Talk of The Villages Florida

Talk of The Villages Florida (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/)
-   Weather Talk (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/weather-talk-515/)
-   -   We Live In The Pleistocene Ice Age (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/weather-talk-515/we-live-pleistocene-ice-age-343450/)

sounding 08-16-2023 05:27 AM

We Live In The Pleistocene Ice Age
 
Hear a new talk at the Weather Club, "We Live In The Pleistocene Ice Age" on August 17 at 1:30 PM at Laurel Manor. We live in the coldest period of Earth's 4.5 billion year history. It's called the Pleistocene Ice Age, which started 2.5 million years ago; and with few exceptions, each Ice Age glaciation gets colder and colder. Before the Pleistocene, the Earth had no permanent ice caps - but now we do. Even though we are in an Interglacial Warming Period, many glaciers continue to grow.

golfing eagles 08-16-2023 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2245959)
Hear a new talk at the Weather Club, "We Live In The Pleistocene Ice Age" on August 17 at 1:30 PM at Laurel Manor. We live in the coldest period of Earth's 4.5 billion year history. It's called the Pleistocene Ice Age, which started 2.5 million years ago; and with few exceptions, each Ice Age glaciation gets colder and colder. Before the Pleistocene, the Earth had no permanent ice caps - but now we do. Even though we are in an Interglacial Warming Period, many glaciers continue to grow.

Again, and I think I've repeated it many times, DON"T CONFUSE THE TRUE BELIEVING LEMMINGS WITH THE FACTS. It upsets the apple cart of their faith in the imminent, catastrophic global warming false narrative that is being crammed down everyone's throat'

Keefelane66 08-16-2023 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2245959)
Hear a new talk at the Weather Club, "We Live In The Pleistocene Ice Age" on August 17 at 1:30 PM at Laurel Manor. We live in the coldest period of Earth's 4.5 billion year history. It's called the Pleistocene Ice Age, which started 2.5 million years ago; and with few exceptions, each Ice Age glaciation gets colder and colder. Before the Pleistocene, the Earth had no permanent ice caps - but now we do. Even though we are in an Interglacial Warming Period, many glaciers continue to grow.

And I was planning to hear about “ Tonga will be discussed in the next Weather Club meeting - Aug 17, 1:30 PM, at Laurel Manor.”

fdpaq0580 08-16-2023 07:49 AM

[QUOTE=golfing eagles;2245970
crammed down everyone's throat'[/QUOTE]

??? It's not a pill. And nobody is physically assaulting and force feeding anyone. Non-believers (there, I didn't say deniers) act like little kids sticking their fingers in their in their ears screaming "ice age, ice age" just because they don't like hearing the truth.

sounding 08-16-2023 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2246061)
And I was planning to hear about “ Tonga will be discussed in the next Weather Club meeting - Aug 17, 1:30 PM, at Laurel Manor.”

Correct. Each Weather Club talk begins with current events -- Tonga being one of them -- but only with respect to climate change.

fdpaq0580 08-16-2023 09:29 AM

By the way, the pliestocene ended around 11,700 years ago.
Welcome to the Holocene.

Number 10 GI 08-16-2023 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2246074)
??? It's not a pill. And nobody is physically assaulting and force feeding anyone. Non-believers (there, I didn't say deniers) act like little kids sticking their fingers in their in their ears screaming "ice age, ice age" just because they don't like hearing the truth.

Same as the climate change believers that scream, climate change, climate change we're all going to die!!! Doesn't make the climate change alarmists right either.

If you remember about all the claims of doom and death that have been predicted over the years, there should be no life on our planet. So far we are still here and none of these dire predictions have happened. Keep screaming wolf and eventually no one will believe it.

Taltarzac725 08-16-2023 12:01 PM

Cloudflare CAPTCHA

From the linked article above--

Quote:

The Holocene is an unfinished chapter of the Cenozoic. Observers in the future will probably identify the Holocene as the time period when human occupation was the dominant feature of the Earth’s biota. The fossil record of the Holocene will no doubt reveal that humans had a dramatic impact on the earth's climate, floras, and faunas.

sounding 08-16-2023 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2246152)
By the way, the pliestocene ended around 11,700 years ago.
Welcome to the Holocene.

We live in the Holocene Interglacial Warm Period and the Pleistocene Ice Age. Find out why -- at the Weather Club talk.

