not happen automatically and often requires a payment. This is important for TV because new streets and locations are added almost daily.

Sandy and Ed 08-04-2023 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by kansasr (Post 2241357)
One of the biggest problems with apps like Apple, Google and Waze is they tend to route you around the gates that are in the Villages, assuming that we are a "gated" community. For example, going up Morse Blvd to 441, they will all take you over 466a or 466 to get to Rolling Acres road.

Exactly. Will correct itself once you get PAST the gate. Until then it ignores the gated road.

wawriwwawriw 08-04-2023 05:52 AM

Delete them and upload them again.

MidWestIA 08-04-2023 06:00 AM

edit
 
you can edit google maps to put roads in to lead to your house

bowlingal 08-04-2023 06:02 AM

you don't need a gate card. The red button is all you need to push to open the gate

bowlingal 08-04-2023 06:03 AM

Since you are new here, don't forget to attend the new resident night and the golf cart safety clinic. Both are free and both are given every month. Also, Village Community Development Districts is for all information related to the villages. You should get used to using it.

westernrider75 08-04-2023 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsloan1960 (Post 2241265)
We moved into DeLuna 3 weeks ago. Both car GPS programs- Waze and Google Maps refuse to route us through any villages to our destination. In every instance they take us around The Villages- 301 to 466, etc, then into the final village if that is our destination. One day it sent us 15 miles to get to a place we later figured out was only 2 miles away- through The Villages.

Today we were on 466A and wanted to go to the Village of McClure- we had no idea how to get there. It took us to 301, then Warm Springs, then to McClure. We noticed at the round-about that we could have gone down Marsh Bend Trail- through DeLuna instead of around. It has NEVER taken us through The Villages to get to our destination. My wife thinks the Apps are avoiding gates because not everyone has gate cards.

Any way- has anyone heard of this? Is there a setting to fix this?

Thanks!

I use the maps on my iPhone and it always seems to work the best when I’m in my car. If I’m in the golf cart I use the villages app and make sure I choose golf cart option when putting in the address. I’ve never had the problem you described but it sounds like it’s in your settings.

Beyond The Wall 08-04-2023 06:11 AM

Teach Waze, and google
 
Turn on either app and drive through TV a few times. The apps learn that you are allowed in there and will use the info. Also in the apps setting , select fastest time , allow tolls, etc.
they both work for me

Bobendres 08-04-2023 06:22 AM

Really unhelpful

Bobendres 08-04-2023 06:23 AM

Get the Villages GPS app. It’s great. Has an auto route and and golf car route.

mntlblok 08-04-2023 06:24 AM

Long term
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy (Post 2241269)
The solution is to learn the roads in TV to relieve yourself of GPS reliance.

The best way to do this is to get the directions from Google maps, write them down and then drive it looking at landmarks. . humans use landmarks for mental navigation. or just follow signs and see where they lead you!

you will feel more comfortable and keep your eyes on the road longer, and help your brain health keeping it in learning mode. . .

not the answer you were probably expecting, but the better long term answer

"Long term" is apparently key for us. We're learning, but. . . :-)

nancyre 08-04-2023 06:34 AM

Use the Villages GPS instead. Otherwise check your settings. If there is a setting to avoid private roads - turn that off. ALso if you know the direction you want just keep going that way the GPS will give up telling you to turn around and get you there.

midiwiz 08-04-2023 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kansasr (Post 2241357)
One of the biggest problems with apps like Apple, Google and Waze is they tend to route you around the gates that are in the Villages, assuming that we are a "gated" community. For example, going up Morse Blvd to 441, they will all take you over 466a or 466 to get to Rolling Acres road.

that is COMPLETELY incorrect. I have never been routed around anything with Waze. it's your settings that is doing it. Waze has no idea who has gates, that's totally ridiculous

midiwiz 08-04-2023 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mntlblok (Post 2241474)
"Long term" is apparently key for us. We're learning, but. . . :-)

2 yrs and nada. that's insane

midiwiz 08-04-2023 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beyond The Wall (Post 2241461)
Turn on either app and drive through TV a few times. The apps learn that you are allowed in there and will use the info. Also in the apps setting , select fastest time , allow tolls, etc.
they both work for me

This isn't AI you don't 'teach' these apps. isn't anyone on here even close to technical??? geez. such bad advice in this thread.

grumpy@turton.us 08-04-2023 07:01 AM

I use Waze and have never had an issue and have never seen a gate without card access, not that you need it.

Jolson 08-04-2023 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsloan1960 (Post 2241265)
We moved into DeLuna 3 weeks ago. Both car GPS programs- Waze and Google Maps refuse to route us through any villages to our destination. In every instance they take us around The Villages- 301 to 466, etc, then into the final village if that is our destination. One day it sent us 15 miles to get to a place we later figured out was only 2 miles away- through The Villages.

Today we were on 466A and wanted to go to the Village of McClure- we had no idea how to get there. It took us to 301, then Warm Springs, then to McClure. We noticed at the round-about that we could have gone down Marsh Bend Trail- through DeLuna instead of around. It has NEVER taken us through The Villages to get to our destination. My wife thinks the Apps are avoiding gates because not everyone has gate cards.

Any way- has anyone heard of this? Is there a setting to fix this?

