Middleton Golf car connectivity
 

Golf car connectivity coming on 11/17

Get ready to venture out, Middleton! We're putting the finishing touches on the Multi-Modal Trails that lead you to a variety of experiences. Choose your favorite mode of transportation and follow the trails to enjoy a day at Sawgrass Grove, Grove, an evening of entertainment in Brownwood, or a visit with friends and family. You'll soon be able to make your way along the trails, over the Southern Oaks Bridge and beyond.

Are there people living in Middleton already, I guess I didn’t realize that.

LOTS of folks there already. Phase 2 seems to be moving well.

Does this mean you will be able to go from Linden to Sawgrass on a cart without going all the way down to the Water Lilly bridge ?

Not until they finish and open the Corbin Trail extension

They are selling golf carts...............don't hold your breath, it's not an official announcement.

:posting:

LOL - "they" = The Villages

Where is Middleton in relation to Brownwood? What Villages is it near?

I can't find a map that has it on there.

Just southwest of Marshbend Trail and 470.

Here's an interactive map of the Villages.

The Villages(R) Community Map - Explore & Find Your Way Around

I thought the developer stated that Middleton residents would have their own amenities and not use ours ? Is the MMP along Meggison not the responsibility of the "District" ? I understand that some of Sawgrass is not an amenity, but the facilities at Ezell and the Putt and Play are.

It really would've been nice if they prioritized getting the golf cart paths along Corbin trail/McNeil drive up and running seeing as it would benefit so many existing villagers south of Warm Springs in getting to the Sawgrass area more directly.

You mean compared to how quickly they got the roads open to the new schools?

I'm sure GoldWingnut could estimate better but McNeil, Corbin and the MMP are paved to Bexely Trail. Probably won't open until the landscaping is in place. Maybe 2-3 months.

Connecting Reagan Rd to McNeil may not be far behind.

I was at the end of Corbin about a week ago and of course I saw 3 to 4 golf carts using it on a Sunday. The temptation is going to be there because it will save about 20 minutes getting to Sawgrass and Southern Oaks. It will also save time for those on the east side of the turnpike who are playing Executive courses in the Fenney area. An absolute deadline for opening will be next spring when the new course opens up. They will want the people south of 44 easy access to support the new course. But we all hope it is opened before then.

Middleton has its own really nice amenities locally. And probably not a lot of grumpy old farts hanging out there ;-)

I think it's great people who work and live in the Villages have access to the the commercial business.

This will help keep those businesses thriving and hopefully encourage other businesses to located here.

I agree non-resident access to recreational facilities will become a bigger problem for The Villages, and Middleton once Eastport opens.

And going the other direction also. Would make some golf courses a lot closer coming from the sawgrass area.

Your statement begs a logical question. If residents of Middleton aren’t allowed to use Villagers amenities, why are they given access to the MMP’s which are amenities?

It is likely (known fact?) that residents of Middleton will be able to access the MMPs, just as it is likely Villagers will be able to access roads and any MMPs in Middleton. It is highly unlikely that residents of Middleton will have Villager ID cards allowing them access to the Rec Centers, Executive courses, or pools in the Villages just as it is highly unlikely that my ID card will give me access to any of the Middleton amenities.

Does anyone know for sure whether the MMPs are maintained out of SLAD and amenity fees or if they are maintained by PWAC/CDD and maintenance fees?

Where does your “unlikely” information come from?

Prior reporting and logic.

Middleton was created for families and is not a 55+ community. Our amenities were created for a 55+ community and some have restrictions on those under 30 or under 19 utilizing them. It is unlikely that residents of Middleton would be charged our amenity fee to allow use of our amenities when at least some of those amenities would be unavailable to them due to the age restrictions. It is also unlikely that our amenities would be made available to a non-55+ community since that would change the nature of our community and possibly threaten its qualifying for HOPA exclusions.

Aren't the MMP's just like any road/walking path? We aren't a gated community. Anyone of any age can drive/walk throughout the Villages. I don't see the paths as amenities. Anyone can visit the squares, stores, or drive throughout the neighborhoods.

Not like any roads, those are owned and maintained by the county.

Possibly like the walking paths, those may be maintained by amenity fees.

Anyone can visit the squares, stores, or drive on the public/county roads throughout the neighborhoods, but those are public areas which the MMPs may not be.

You are correct that anyone can drive throughout the Villages roads in a car and can walk on the paths. Driving on the MMP’s is a different story. The developer has gone through great efforts to prevent non Villagers and their guests from having golf cart access to the MMP’s. The infamous gate going to Lowels, Walmart, WaWa, etc…. from the historic section is a good example. And the MMP’s are not public ways, they are paid for by Villager’s amenity fees and when costs are involved (signage, painting lines, speed bumps, etc…) it involves the Project Wide Advisory Committee and/or the Amenity Authority Committee depending on the location.