Bill14564 08-16-2023 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2246152)
By the way, the pliestocene ended around 11,700 years ago.
Welcome to the Holocene.

No reason to let international bodies and real scientists make these determinations. Come to the weather club and hear real Villages experts tell you the scientists are wrong.

JMintzer 08-16-2023 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2246152)
By the way, the pliestocene ended around 11,700 years ago.
Welcome to the Holocene.

Just my luck... I'm always late to the party...

fdpaq0580 08-16-2023 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2246297)
No reason to let international bodies and real scientists make these determinations. Come to the weather club and hear real Villages experts tell you the scientists are wrong.

No reason to ........? Are you suggesting that we can all make our own determinations as to what we can call the various epochs? Boy that's going to play hell with them textbooks. I can see some wild possibilities in this.

rsmurano 08-17-2023 04:57 AM

Will the real climate scientists please stand up? The real climate scientists are not involved with the Gore and Greta Thunberg propaganda movement. That movement changes their narrative every few years to keep it going.
For example, this statement came from Gore about 15 years ago: ‘ Mr Gore, speaking at the Copenhagen climate change summit, stated the latest research showed that the Arctic could be completely ice-free in five years.’

Or how about this statement from 1 of these so called climate scientists in 2009: ‘Dr Maslowki, who works at the US Naval Postgraduate School in California, said that his latest results give a six-year projection for the melting of 80 per cent of the ice, but he said he expects some ice to remain beyond 2020.’

These statements came fro Al Gores movie from the 2006 timeframe: ‘Gore predicts that our shores will be flooded and sea-bordering cities will sink beneath the water leaving millions of people homeless. His narration tells the audience that, due to global warming, melting ice could release enough water to cause at 20-foot rise in sea level “in the near future.” ‘.

I sure didn’t buy beach front property when I bought in TV.

sounding 08-17-2023 05:46 AM

1 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2246297)
No reason to let international bodies and real scientists make these determinations. Come to the weather club and hear real Villages experts tell you the scientists are wrong.

Best advice yet -- unless you prefer more Gores.

golfing eagles 08-17-2023 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2246499)
Best advice yet -- unless you prefer more Gores.

And yet the party just keeps rolling on...... :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Ptmcbriz 08-17-2023 06:31 AM

Learn the difference between weather and climate. Big difference.

golfing eagles 08-17-2023 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ptmcbriz (Post 2246521)
Learn the difference between weather and climate. Big difference.

And yet there are those, and they're on TV every day, that use the last 10 days of unusually hot WEATHER to claim proof of global CLIMATE change.

Bill14564 08-17-2023 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2246453)
No reason to ........? Are you suggesting that we can all make our own determinations as to what we can call the various epochs? Boy that's going to play hell with them textbooks. I can see some wild possibilities in this.

Seems to be the way it works around here sometimes.

Bill14564 08-17-2023 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2246499)
Best advice yet -- unless you prefer more Gores.

You would think I would get used to it but I am still amazed that some people point to Al Gore as a climate scientist.

For everyone's sake, I hope they don't go to Robert Young or Neil Patrick Harris for medical advice just because they played doctors on tv.

Notsocrates 08-17-2023 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2246453)
No reason to ........? Are you suggesting that we can all make our own determinations as to what we can call the various epochs? Boy that's going to play hell with them textbooks. I can see some wild possibilities in this.

All he is asking is that you be open, listen and defer judgment. The alternative is to remain in the herd.

Two Bills 08-17-2023 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Notsocrates (Post 2246549)
All he is asking is that you be open, listen and defer judgment. The alternative is to remain in the herd.

Animals that stray too far from the herd, usually die!:icon_wink:

Vermilion Villager 08-17-2023 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2245959)
Hear a new talk at the Weather Club, "We Live In The Pleistocene Ice Age" on August 17 at 1:30 PM at Laurel Manor. We live in the coldest period of Earth's 4.5 billion year history. It's called the Pleistocene Ice Age, which started 2.5 million years ago; and with few exceptions, each Ice Age glaciation gets colder and colder. Before the Pleistocene, the Earth had no permanent ice caps - but now we do. Even though we are in an Interglacial Warming Period, many glaciers continue to grow.

