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2newyorkers 10-03-2023 07:38 AM

Golf Cart path to Middleton
 
Does anyone know if you can ride your golf cart to the new high school in Middleton?

frayedends 10-03-2023 08:02 AM

I don’t believe so until southern oaks bridge opens.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 10-03-2023 08:14 AM

The Southern Oaks Bridge is open. There is a golf cart tunnel somewhere under Central Parkway.

kansasr 10-03-2023 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 2newyorkers (Post 2262240)
Does anyone know if you can ride your golf cart to the new high school in Middleton?

I drove over the bridge last Friday and the golf cart bridge was still blocked off.

JMintzer 10-03-2023 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 2262263)
The Southern Oaks Bridge is open. There is a golf cart tunnel somewhere under Central Parkway.

Unfortunately, once you cross the bridge, there are no open MMPs to go south to Middleton...

Probably by years end, they'll be open...

frayedends 10-03-2023 03:17 PM

I did not hear that Southern Oaks Bridge opened the golf cart path, only the vehicle part. News to me.

JMintzer 10-03-2023 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2262395)
I did not hear that Southern Oaks Bridge opened the golf cart path, only the vehicle part. News to me.

Last I heard is it is NOT yet open to cart traffic...

John Mayes 10-03-2023 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2262414)
Last I heard is it is NOT yet open to cart traffic...

You’re right. It is not open to cart traffic. I think they are making some progress on the Corbin trail portion of the MMP. My guess is that will open much before the rest of the MMP’s open south of that point.

Papa_lecki 10-03-2023 05:29 PM

Just drove down there sunday, in a car.

MMP is not open yet.

It is an impressive campus, would recommend a quick trip down.

Altavia 10-03-2023 06:58 PM

They were cleaning up MMP's between the bridge and at least Eastport today.

Papa_lecki 10-03-2023 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2262321)
Unfortunately, once you cross the bridge, there are no open MMPs to go south to Middleton...

Probably by years end, they'll be open...

Makes sense, they will want traffic down there as they show new properties and as the plan to open Eastport.

TomPerry 10-04-2023 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 2newyorkers (Post 2262240)
Does anyone know if you can ride your golf cart to the new high school in Middleton?

I don’t think Middleton will be connected to The Villages by golf cart. It is a non-age restricted community intended for younger families.

Altavia 10-04-2023 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by TomPerry (Post 2262464)
I don’t think Middleton will be connected to The Villages by golf cart. It is a non-age restricted community intended for younger families.

MMP's connect Middleton to Eastport which is also connected to the rest of the Villages.

The MMP's and tunnels are already there.

Kelevision 10-04-2023 07:22 AM

It might be a while before Middleton will be accessible by golf cart. You have to cross through 470 and it’s pretty dangerous now with the traffic and trucks. Definitely worth a drive down in a car. I live by sawgrass and it took me around 15 minutes in my car to get there.

Txcottage 10-04-2023 07:29 AM

Living in Marsh Bend, I just don’t see a way to get to Middleton in a golf cart.

KenLee100 10-04-2023 08:01 AM

Golf Carts to Middleton
 
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Originally Posted by 2newyorkers (Post 2262240)
Does anyone know if you can ride your golf cart to the new high school in Middleton?

Not Yet.

tophcfa 10-04-2023 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 2newyorkers (Post 2262240)
Does anyone know if you can ride your golf cart to the new high school in Middleton?

Be careful what you ask for, if you can get there then they can get to where you live and use the amenities near your home.

platinum60 10-04-2023 11:59 AM

Golf Cart Accessible
 
Yes, Middleton will be golf cart accessible in the future, the homes being built have golf cart garages. There will not be an amenity fee, thus non-age restricted resident ID's are limited to Middleton amenities only.

Altavia 10-04-2023 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Kelevision (Post 2262500)
It might be a while before Middleton will be accessible by golf cart. You have to cross through 470 and it’s pretty dangerous now with the traffic and trucks. Definitely worth a drive down in a car. I live by sawgrass and it took me around 15 minutes in my car to get there.

Tunnels are are already in place under 470.

Attached is a 2021 map showing MMP's planned.

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Vermilion Villager 10-04-2023 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Txcottage (Post 2262505)
Living in Marsh Bend, I just don’t see a way to get to Middleton in a golf cart.

Go to Magnolia Plaza and take the MMP under Warm Springs. :gc:

Marathon Man 10-04-2023 08:06 PM

So how long will it take to get from Middleton to Calumet Grove by golf cart?

Papa_lecki 10-04-2023 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2262543)
Be careful what you ask for, if you can get there then they can get to where you live and use the amenities near your home.

That’s probably why there’s a renewed ‘checking of IDs’ recently.