I just bought and am only part time, so I don't know what the gates are at Lowes and Walmart. But I don't expect there will be any hindrance to Middleton folks using the MMPs to get to other town squares. It seems silly to me to consider the golf cart path an amenity that only seniors can use (outside of Middleton).

Good grief. Get over it. Who cares if the Middleton residents use the MMP’s.

When we came for our first visit in 2007, Residents of family areas had access to roads, mmp’s, and those who worked as VLS, have a gate card.

Rumor prior to Middleton being sold, was the possibility of amenity fees for residents of Middleton, but for some reason, never materialized. Although one has to wonder the many VLS reps that own homes as investment properties, would have access to resident passes because they are paying amenities fees.

However the HS swim team has used TV pool for swim practice since the team was formed. Has it caused issues and grumbling of residents in that area, at times, YES, but once the Olympic pool is ready, do you think the senior swim competition could be at the new pool? Maybe

A poster has stated that they felt out of place while walking in Middletons pools, and park. But I would attribute that to Moms being very protective of their children while an out of place male was walking around the area.

Maintenance of the infrastructure is provided through an annual assessment of the benefitting properties in Middleton.

https://myfamilydistrict.org/middleton-downtown/


"EXHIBIT A" - in this document defines what will be maintained by Middleton.

https://myfamilydistrict.org/wp-cont...DD-2023-09.pdf


Additional information regarding the Middleton Downtown Community Development District that was established pursuant to the provisions of Florida Statutes Chapter 190 and City of Wildwood Ordinance O2023-2 on March 27, 2023.

https://myfamilydistrict.org/wp-cont...nce-2023-2.pdf

Maintenance of the infrastructure is provided through an annual assessment of the benefitting properties in Middleton.

Middleton Downtown - VCCDD Family Districts


"EXHIBIT A" - in this document defines what will be maintained by Middleton.

https://myfamilydistrict.org/wp-cont...DD-2023-09.pdf


Additional information regarding the Middleton Downtown Community Development District that was established pursuant to the provisions of Florida Statutes Chapter 190 and City of Wildwood Ordinance O2023-2 on March 27, 2023.

https://myfamilydistrict.org/wp-cont...nce-2023-2.pdf

Huh- There are people living there? We went to look at the school a few nights ago and noticed all the streets near the school are barricaded.

Several hundred homes sold/occupied.

Open houses daily.

November Open Houses - Middleton

The barricades you saw were to block areas under construction and/or control access to the schools. Directions are in the link above.

Well said.

The Southern Oaks Bridge is now open to golf cars! The wire fence has been removed.

Connecting to Middleton.

Corbin Trail is still under construction.

If you have lived in the Villages for many years, you would understand. We have had to fight the Developer in court on several occasions. For us, this feels like a possible "Oh no! Here we go, AGAIN!' It is difficult to explain via a post. If you have questions or concerns, do some research.

I’ve lived here many years. You?

I have been here since 2001. I am not trying to stir up old news. I am just stating that the Developer has made mistakes. It strikes a nerve in me when new residents believe the Villages is some sort of magical land where there are no problems. If anyone sees a problem, they are quickly seen as miserable human beings. Hate to break it you! The Villages is not free of problems. Never has been and never will be. We work it out, learn, and move on. There is no need to pretend.

Like other posters, I see problems with Middleton using our MMP paths on a daily basis. Who is going to monitor unattended children to make certain they behave safely and responsibly on them? We have some CRAZY (sometimes drunk) drivers on our paths. Is it a good idea to put children in the mix? I can list more of my concerns but I will stop there. I guess I will have to trust the parents to handle these issues. Hopefully, most are smart enough not to allow their children, even their teens, to meander freely.

The developer has done a lot more right than wrong. If you looking to stop growth and go back to the way it was in 2001it will never happen. Growth will occur and the developer will try new things. Middleton is for all the workers who serve you on a daily basis. I think it is fantastic they have a neighborhood so close to the new schools. I look forward to meeting and talking to them at Eastport.

In Florida now anyone driving a golf cart must have a drivers license unless an adult is with them then they must have a learners permit. The teens I have been around here have been responsible and polite. Could some teen drive recklessly on the MMP? Of course, but I would bet money on it being an old drunk person running into you in their golf cart and not a teen. If you live north of 44 you are way overestimating the risk and the risk is pretty low even south of 44.

NO.

According to HB949, no one needs to have a driver's license to drive a golf cart.
- Under 18 must have a valid learner's permit (or license but a permit is sufficient)
- Over 18 must have a valid government-issued photographic ID (a license is not required)

Nowhere does the statute require an adult be present.

Strangely worded statute?

"... water control district to designate certain roads for use by golf carts" ???

Are "MMP's" regarded as roads under the statute?

Probably yet another statute that will seldom if ever be enforced until too late.

In other places, 10 year olds take city buses and ride on subways unattended. I'm sure that they can handle walking on a MMP, although I'm not sure why they would be interested in going outside of Middleton anyways.