New 2 Golf Cart Limit
 

How is the new mandate that only allows 2 golf carts per group working out for you?

First day or two, "supervision" was available for the battles.

Now that supervision is gone, most starters don't care.

It's not "new", it's the same as it was for many years pre-pandemic.

Yes, exactly. Two times I had a tee time in the past and did not get to play. I chose to return home. The time had 2 openings. I chose a time, that made a threesome. When I checked it I was directed to get into the cart of a man sitting in the driver's seat smoking a cigar. I have no problem with that in general, but I personally don't want to sit next to that in a golf cart. I was very careful to discretely tell the starter I had no objections to playing with two gentlemen, but would be more comfortable just taking my own car. Told that was impossible and was told to put my things on the cart next to the cigar smoker. I asked if perhaps one of the gentlemen could just be told to bring their clubs and put on my cart so I could decline someone asking to smoke in the cart. Answer was "no", that is up to the starter to assign how these things are settled and the twosome checked in first. So, got my bag and proceeded to the 2nd man's cart. As I approached they were having the most vulgar conversation you can imagine. I am no Victorian prude but this was just too much (discussing one man's ex-wife in really shocking terms). I quietly went back and told the starter "This is just not going to workout, is there any other option, maybe be assigned to a group going off after my time ?". Looked at his sheet and told me no openings, so my choice was to get on one the carts of the two individuals, or, go home. I went home, thought it over, and decided to go have a calm, UN-argumentative talk with the golf admin. office about how such things are regulated as to civil language and smoking, etc. At public courses I found the marshals are on top of such things, but having no course marshals here (years ago I was shocked to find they only have "ambassadors" but didn't give it much thought really), I never expected to run into such situations of having no right to ride alone due to the 2 cart rule. Also surprised to fine he who checks in first has the choice to be the driver and not have to move his/her clubs to another cart. I have only had two instances of this in all these years so, while annoying to have plans and be given the choice of riding with a smoker or a person with a habit of fowl language, I consider it fortunate. When my husband could no longer play, I found most golfers to be warm, welcoming, polite and willing to ride in my cart or theirs. However, when it changed to being able to ride alone if you wished, I was so hopeful that it would not revert to the "old" two cart rule. I realize on exec courses anyone always has the choice of renting a walking cart to avoid unpleasant circumstances such as smoking, etc. so I am not furious, or angry, just sorry to see this return because most times it is a pleasant way to meet new friends. I do think the ability to check gender of players if you pay for the one line reservation system is a great feature, but never thought it was critical until I had the two "experiences".

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Wait a minute, pairadocs. Didn't I read a single walk-on could take his/her own cart so long as the one-in-the-rough rule is observed. The other day I asked one of the management crew and he confirmed this.

Probably one of those starters exercising his supposed superiority. It amazes how a fellow villager can be such an ass ! It just makes the good guys look bad……..

You are exactly right. IF the "3rd cart" reservation is a different # than the original booking for the Tee Time, you can take a 3rd cart. No questions, no justifications.

I don't play Exec courses, so I don't know how it applies there, but on the Championship courses, I've had no problem with the situation, at Mallory, Palmer, Cane Garden & TDS. That's all I've been to, since the recent update to the policy.

goes to show you give a inch people will take foot

Cart path only should be acceptable for executive courses. Don’t understand paying for a trail fee and not able to use personal cart.

They can’t force you to ride with a smoker, period dot.

in the executive courses, you can still have 4 carts per foursome, BUT only 2 can be on the fairway of a par 4. Championship courses are different though. Only 2 carts per foursome on the complete course. Read the posting at the starter shack for clarification.

Incorrect. Yesterday Lowlands demanded only 2 carts per foursome.

Starter made no mention of a posted policy. It should be glued to the check in window.

Exception: Only executive courses that have continuous
golf car path may allow up to four golf cars in a group with two golf cars remaining on the golf car path at all times.

Found the policy buried in the golf website. This should be on front page. The author of this policy needs to get an earful from many. A 90 degree rule solves this issue. Ridiculous.

https://www.golfthevillages.com/what...20Policies.pdf

You mean like chain you to the smoker's cart? No, they can't.

