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gobuck827 11-12-2023 10:19 AM

Yet another roundabout thread
 
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For those who have insisted in past threads that the inside lane can never take the 1st exit (take a right), I give you the 2 new roundabouts on Buena Vista South of 44.

JMintzer 11-12-2023 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by gobuck827 (Post 2273902)
For those who have insisted in past threads that the inside lane can never take the 1st exit (take a right), I give you the 2 new roundabouts on Buena Vista South of 44.

The outside lane never becomes part the roundabout. Therefore, only one lane (the left lane) is either turning right or going straight...

Laker14 11-12-2023 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by gobuck827 (Post 2273902)
For those who have insisted in past threads that the inside lane can never take the 1st exit (take a right), I give you the 2 new roundabouts on Buena Vista South of 44.

is the right lane a bypass?

collie1228 11-12-2023 11:07 AM

What about that dotted line between the two lanes at the point of decision for a right turn?

gobuck827 11-12-2023 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2273925)
is the right lane a bypass?

No, It is within the roundabout.

gobuck827 11-12-2023 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2273916)
The outside lane never becomes part the roundabout. Therefore, only one lane (the left lane) is either turning right or going straight...

Not sure what you are looking at but, the outside lane definitely enters the roundabout, it is just forced to exit to the right (1st exit). Also, there is no straight in either of the roundabouts, it is either a right turn from the inside lane or a U turn.

Davonu 11-12-2023 11:38 AM

Different design than the 'typical' roundabout where the "can't turn right from the left lane" claims are made. Those claims are correct for the roundabouts they apply to.

CFrance 11-12-2023 12:30 PM

sigh...

Bogie Shooter 11-12-2023 01:05 PM

Is this really a round a bout?
Where are the other entrances?

mrf0151 11-12-2023 01:41 PM

So, take that right turn out of the left lane just to see how many vehicles you can hit in the right lane. Do it all you want until you find your insurance company has cancelled you.

n8xwb 11-12-2023 02:21 PM

When a knowledgeable driver makes the comment that you can never make a right turn from the inside (left) lane at the first exit they are speaking of a "normal" roundabout that has 4 exits.

coffeebean 11-12-2023 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 2273961)
sigh...

Agree......oh my!

Rainger99 11-12-2023 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by gobuck827 (Post 2273902)
For those who have insisted in past threads that the inside lane can never take the 1st exit (take a right), I give you the 2 new roundabouts on Buena Vista South of 44.

With this particular roundabout, you are correct. However, the only exits are at 3 (making a right turn) and 6 (making a u-turn). A regular roundabout has exits at 3, 6, 9, and 12.

The IMPORTANT thing is to follow the traffic signs posted at each roundabout.

Topspinmo 11-12-2023 05:28 PM

[QUOTE=gobuck827;2273902]For those who have insisted in past threads that the inside lane can never take the 1st exit (take a right), I give you the 2 new roundabouts on Buena Vista South of 44.[/QUOTE

Your picture don’t show how many exit lanes. Must be two lanes to exit. So yes as long as inside lane stays in left exit lane it can exit. Notice right HAS to exit no options.

JMintzer 11-12-2023 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by n8xwb (Post 2273988)
When a knowledgeable driver makes the comment that you can never make a right turn from the inside (left) lane at the first exit they are speaking of a "normal" roundabout that has 4 exits.

Of course they are. But the OP wanted to post a "gotcha" about the unicorn roundabout...

deputydoc 11-13-2023 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by gobuck827 (Post 2273902)
For those who have insisted in past threads that the inside lane can never take the 1st exit (take a right), I give you the 2 new roundabouts on Buena Vista South of 44.

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There are no other exits other than to come all the way around

Shacarr 11-13-2023 04:40 AM

Solution: 1) use your right or left signal before entering and exiting the roundabouts. Not 100% effective but it helps tremendously and; 2) slow down and be aware of drivers on both sides. You are driving in the Villages, many elder people.

GizmoWhiskers 11-13-2023 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by gobuck827 (Post 2273902)
For those who have insisted in past threads that the inside lane can never take the 1st exit (take a right), I give you the 2 new roundabouts on Buena Vista South of 44.