And for those who can't make this meeting, next month the topic is: CHEMTRAILS!!!!:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::

Barkriver 08-17-2023 08:32 AM

Tell that to the people of Maui.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 08-17-2023 08:35 AM

This is the best thing that I've ever heard on the subject. Go ahead, attack the source but try to refute the information.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSrjAXK5pGw

dougjb 08-17-2023 09:02 AM

The Weather Club....should have its full name here....whether you believe science based by thousands of peer review articles....or whether you believe unqualified Villages "experts" who present NO peer review articles and only their opinions and those of other whackos!

Being a meteorologist is not the same as a climatologist...no matter how you stretch it!

Bill14564 08-17-2023 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 2246626)
This is the best thing that I've ever heard on the subject. Go ahead, attack the source but try to refute the information.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSrjAXK5pGw

Interesting. I think I heard:

1. Climate change is real but it's a small price to pay for the convenience of burning fossil fuels.

2. Climate change is real but we don't know the precise magnitude of how bad it will be and we like the convenience of burning fossil fuels.

3. If we use our definitions to restate what a paper claims to show then we can demonstrate that the paper doesn't show that. Oh, and we like the convenience of burning fossil fuels.

To be fair, the paper says:
Among abstracts expressing a position on AGW, 97.1% endorsed the consensus position that humans are causing global warming.
People can debate whether "humans are causing global warming" means all warming is caused by humans or whether it means the significant increase in warming is caused by humans. The video argues against the former but so would I. On the other hand, while the irrefutable proof is missing, I believe the latter.

fdpaq0580 08-17-2023 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Notsocrates (Post 2246549)
All he is asking is that you be open, listen and defer judgment. The alternative is to remain in the herd.

The evidence is in and it is overwhelming. Don't defer too long, the clock is ticking.

Cybersprings 08-17-2023 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2246669)
The evidence is in and it is overwhelming. Don't defer too long, the clock is ticking.

I am so tired of the supposed "facts." When really they are just "educated" guesses. Scientists "knowing" what the temperatures were 1000 years ago much less a million or 50 years in the future is absolute baloney. Every single day there are stories about scientists have "learned" knew things which makes what they "already knew" wrong.

Here are just a few...there are lots.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/techn...f22ec4fd&ei=16

New Discoveries Changed Our Understanding of Human History

sounding 08-17-2023 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2246579)
And for those who can't make this meeting, next month the topic is: CHEMTRAILS!!!!:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::

You'd be surprised how many requested this talk.

sounding 08-17-2023 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dougjb (Post 2246647)
The Weather Club....should have its full name here....whether you believe science based by thousands of peer review articles....or whether you believe unqualified Villages "experts" who present NO peer review articles and only their opinions and those of other whackos!

Being a meteorologist is not the same as a climatologist...no matter how you stretch it!

The traditional job description of a climatologist is one who catalogs and studies historical weather data.

fdpaq0580 08-17-2023 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cybersprings (Post 2246693)
I am so tired of the supposed "facts." When really they are just "educated" guesses. Scientists "knowing" what the temperatures were 1000 years ago much less a million or 50 years in the future is absolute baloney. Every single day there are stories about scientists have "learned" knew things which makes what they "already knew" wrong.

Here are just a few...there are lots.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/techn...f22ec4fd&ei=16

New Discoveries Changed Our Understanding of Human History

If you don't trust science, then you shouldn't trust anyone. They'll miss you at the weather club meeting. Don't bother going to a doctor, their whole business is based in science.

fdpaq0580 08-17-2023 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2246694)
You'd be surprised how many requested this talk.

Actually, very little surprises me any more.

golfing eagles 08-17-2023 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2246667)
Interesting. I think I heard:

1. Climate change is real but it's a small price to pay for the convenience of burning fossil fuels.

2. Climate change is real but we don't know the precise magnitude of how bad it will be and we like the convenience of burning fossil fuels.

3. If we use our definitions to restate what a paper claims to show then we can demonstrate that the paper doesn't show that. Oh, and we like the convenience of burning fossil fuels.

To be fair, the paper says:
Among abstracts expressing a position on AGW, 97.1% endorsed the consensus position that humans are causing global warming.
People can debate whether "humans are causing global warming" means all warming is caused by humans or whether it means the significant increase in warming is caused by humans. The video argues against the former but so would I. On the other hand, while the irrefutable proof is missing, I believe the latter.