But they can designate you as a third cart (if you are on a different reservation #) and make you stay on the cart path. If you refuse, they can, like any business deny you service---as long as it is not on the basis of race, religion, etc. Period dot.

Same reservation number or not......I've seen a starter "force" and I've seen a starter understand and let it slide.

It's a power thing for the starter.......it's sad some starters.

Golf is a good walk spoiled - by golf carts (and real estate oriented course architects).

Try adding a carry bag to your cart. Perhaps when you start swapping your clubs into it the starter will relent, or the two drivers will make an accomodation?

This is not new, as stated earlier. Fortunately, I have not encountered one of the power hungry starters yet. But, if I did, I would demand a $4.00 + tax refund for my trail fee. You pay the trail fee to be able to take YOUR cart on the course. Let's open up a whole new argument!

Golf carts are extremely detrimental to championship golf courses conditions. Bermuda becomes stagnant in the winter. Notice how course employees place stakes to route traffic to diminish grass being killed. Our courses are played heavily in the winter.
The course superintendents are trying to maintain the best conditions. Will the same complainers here later complain about poor course conditions this winter?

No, you pay a trail fee to use A cart, not necessarily your own. But if you’re referring to a trail fee, you’re referring to execs where the point is moot except on the few par 4s

That is correct

You are CORRECT! But they say you can't play

Who someone who says he is MR Helpful, you seem to give out wrong information. Supervisors are available to handle problems and starters better care!

How can they enforce it? Tell them Covid is still out there & you don't want a stranger in your cart.

The rules have been posted for almost 2 months, and gee whyy do you think they went to 2 carts almost no one followed the 2 cart in the fairway rule, what makes you think the 90degree rule would be different!

LOL, let us know how your demand works out!

Easy! you won't play.

Rules were effective November 1. Don’t know where the months ago come from. Needs to be in writing. Oral representations are nonsense

Just tell the starter "cough cough" sure hope I don't have COVID. I would hate to be the one that forced me to ride with this guy. If that doesn't work, try it on the cigar smoker. JK

It went into effect 11/1, you are correct! But it was posted on the web site and signs were up at all starter buildings since the middle of September.

LOL, neither works!

it was posted at starter shacks for "months"..................that's where it come from

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I agree

How dare they enforce a pre-pandemic rule. Don't they realize the world has changed for the better since then.

If you don't like the rules, don't play. If all you do is complain about The Villages move.

Lowlands and Longleaf the exceptions to the executive course rules. The reason is there is not a continuous cart path along the par 4's

No, but they could offer you the option to go home.

Makes no sense on executive course with no par 4,s. Speeds up play

No sense on executive courses esp those without par 4’s Besides speeds up play

I've played golf for over 60 years. Two carts per foursome has been NORMAL at nearly every golf course I've played. I was astonished to come to TV and see three and four carts in a group.

If I sign up as a single, I'm playing cart roulette and I'm going to get whatever I get. That's the way it's always been. If I want more assurance about not riding with someone objectionable, then I join a regular group of friends. (Of course, even there, there's always that ONE guy...) If I truly don't want to ride with someone, as the OP describes, I can always get a rain check and play another day.

The real issue is pace of play. Having one or more golf carts having to stay in the rough means the golfer "most likely" will have to walk to his ball. Many people use range finders
so they walk to their ball, shoot the distance, then walk back to their cart to get the club they want, then walk back to the ball and hit it. Yes, they should guess the distance bring 2 or 3 clubs with them but many people do not do this. It is similar to golf path only holes. I understand why, when the course is wet, it has to be done. However, when you are then told you are behind and have to "pick up your pace of play" I have to bite my tongue to what I want to reply. I don't know how often this is going to happen, but if it is often, I predict many over the "pace of play" rounds. It is called the law of unintended consequences.

Or just carry your walking cart and say I'll just walk it.

Agreed. golf cart path should good enough to let a fee paying golfer use his own cart.especially on executive courses which have cart paths.