Thanks!

I live in Deluna near 301. Sitting at my house I put directions to Lowe’s on 466a in both Waze and Maps. Waze had me go out marsh Bend Trail to the light at 301 and make a left go down to warm Springs and then back up to Meggison to Powell to 466A. It said it was 13 miles. Maps, however had me go out to the light make a right turn, go up to 466A and Lowes is 6 miles away so maybe the issue is Waze isn’t up-to-date? Because those directions make absolutely no sense whatsoever.

If I ever want to go down to McClure, I would go out to the light make a left and go to warm Springs. I would not go down marsh Bend Trail even though it’s a shorter distance it’s much slower because of the speed limit.

PVR 08-04-2023 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsloan1960 (Post 2241265)
We moved into DeLuna 3 weeks ago. Both car GPS programs- Waze and Google Maps refuse to route us through any villages to our destination. In every instance they take us around The Villages- 301 to 466, etc, then into the final village if that is our destination. One day it sent us 15 miles to get to a place we later figured out was only 2 miles away- through The Villages.

Today we were on 466A and wanted to go to the Village of McClure- we had no idea how to get there. It took us to 301, then Warm Springs, then to McClure. We noticed at the round-about that we could have gone down Marsh Bend Trail- through DeLuna instead of around. It has NEVER taken us through The Villages to get to our destination. My wife thinks the Apps are avoiding gates because not everyone has gate cards.

Any way- has anyone heard of this? Is there a setting to fix this?

Thanks!

I had a similar problem of my GPS avoiding gates. Once I found shortcuts through the Villages I wet those routes with my Google maps on and ignoring the directions a few times. It will get a little annoying since you will that voice telling you to turn around. Explore with it on and it will to learn youcan use those gates. Hop this helps.
Mine is pretty good now even in the new areas

Rzepecki 08-04-2023 07:09 AM

For overall perspective, ask your Villages sales rep for maps of The Villages or go to a country club and purchase them. I use gps, but I like generally knowing the roads so I can tell if gps is leading me astray.

Babubhat 08-04-2023 07:19 AM

You can send your issues on Twitter for Maps

MandoMan 08-04-2023 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsloan1960 (Post 2241265)
We moved into DeLuna 3 weeks ago. Both car GPS programs- Waze and Google Maps refuse to route us through any villages to our destination. In every instance they take us around The Villages- 301 to 466, etc, then into the final village if that is our destination. One day it sent us 15 miles to get to a place we later figured out was only 2 miles away- through The Villages.

Today we were on 466A and wanted to go to the Village of McClure- we had no idea how to get there. It took us to 301, then Warm Springs, then to McClure. We noticed at the round-about that we could have gone down Marsh Bend Trail- through DeLuna instead of around. It has NEVER taken us through The Villages to get to our destination. My wife thinks the Apps are avoiding gates because not everyone has gate cards.

Any way- has anyone heard of this? Is there a setting to fix this?

Thanks!

Correct. Your GPS doesn’t understand the concept of private gates where you need a card or need to press the red button. It shows the streets if you go there, but it won’t route you there. At least mine doesn’t. It sends me around to gates with attendants. But if you know where you are going, use the gates you want, and your GPS will catch up in a few seconds. I don’t think my GPS has ever kept me from getting somewhere, but it has unnecessarily lengthened the journey. A couple days ago, driving back from Ocala on I-74 to highway 44 and then home, I went the way I wanted instead of the way my GPS wanted me to go and saved six minutes!

stargirl 08-04-2023 07:54 AM

Choose “directions” rather than “start”, when the map appears it will have all the streets and you can make your own route.

Carlsondm 08-04-2023 07:57 AM

We had the same problem for a couple of years. Google and Garmin take a while to catch up to The Villages new streets. We are also near the Turnpike occasionally, and Garmin thinks we are on it. Directions are .. interesting. Yes, definitely get a paper map or follow The Villages App on your phone until other maps catch up.

DonnaNi4os 08-04-2023 08:18 AM

Give it some time. This is a common problem with new homes and apartments. I had a brand new condo in NJ and it took 3 years before my address appeared on any gps. When I moved to TV almost 6 years ago it was a new development and I had the same situation. Fortunately it did get on gps pretty quickly. Hopefully it will be the same for you.

Acordionist 08-04-2023 09:08 AM

GPS Problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bsloan1960 (Post 2241265)
We moved into DeLuna 3 weeks ago. Both car GPS programs- Waze and Google Maps refuse to route us through any villages to our destination. In every instance they take us around The Villages- 301 to 466, etc, then into the final village if that is our destination. One day it sent us 15 miles to get to a place we later figured out was only 2 miles away- through The Villages.

Today we were on 466A and wanted to go to the Village of McClure- we had no idea how to get there. It took us to 301, then Warm Springs, then to McClure. We noticed at the round-about that we could have gone down Marsh Bend Trail- through DeLuna instead of around. It has NEVER taken us through The Villages to get to our destination. My wife thinks the Apps are avoiding gates because not everyone has gate cards.

Any way- has anyone heard of this? Is there a setting to fix this?

Thanks!

No, Wase is pretty good. However, you can install VillagesGPS on your smartphone specially if you intent to have a golf cart or ride bicycles


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