Altavia 10-05-2023 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by platinum60 (Post 2262581)
Yes, Middleton will be golf cart accessible in the future, the homes being built have golf cart garages. There will not be an amenity fee, thus non-age restricted resident ID's are limited to Middleton amenities only.

How their recreational facilities, common ground maintenance, etc. funded?

kansasr 10-05-2023 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 2262669)
So how long will it take to get from Middleton to Calumet Grove by golf cart?

Since it's 1 hour 28 minutes from Monarch Grove to Calumet Grove, once the new MMP is completed that will run along Marsh Bend Trail down to the Central Parkway and then over to Middleton, I'd say another 20 minutes, so pretty much close to 2 hours. Pack a lunch.

jmaccallum 10-05-2023 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2262706)
How their recreational facilities, common ground maintenance, etc. funded?

They don’t have Recreation Centers in Middleton per se, instead they have neighborhood parks with pools, playgrounds and other activities geared to the younger crowd. No big recreation buildings.

No VCCDD to collect and manage Amenity Fees, so instead they have an Annual Maintenance Fee paid to and managed by their CDD. The Annual Maintenance Fee starts at a little over $1,200 per year.

All the homes do have Bonds ranging from $22,000 to $42,000.

There will be golf cart connectivity into the Villages allowing Middleton residents to travel that mode to Open to the Public destinations such as Sawgrass, Eastport and the other Town Squares. The same will also allow Villagers to travel to Middleton Square and events at the High school such as football games and productions at the Tracy Performing Arts Theater.

Also, for those that are worried about an invasion of young people, Middleton isn’t the first Family Community in the Villages, it’s the fourth one. Most folks don’t even know about the other three.

Support these families, they are the ones that do all the work that allows us our Villages Lifestyle.

tophcfa 10-05-2023 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jmaccallum (Post 2262761)
Also, for those that are worried about an invasion of young people, Middleton isn’t the first Family Community in the Villages, it’s the fourth one. Most folks don’t even know about the other three.

And those would be named what and located where?

Vermilion Villager 10-05-2023 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2262543)
Be careful what you ask for, if you can get there then they can get to where you live and use the amenities near your home.

:22yikes::faint:

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 10-05-2023 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2262395)
I did not hear that Southern Oaks Bridge opened the golf cart path, only the vehicle part. News to me.

Yup, my bad. I drove over it a few weeks ago and didn't notice that the golf cart path was not open.

neilbcox 10-05-2023 09:30 AM

Bridge is only open to cars…
 
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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 2262263)
The Southern Oaks Bridge is open. There is a golf cart tunnel somewhere under Central Parkway.

Carts are now allowed across the bridge because cart paths have not been installed. They don’t want carts there yet because the amount of heavy machinery traffic…too dangerous!

jmaccallum 10-05-2023 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2262765)
And those would be named what and located where?

There is actually 4, in Sumter county Bison Valley, behind Southern Trace shopping area and Oxford Oaks behind the north Charter School complex. In Lake County Oak Meadows behind the bowling alley and Spring Arbor southeast of Del Mar.

Altavia 10-05-2023 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jmaccallum (Post 2262761)
They don’t have Recreation Centers in Middleton per se, instead they have neighborhood parks with pools, playgrounds and other activities geared to the younger crowd. No big recreation buildings.

No VCCDD to collect and manage Amenity Fees, so instead they have an Annual Maintenance Fee paid to and managed by their CDD. The Annual Maintenance Fee starts at a little over $1,200 per year.

All the homes do have Bonds ranging from $22,000 to $42,000.

There will be golf cart connectivity into the Villages allowing Middleton residents to travel that mode to Open to the Public destinations such as Sawgrass, Eastport and the other Town Squares. The same will also allow Villagers to travel to Middleton Square and events at the High school such as football games and productions at the Tracy Performing Arts Theater.

Also, for those that are worried about an invasion of young people, Middleton isn’t the first Family Community in the Villages, it’s the fourth one. Most folks don’t even know about the other three.

Support these families, they are the ones that do all the work that allows us our Villages Lifestyle.

Thanks for this info!

Will be interesting to see what goes into the Middleton commercial area. Never imagined we'd have several commercial/entertainment areas down here so soon.

And especially agree with with the last sentence.

JMintzer 10-05-2023 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2262672)
That’s probably why there’s a renewed ‘checking of IDs’ recently.

Since they can't drive from Middleton to TV yet, I doubt that's the reason...

JMintzer 10-05-2023 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by kansasr (Post 2262759)
Since it's 1 hour 28 minutes from Monarch Grove to Calumet Grove, once the new MMP is completed that will run along Marsh Bend Trail down to the Central Parkway and then over to Middleton, I'd say another 20 minutes, so pretty much close to 2 hours. Pack a lunch.

