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Bobnfl 10-02-2023 05:04 PM

Weight Loss-Semiglutide Injections
 
Has anyone tried this as a weight loss. Where did you go and what was the approx. cost.

Toymeister 10-02-2023 05:49 PM

Through a local Dr. Cash price at Walmart for this drug is 1,100 monthly. It is effective.

Through a telemed US based Dr. It's 297 a month Henrymeds.com.

Robbb 10-02-2023 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobnfl (Post 2262129)
Has anyone tried this as a weight loss. Where did you go and what was the approx. cost.

I tried if for several months and I found it to be very helpful. Its not a miracle drug but it totally quiets the noise you hear telling you to eat. You never feel ravenously hungry and, for me at least it totally stopped evening eating. With exercise I could easy see how someone could lose 2 lbs a week if not a little more. It's a game changer.

Robbb 10-02-2023 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Toymeister (Post 2262133)
Through a local Dr. Cash price at Walmart for this drug is 1,100 monthly. It is effective.

Through a telemed US based Dr. It's 297 a month Henrymeds.com.

Are they legitimate?

Toymeister 10-03-2023 06:52 AM

Yes, they are legitimate. No insurance is honored at Henrymeds. It's a cash (visa) business.

Robbb 10-03-2023 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Toymeister (Post 2262221)
Yes, they are legitimate. No insurance is honored at Henrymeds. It's a cash (visa) business.

Good to know. I don't believe Medicare covers any of these new drugs. I read an article that said to do so would bankrupt Medicare.

Whitley 10-03-2023 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Toymeister (Post 2262133)
Through a local Dr. Cash price at Walmart for this drug is 1,100 monthly. It is effective.

Through a telemed US based Dr. It's 297 a month Henrymeds.com.

Is it more effective than phentermine?

tophcfa 10-03-2023 10:15 AM

Whatever happened to exercise and a good diet? Perhaps I’m missing something, but taking medication to control weight doesn’t sound optimal to me?

njbchbum 10-03-2023 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2262319)
Whatever happened to exercise and a good diet? Perhaps I’m missing something, but taking medication to control weight doesn’t sound optimal to me?

Dr always told me that the best exercise for weight loss was pushing myself away from the table!

frayedends 10-03-2023 03:38 PM

It's true exercise is not the fastest for weight loss. But when I went keto I lost the weight and then gained so much energy I was exercising for fun (hiking mostly).

Of course, with all diets, it's easy to fall off the wagon. Carbs are so addicting, a few cheat meals on vacation or sugary cocktails and I'm right back to eating carbs. So I need to get back on track. But I'll never take medication for weight loss. Too many side affects.

OBRight 10-03-2023 03:47 PM

This was originally developed as a drug for people with type 2 diabetes then later discovered it was also useful for weight loss. A couple years ago when people started using it for weight loss it became very difficult for diabetics to get, I know I had to do without a couple times while the manufacturer was trying to catch up. Our real estate lady was doing it for weight loss at a local clinic here and had amazing results.

Stu from NYC 10-03-2023 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OBRight (Post 2262404)
This was originally developed as a drug for people with type 2 diabetes then later discovered it was also useful for weight loss. A couple years ago when people started using it for weight loss it became very difficult for diabetics to get, I know I had to do without a couple times while the manufacturer was trying to catch up. Our real estate lady was doing it for weight loss at a local clinic here and had amazing results.

People are now using ozempic which has its own set of side effects.

Robbb 10-03-2023 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2262402)
It's true exercise is not the fastest for weight loss. But when I went keto I lost the weight and then gained so much energy I was exercising for fun (hiking mostly).

Of course, with all diets, it's easy to fall off the wagon. Carbs are so addicting, a few cheat meals on vacation or sugary cocktails and I'm right back to eating carbs. So I need to get back on track. But I'll never take medication for weight loss. Too many side affects.

What are the side effects of being overweight.

tophcfa 10-03-2023 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbb (Post 2262431)
What are the side effects of being overweight.

Laziness and lack of discipline.

JRcorvette 10-03-2023 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobnfl (Post 2262129)
Has anyone tried this as a weight loss. Where did you go and what was the approx. cost.

OMG… don’t this stuff. If you want to loose weight just stop eating carbohydrates and sugar (that includes most all fruits). You will loose a lot of weight and you will be HEALTHY!

manaboutown 10-03-2023 10:24 PM

When I want to lose weight I simply ingest fewer calories Easy peasy. Unnecessarily taking drugs which have side effects is not for me. Self discipline is the answer.

