Water temps
 

Since we’re in Hurricane Season, with the water so unusually warm, I worry
about if a Hurricane hits that water.

I don’t remember ever seeing the temps being this hot in the 26 years
I’ve lived in Florida.

You just don’t understand we’re in a 8 years cooling trend that’s been repeated several times in Weather Forum.
You see I see it but others don't
Ross Island wit have a high of -34° and a low of -51° atmospheric conditions at clear.
My unofficial weather station says it’s 98° in the shade…

Scary thoughts. Will be interesting to see what happens. Andrew was a meandering storm 2 days prior to hitting south of Miami

Tropical weather that drifts over from Africa always hits the warm water of the Caribbean and Gulf. Please tell us you didn't believe that idiotic report that water temperature in key Largo was 101.1. Pretty amazing when you consider a 12,000 gallon pool on your lanai reaches 87 with no waves pulling in cooler water from deeper areas, but the 22 trillion gallon Atlantic gets to 101.1 with constant waves hitting the shore. I call BS, double BS and triple BS. Somebody must think we're pretty stupid.

More like 82 quintillion gallons. But what's six orders of magnitude among friends?

We may see hurricanes forming over the hot swimming pools. 96 degrees last evening- 99 a couple of weeks ago.

OMG yes, let’s have another climate discussion thread!

You probably don’t remember because the gubments agenda wasn’t quite as intense as now..Just sayin👎🏿

Why not? I'm sure everyone with change their minds... This time...

Doubt it---most are ill-equipped:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

My pool is set for 88 degrees and the heater has had to come on every day. My lanai must be exempt?

Mine is set for 90 but I believe it is currently sitting at 99. Yours is more exempt than mine.

(Are you sure it is the heater coming on and not a pre-set filter cycle?)

No, it's the heater. I have a huge live oak in my back yard that blocks the sun for half the day. Very annoying that my pool won't even hit 90 in this weather.

90+ in Dec Jan & Feb not summer (may - oct) key reason for not using a pool for me.

That explains the low ocean temps - lots of shade out in the gulf.

So when the increased amount of hurricanes don't materialize, they will be pushing a new narrative of a severe winter (think polar vortex) with lots of snow.

And "they" will blame that on global warming as well:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Guess so. Our pool water hit 91 degrees on Sunday. No heater on for months.

You gots some proof it wasn't a correct temp reading?
As far as the pool theory. You have a circulating pump. It continually circulates water from a shaded area. If you don't believe me shut the pump off for four or five days and then tell me what the temperature is.:wave:

I'm tired of the non-stop bs about the 7 year cooling trend you espouse at every occasion.

See the attached article. One of many articles about this "statistic" you use to "prove" your case and deny we have a problem.

Steven Hawking - before his death - stated mankind wouldn't be around by 2100. I'm in the camp if you deniers don't stop burying your heads in the sand he'll be right.

Tell the people who have died because of the continuing heat wave we don't have a problem.

Fact Check-Eight cooler years cannot be extrapolated to draw conclusions on long-term global warming | Reuters

No worries for another month. The tropical storm activity typically remains very quiet until mid September, when they follow my wife and I down the east coast on our way to the Villages. We brought Ian down with us last year.

And besides, FROGS love hurricanes, they keep most of the Snowbirds away for a couple extra months.

The polar vortex is GREAT for Golfing Eagles
Bald Eagles Play with Golf Ball on Frozen Lake - ViralHog

Unusually warm water temps? Huh? May want to reread the thread a few weeks ago that called that biased report bogus.

I recall one or two posters claiming it was bogus but others pointed out the opposite.

The high temp readings are still in the history for that particular buoy.

I have not seen any articles stating the readings were bogus. Please add links if there are some that I missed.

OP, is talking about water temps. plain and simple and how they could make a hurricane more powerful. “People will generally accept facts as truth only if the facts agree with what they already believe”. Andy Rooney. The water temps in the Atlantic are currently more warmer than usual. That the facts plain and simple and as the OP said this is not good for a new hurricane.