Probably less, since the times quoted on the travel Apps typically overestimate the time by 25-30%...

frayedends 10-05-2023 03:59 PM

Well, since lots are being released in Moultrie Creek, I expect the golf cart paths will be open in the 6-8 months it takes to build the houses. From a Villages sales person...

"Good afternoon,

We wanted to share with you the exciting news from our Sales Meeting today.


We will have home sites available to build Designer Homes in the Moultrie Creek neighborhood on the Shallow Creek Golf Course on Wednesday, October 18th! Here is a map of that Unit S205.V. We will continue to share more information and pricing as we get it but wanted you to know what is coming soon.

No one is allowed to access this area until Thursday, October 12th. Please let us know if you are interested in this area and we can set up a time for you to tour these wonderful home sites."

Randall55 10-05-2023 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2262904)
Well, since lots are being released in Moultrie Creek, I expect the golf cart paths will be open in the 6-8 months it takes to build the houses. From a Villages sales person...

"Good afternoon,

We wanted to share with you the exciting news from our Sales Meeting today.


We will have home sites available to build Designer Homes in the Moultrie Creek neighborhood on the Shallow Creek Golf Course on Wednesday, October 18th! Here is a map of that Unit S205.V. We will continue to share more information and pricing as we get it but wanted you to know what is coming soon.

No one is allowed to access this area until Thursday, October 12th. Please let us know if you are interested in this area and we can set up a time for you to tour these wonderful home sites."

Does anyone know the price of the bond? I am curious if it is the same price as the enclave.

frayedends 10-05-2023 08:04 PM

No idea on the bond. Lake Denham for a designer was 48K. I heard the enclave is 70K.

Here’s a bit more from the realtor. I can’t get the map posted from my phone but the description is good enough I think.


We just wanted to clarify that the homesites being released in Unit S205.V are the furthest South of the Eastport Area. They are approximately 1.5 miles Southwest of Downtown Eastport. They are close to Middleton and the new Shallow Creek Championship Golf Course and Country Club. Over the next two years there will be several neighborhoods released for sale closer to the Eastport Downtown area. We were informed today that the Downtown Eastport area will have a European Theme and is projected to be completed in three to four years. However, they are going to release this neighborhood next week. Hope the attached map helps.

The neighborhood is in the bottom left corner of the map, I have marked it with a blue circle. It is the first neighborhood being released in the village of Moultrie Creek. It is Unit S205V.
Eastport is in the left center of the map, also marked with a blue circle.

jlouther 10-05-2023 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by randall55 (Post 2262950)
does anyone know the price of the bond? I am curious if it is the same price as the enclave.

$54,091.22

Bilyclub 10-06-2023 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by jmaccallum (Post 2262792)
There is actually 4, in Sumter county Bison Valley, behind Southern Trace shopping area and Oxford Oaks behind the north Charter School complex. In Lake County Oak Meadows behind the bowling alley and Spring Arbor southeast of Del Mar.

The Oxford Oaks I know of is West of 301, a block or two South of 466. No legal cart path connection to TV and certainly not by the school.

RCJ61 10-06-2023 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jmaccallum (Post 2262761)
They don’t have Recreation Centers in Middleton per se, instead they have neighborhood parks with pools, playgrounds and other activities geared to the younger crowd. No big recreation buildings.

No VCCDD to collect and manage Amenity Fees, so instead they have an Annual Maintenance Fee paid to and managed by their CDD. The Annual Maintenance Fee starts at a little over $1,200 per year.

All the homes do have Bonds ranging from $22,000 to $42,000.

There will be golf cart connectivity into the Villages allowing Middleton residents to travel that mode to Open to the Public destinations such as Sawgrass, Eastport and the other Town Squares. The same will also allow Villagers to travel to Middleton Square and events at the High school such as football games and productions at the Tracy Performing Arts Theater.

Also, for those that are worried about an invasion of young people, Middleton isn’t the first Family Community in the Villages, it’s the fourth one. Most folks don’t even know about the other three.

Support these families, they are the ones that do all the work that allows us our Villages Lifestyle.

Great response!

golfing eagles 10-06-2023 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jmaccallum (Post 2262761)
T........

There will be golf cart connectivity into the Villages allowing Middleton residents to travel that mode to Open to the Public destinations such as Sawgrass, Eastport and the other Town Squares. The same will also allow Villagers to travel to Middleton Square and events at the High school such as football games and productions at the Tracy Performing Arts Theater.

Also, for those that are worried about an invasion of young people, Middleton isn’t the first Family Community in the Villages, it’s the fourth one. Most folks don’t even know about the other three.

Support these families, they are the ones that do all the work that allows us our Villages Lifestyle.

Yes, but the other 3 do not have golf cart connectivity. I doubt the residents of Oxford Oaks even own a golf cart. I think we all know what will happen when a bunch of teens take out a golf cart (with or without parental permission) and zoom into the main part of The Villages.


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