PersonOfInterest 10-04-2023 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by JRcorvette (Post 2262437)
OMG… don’t this stuff. If you want to loose weight just stop eating carbohydrates and sugar (that includes most all fruits). You will loose a lot of weight and you will be HEALTHY!

And all an alcoholic has to do is stop drinking alcohol. And all an anorexic has to do is eat some food. Most people with a weight problem are dealing with an addiction or an eating disorder.

MidWestIA 10-04-2023 06:40 AM

effects
 
ENJOYING the foods and drinks you really like

gwenhwalker@yahoo.com 10-04-2023 06:56 AM

UHC with Medicare it is $45 per month at Walgreens. Have lost 12# in 7 weeks

Egandi 10-04-2023 08:31 AM

Can you share which medication you are taking? If UHC with Medicare it is $45 a month, I will ask my doctor for a prescription today! (Please text me at 585-721-2522)

mary_s_a 10-04-2023 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by gwenhwalker@yahoo.com (Post 2262485)
UHC with Medicare it is $45 per month at Walgreens. Have lost 12# in 7 weeks

Who is prescribing and what medication are you taking?

Moesly 10-04-2023 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2262436)
Laziness and lack of discipline.

Wow.

Moesly 10-04-2023 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by JRcorvette (Post 2262437)
OMG… don’t this stuff. If you want to loose weight just stop eating carbohydrates and sugar (that includes most all fruits). You will loose a lot of weight and you will be HEALTHY!

Don't you think people have already tried this? Lots of folks have tried so many different things to lose weight and it hasn't worked for them. All the critics make it sound so easy. If it were easy nobody would be overweight.

manaboutown 10-04-2023 09:20 AM

A fellow I know who moved here from India was visited by his observant brother who commented "What a country! Even the poor people get to be fat!".

Actually it is our diet, especially fast food, which is loaded with sugar, fat and salt and comes in huge servings. Many people, poor and rich alike (think Warren Buffett), eat regularly at McDonalds, KFC and the like. That can lead to obesity.

Over the last 60 years my weight has varied plus or minus 10 pounds from what my MD tells me is a healthy weight for me. When I want to lose I eat more salad and cut back on higher calorie food such as sweets. I only eat a hamburger or french fries a couple times a year, usually at an airport or at a pit stop on a road trip and I order a small side of fries.

I remember my first trip to France. The portions served at restaurants were a fraction of what is served in the USA. They were sufficient and satisfying. Too, back in the 1950s the hamburgers were smaller and the side of fries much less than what I see today. Also Coca Cola at the soda fountain and in bottles came in much smaller portions. That was way before I ever saw obese people waddling around with Big Gulps clenched in their fists. Folks, it's portion control!

Now some people may not be able to control their appetites and may benefit from Overeaters Anonymous or other support groups. I know a few for whom their weight has been a long term struggle.

tophcfa 10-04-2023 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2262541)
A fellow I know who moved here from India was visited by his observant brother who commented "What a country! Even the poor people get to be fat!".

Carbs are cheap, healthy food is expensive.

Blondesare 10-04-2023 09:34 AM

I found a great option as I didn't want to take drugs. Most drugs have a lot of side effects and quit working after you stop using them. I went to Florida Weight Loss Experts, they have office in The Villages on 466. It's $1600 for a 4 month program with a coach. You eat real food protein, veggies and fruit. They help you learn how to eat for your body. I've lost about 30 lbs in 45 days, increased my muscle mass and 3-5 inches off my body. I think worth talking to them before taking injections.

frayedends 10-04-2023 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbb (Post 2262431)
What are the side effects of being overweight.

That’s a valid point. But the side effects of being overweight generally take years to result in major issues and all can be cured by cutting out sugar, carbs along with some intermittent fasting. Instead doctors are prescribing dangerous drugs. Ozempic makes people lose muscle and bone density. That’s not how you want to lose weight. Take a look at the side effects. Why would anyone choose to take this stuff?

Ozempic Side Effects: Common, Severe, Long Term

frayedends 10-04-2023 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by PersonOfInterest (Post 2262454)
And all an alcoholic has to do is stop drinking alcohol. And all an anorexic has to do is eat some food. Most people with a weight problem are dealing with an addiction or an eating disorder.