Your swimming pool temp (with a pump circulating the water) is not the same as the temp of the Atlantic or the Gulf. Apples and oranges. “You can be young over half of your life but you can be immature and stubborn all of your life.” Anonymous

Still Less Likely
 

We are still less likely to have a hurricane this year. The conditions are impacted by so many other variables. Underwater currents contribute to water temps much more than ambient temperatures. Anyone who tries to frame this as just the sun being hotter is untruthful and not scientific. Holistically all inputs for water temperature are needed for a substantial hypothesis of cause. The Sigsbee Deep is within mean for the year, however the North Equatorial is about.3 degrees warmer with a Standard Deviation of 1 degree Celsius. Gulf Stream water isn’t as heavily exchanging with the Northern Atlantic currents.

Keep in mind we should be at solar Maximus which now is peaking in late December? This breaks slightly from the 2025 prediction, but is by no means atypical of the 11 year cycle variation. Currents should cool if the suns rays do their flip by April giving us a much cooler ambient temp AND current changes again.

Without throwing too much into all the water temperatures amalgamations, we seem to be having heavier Sahara winds latent with dust. The dust suppresses storm activity quite a bit.

If you are into agenda driven hype, there are 3 storms in the Atlantic now. Fun fact: since 1851 only eighteen hurricane seasons passed without a known storm impacting the state of Florida. We average a little over 3 per season.

Proof? Here's the proof: IT'S NOT POSSIBLE!

And you think that a 4 foot deep 12,000 gallon pool with a circulating pump is a good analogy to a 20,000 foot deep 22 quintillion gallon ocean. PPPPLLLLEEEEEZZZZEEEEE:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

First of all, I'M NOT THE POSTER WHO ESPOUSES THAT 7 YEAR COOLING TREND, so direct that comment where it belongs.

That being said, I tend to agree with that person in general, except I've said neither side can use this year, 7 years, or even 200 years to predict a change in cycles that have been repeating for 4 1/2 million years.

And people dying in this "heat wave"???? Really???? You're right, this year is the first year, EVER, that people died in a "heat wave". right??? What a joke! :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

I think I spotted a stupid one!

Yeah...pool water can be warmed up by many different methods...just saying

Just returned from scuba trip in Key West. Water temperature was 91 or 92 everyday on the Gulf side. Past years it was 86 to 88 in mid August.

Hmmm, I wonder how much underwater volcanoes contribute to warm oceans/seas.

Warmer waters
 

Thanks for your report.

And to reiterate my point..

A single fin whale is thought to produce around 1,000 liters (260 gallons) of urine each day — enough to fill a 10-by-6-foot kiddie pool.

Or heaven forbid the warm Yellow feces from the blue whale...

get em' out of the Ocean they are contributing to water temperature rise

The people talking about pool temps are giving this subject the exact amount of seriousness that it deserves. NONE.

WTF????? (well that's funny)

To paraphrase Charlton Heston as Moses in "The Ten Commandments" to Pharoah:

"Out of your own mouth you have condemned yourself."

I wouldn't be so sure about not possible.

Looking at the data though, it's concerning. I found data for three buoys plus the MNBF1 that registered the high temperature. Today, three of them show a little over 87 degrees and MNBF1 shows a little over 89 degrees. There could be all sorts of valid reasons why MNBF1 reads two degrees higher. However, on the hot day MNBF1 read almost six degrees higher. Six degrees is still not impossible but it makes it a little harder to believe.

Whatever the case, while MNBF1 showed the absolute highest temperature it does not seem to be typical of the ocean around it. The three buoys around it all show similar temperatures: 87.3 degrees today and 95.6 degrees on the hot day.

Sure, Ocean temps of 87 in the Gulf are pretty much the norm, maybe a degree or 2 high. But 101.1 just isn't possible--the laws of thermodynamics prohibit it.