But what you didn't list is: "Climate change is real, but it has been going on in repetitive cycles for millions of years BEFORE we burned fossil fuels--and we still like burning them" :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Bill14564 08-17-2023 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2246742)
But what you didn't list is: "Climate change is real, but it has been going on in repetitive cycles for millions of years BEFORE we burned fossil fuels--and we still like burning them" :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

I didn't hear that; I guess I need to go back and listen more carefully.

I will say that I agree with that as an explanation for part of the warming. What I don't see in that statement and I can't get out of my mind is the correlation between the increase in CO2 and the increase in the *rate* of warming. Could be a coincidence, that happens, but it could also be more.

Has AGW been proven to be the cause of the increase in rate? Not sure about that. Plenty of models and explanations for why AGW *could* be the cause though.

Worth spending $100T on? Now we're really into speculation and opinion. Renewable power, less dependence on fossil fuels, cleaner vehicles are all worth exploring. Waiting for China or India to invest in the research and development is a lost cause. Getting ahead of the game and driving the price down so that India and China can afford the "green" solutions? We're back into opinions again but that might be worthwhile.

Topspinmo 08-17-2023 12:59 PM

IMO the problem with climate too many humans and too many corn, soybeans fields, strip mines, cattle farms, fishing boats the dredge the oceans. Too many termite mounds, and many more. But overpopulation and deforestation NO 1 IMO.

golfing eagles 08-17-2023 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2246760)
IMO the problem with climate too many humans and too many corn, soybeans fields, strip mines, cattle farms, fishing boats the dredge the oceans. Too many termite mounds, and many more. But overpopulation and deforestation NO 1 IMO.

Don't forget too many farting cows :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Cybersprings 08-17-2023 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2246707)
If you don't trust science, then you shouldn't trust anyone. They'll miss you at the weather club meeting. Don't bother going to a doctor, their whole business is based in science.

That's just it. It's not science, it's just their current guess. So you trust them completely when they say the first thing is the truth and you trust them completely when they say that was wrong this new thing is the absolute truth? I didn't say I don't trust science. I don't trust people who claim to know what happened a million years ago and what will happen 50 years from now.

jimjamuser 08-17-2023 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2245959)
Hear a new talk at the Weather Club, "We Live In The Pleistocene Ice Age" on August 17 at 1:30 PM at Laurel Manor. We live in the coldest period of Earth's 4.5 billion year history. It's called the Pleistocene Ice Age, which started 2.5 million years ago; and with few exceptions, each Ice Age glaciation gets colder and colder. Before the Pleistocene, the Earth had no permanent ice caps - but now we do. Even though we are in an Interglacial Warming Period, many glaciers continue to grow.

Somehow when I think of this particular Weather Club.....the concept of "cone of uncertainty" comes to mind.
.......To be serious. If you Google, "is Antarctica losing mass (melting)? You get to NASA (.com) where you see the statement. Antarctica is melting at an average rate of 150 BILLION tons per year. Greenland's loss is even greater.....losing about 270 BILLION tons per year, adding to sea level rise.
........NASA satellites show that the land ice sheets in Greenland and Antarctica have been LOSING mass since 2002.

jimjamuser 08-17-2023 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sounding (Post 2245959)
Hear a new talk at the Weather Club, "We Live In The Pleistocene Ice Age" on August 17 at 1:30 PM at Laurel Manor. We live in the coldest period of Earth's 4.5 billion year history. It's called the Pleistocene Ice Age, which started 2.5 million years ago; and with few exceptions, each Ice Age glaciation gets colder and colder. Before the Pleistocene, the Earth had no permanent ice caps - but now we do. Even though we are in an Interglacial Warming Period, many glaciers continue to grow.

Logically speaking, why would ANYONE believe that worldwide - glaciers are increasing? Last July was the warmest in RECORDED history and that trend is predicted by close to 100 % of all scientists to continue for the next 8 years. And it is part of MAN-MADE Global Warming. This can be proved by the increase in the ocean level worldwide that has gone up rapidly in the last few years. Also related is the CO2 increase both the oceans and in the upper atmosphere. This logically has happened because the RAPID population increase worldwide has caused humans to cut down forests and the Amazon Rain Forest, which in years past could absorb any extra CO2. And logically most CO2 production is from Internal Combustion automobile engines.

fishon 08-17-2023 02:10 PM

If the goal is depopulation, show your commitment by leading the way and being an example to others.
By and by, I’ll let you know if it works.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:37 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.32 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.