Totally not true. I guess you could call carbs an addiction. But what we are dealing with is a crappy American diet that pushes carbs as a main source of calories. It’s not easy to eat anywhere but home and not be inundated with crappy food. It can be overcome. But it does take discipline. What I can say is in my experience every single person I’ve ever met taking pills or having surgery has gained the weight back. Those things will never work without a lifestyle change. But a lifestyle change will work without those things. It’s not easy but it can be done.

Driller703 10-04-2023 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobnfl (Post 2262129)
Has anyone tried this as a weight loss. Where did you go and what was the approx. cost.

The OP asked if anyone had tried it and what did it cost. The thread gets filled with What I did, I don’t take drugs, Just use this or that diet, etc. etc.
The OP doesn’t care about what you think or what you did or do. They just wanted two simple questions answered, and had to wade through all the irrelevant posts to try and find it.

CTKID 10-04-2023 11:02 AM

Slow digestion vs reduced hunger perception
 
First off - Do your own research and talk with your doctor. Any of us keyboard jockeys can make a mistake. You will feel more confident that you understand the information and can make an informed decision.

I looked into GLP-1 drugs (Wegovy & others) vs Norepinephene (Phentermine).

GLP-1 drugs slow digestion which delays message being sent that we are hungry while Norepinephine drugs alter the message sent saying we are hungry.

GLP-1 drugs can be taken for longer periods of time while Norepinephene are typically limited to 12 weeks. There are ways around the 12 week time frame but you want to understand the risks you are taking.

Aspirating while on GLP-1 drugs and under anesthesia has been written up as a risk so if you are planning on a surgery do your research.

Again, just have a quick discussion with your doctor. I recommend doing a web search (GLP-1 vs Phentermine then click on the additional questions below and read - maybe 20 minutes). Do this before you meet with your doctor. You will be more educated and can ask a couple of questions then just listen.

Your safety is worth 20 minutes of your time and a short doctor discussion.

I went with Phentermine and am averaging just under 2lbs loss per week. I cannot exercise to burn more calories (total hip replacement coming) and I eat virtually anything I want. I no longer have that message always saying I am hungry so I eat less often and my portions are smaller. If I could exercise my weight loss would definitely be greater but pending surgery impacted my ability to exercise and potential issue with aspiration during operation.

Hope it helps. Call your doctor.

frayedends 10-04-2023 11:14 AM

We aren’t trying to derail the thread. We just are genuinely concerned about people resorting to dangerous drugs for weight loss. They never work long term. The doctors are in bed with the pharma companies. I haven’t had a doctor in 20 years that didn’t immediately push prescriptions on me rather than talk about diet and nutrition. I researched, went very low carb and lost 30 lbs in 2 months. I cured my blood pressure and pre-diabetes in that time. As I said, I fell off the wagon a bit but I’m still nowhere near where I was. This thread has me motivated to get back on track.

Robbb 10-04-2023 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2262569)
We aren’t trying to derail the thread. We just are genuinely concerned about people resorting to dangerous drugs for weight loss. They never work long term. The doctors are in bed with the pharma companies. I haven’t had a doctor in 20 years that didn’t immediately push prescriptions on me rather than talk about diet and nutrition. I researched, went very low carb and lost 30 lbs in 2 months. I cured my blood pressure and pre-diabetes in that time. As I said, I fell off the wagon a bit but I’m still nowhere near where I was. This thread has me motivated to get back on track.

Maybe they are prescribed because they work. Every diet works 100% of the time....for 3 weeks.

Bobnfl 10-04-2023 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Driller703 (Post 2262561)
The OP asked if anyone had tried it and what did it cost. The thread gets filled with What I did, I don’t take drugs, Just use this or that diet, etc. etc.
The OP doesn’t care about what you think or what you did or do. They just wanted two simple questions answered, and had to wade through all the irrelevant posts to try and find it.

Driller703 you hit the nail on the head. But there are always people who want to tell you are wrong and instruct you on what to do. Good thing I don't listen to all the IKEs (I know everything) people. Since they are full of themselves.
Take care and keep it going.

DAVES 10-04-2023 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobnfl (Post 2262129)
Has anyone tried this as a weight loss. Where did you go and what was the approx. cost.

Weight loss is a problem for many. It is also very profitable for many. Easy, it is not. It is simple though. Eat less and get more exercise. Eating out is a killer for many Villagers. Mom taught me to eat it all. They always serve more than you should eat. Eat it all? A buffet?

I gotta quit posting and take my bike out. Aside a bike ride is roughly 600 calories. Walking uses more calories per mile. You need to walk 18 miles to loose a pound.

DAVES 10-04-2023 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobnfl (Post 2262598)
Driller703 you hit the nail on the head. But there are always people who want to tell you are wrong and instruct you on what to do. Good thing I don't listen to all the IKEs (I know everything) people. Since they are full of themselves.
Take care and keep it going.

That of course depends. I find some people choose to defend what they think they know. They are talking to themselves.

I have few friends. My definition of a friend is someone who can tell you, you are wrong and you are not offended but realize they may well be right.

I received an e-mail from a NO LONGER FRIEND, all my friend agree with me and I am unfriending you. Too many people are talking to themselves. Where we are and how we got here.

DAVES 10-04-2023 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbb (Post 2262577)
Maybe they are prescribed because they work. Every diet works 100% of the time....for 3 weeks.

That is why weight loss is a problem. All plans work. People last 3-4 weeks and then stop cheat etc
A lifestyle change is far more difficult yet far healthier.

Robbb 10-04-2023 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2262551)
Totally not true. I guess you could call carbs an addiction. But what we are dealing with is a crappy American diet that pushes carbs as a main source of calories. It’s not easy to eat anywhere but home and not be inundated with crappy food. It can be overcome. But it does take discipline. What I can say is in my experience every single person I’ve ever met taking pills or having surgery has gained the weight back. Those things will never work without a lifestyle change. But a lifestyle change will work without those things. It’s not easy but it can be done.

You are missing the point. All diets work 100% of the time...for 3 weeks. After that 100% of diets fail leaving the patient in as bad or worse shape than before. The reality is medications work, diet is not a realistic solution because virtually no one is able to stay on diet for a long period of time.

Robbb 10-04-2023 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CTKID (Post 2262566)
First off - Do your own research and talk with your doctor. Any of us keyboard jockeys can make a mistake. You will feel more confident that you understand the information and can make an informed decision.

I looked into GLP-1 drugs (Wegovy & others) vs Norepinephene (Phentermine).

GLP-1 drugs slow digestion which delays message being sent that we are hungry while Norepinephine drugs alter the message sent saying we are hungry.

GLP-1 drugs can be taken for longer periods of time while Norepinephene are typically limited to 12 weeks. There are ways around the 12 week time frame but you want to understand the risks you are taking.

Aspirating while on GLP-1 drugs and under anesthesia has been written up as a risk so if you are planning on a surgery do your research.

Again, just have a quick discussion with your doctor. I recommend doing a web search (GLP-1 vs Phentermine then click on the additional questions below and read - maybe 20 minutes). Do this before you meet with your doctor. You will be more educated and can ask a couple of questions then just listen.

Your safety is worth 20 minutes of your time and a short doctor discussion.

I went with Phentermine and am averaging just under 2lbs loss per week. I cannot exercise to burn more calories (total hip replacement coming) and I eat virtually anything I want. I no longer have that message always saying I am hungry so I eat less often and my portions are smaller. If I could exercise my weight loss would definitely be greater but pending surgery impacted my ability to exercise and potential issue with aspiration during operation.

Hope it helps. Call your doctor.

Please stop making sense, it gets in they way of us reading stupid comments.

manaboutown 10-04-2023 05:46 PM

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LianneMigiano 10-04-2023 05:58 PM

Very plentiful!!!!!
 
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Originally Posted by Robbb (Post 2262431)
What are the side effects of being overweight.

I have fought the weight loss battle all my life. I was 110 in 6th grade and 148 in 8th grade. Most of my adult life my weight sat around the 150 mark until I quit smoking when my Mom was diagnosed with lung cancer. I went up to 195 before she died 11 months later. From there I hit 225 in the next 12 years before I had gastric bypass surgery in 2003. That brought me down to 130 in 2 years (I'm only 5' 1" so that's a perfect weight for me). I kept most of it off - even throughout the pandemic. Severe back issues kept me non-exercising for the most of 2022-23 and I was back to 155+. I had major back surgery in JUL and only lost 5 pounds. Getting up out of bed/chairs/car seats is hard when you're tender from surgery and overweight to boot. Losing weight when you're 82 years old is hard. That weight makes you miserable. It makes it hard to move the way you need to. It presses on nerves sometimes. And it looks awful. Nothing that you put on looks good anymore. Depressing, too!


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