This is the Buena Vista roundabout S of 44 leading to Meggison where there is nothing on the left or straight-away to go to as of yet or possibly ever. One can go straight-ish to the left and play ring around the rosey forever... "weee wee wee".

This is a rare roundabout anomaly. One should not let this roundabout confuse the norm in T V and cause fun accidents.

banjobob 11-13-2023 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by gobuck827 (Post 2273902)
For those who have insisted in past threads that the inside lane can never take the 1st exit (take a right), I give you the 2 new roundabouts on Buena Vista South of 44.

I have no doubt a right can be made from the inside lane , whether a round about or highway only those that are are not aware of surrounding traffic or on coming traffic would be foolish enough to do it without looking.

crazygery 11-13-2023 05:40 AM

The only Round about I like was preformed by a group called Yes
 
I remember back in Chicago where they had intersections and 4 way stops.
Then the only problem you incurred was people didn’t like to stop, but it was much clearer who was at fault if you encountered a fender bender. I believe traffic circles are there just to test seniors cognitive decline. 😜

lwmilo 11-13-2023 05:55 AM

Round about
 
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Originally Posted by gobuck827 (Post 2273902)
For those who have insisted in past threads that the inside lane can never take the 1st exit (take a right), I give you the 2 new roundabouts on Buena Vista South of 44.

That’s an accident waiting to happen . Traffic design should be addressed real soon. Perhaps it was an over site?

huge-pigeons 11-13-2023 05:55 AM

This only proves: read the signs. Not only do a lot of people navigate the roundabouts wrong, a lot of people stop at each roundabout when nobody is coming. This is going to cause an accident. At most roundabouts, you can glance at the left and see no cars in sight, so you should be able to flow without much braking

Laker14 11-13-2023 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by huge-pigeons (Post 2274104)
This only proves: read the signs. Not only do a lot of people navigate the roundabouts wrong, a lot of people stop at each roundabout when nobody is coming. This is going to cause an accident. At most roundabouts, you can glance at the left and see no cars in sight, so you should be able to flow without much braking

Good points. I live near Sea Breeze, and heading east on Bailey Trail, approaching the BV roundabout, there is a decorative brick wall with some plantings around it that completely obscures one's view of the oncoming traffic, as one approaches the Yield sign. You really have to STOP, because in that split second that you can't see what's coming, well, someone could be rounding the curve.
Fortunately, there is seldom a lot of traffic coming in that direction, off of Bailey onto the roundabout, compared to one roundabout south at St. Charles (what a mess that one is!), but it's a bad design.

Laker14 11-13-2023 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by lwmilo (Post 2274103)
That’s an accident waiting to happen . Traffic design should be addressed real soon. Perhaps it was an over site?

I disagree. It's really an efficient and easy way to negotiate the intersection. In fact, you'd have to work pretty hard to screw it up.

thevillagernie 11-13-2023 06:39 AM

round abouts
 
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Originally Posted by gobuck827 (Post 2273902)
For those who have insisted in past threads that the inside lane can never take the 1st exit (take a right), I give you the 2 new roundabouts on Buena Vista South of 44.

NEVER DRIVE NEXT TO ANYONE, IN ONE. problem solved

LoisR 11-13-2023 07:06 AM

All drivers need to signal their intent regardless of what lane they are in.
I even asked TV to post "Signal Your Intent" signs upon entering all round abouts. Nothing came of that. Geeeez. Who would have thunk.

Laker14 11-13-2023 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by thevillagernie (Post 2274113)
NEVER DRIVE NEXT TO ANYONE, IN ONE. problem solved

When traffic is busy that is an unworkable solution.

Miboater 11-13-2023 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by lwmilo (Post 2274103)
That’s an accident waiting to happen . Traffic design should be addressed real soon. Perhaps it was an over site?

These roundabouts are in the area where the new section of Richmond and the commercial area that is planned. There will be more exits off of these roundabouts once the build out happens and I'm sure they will change the signs when that happens.

kcrazorbackfan 11-13-2023 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by gobuck827 (Post 2273902)
For those who have insisted in past threads that the inside lane can never take the 1st exit (take a right), I give you the 2 new roundabouts on Buena Vista South of 44.

There are no continuation of the lanes entering the roundabouts going straight, only turning right, therefore, both can safely exit right.

Dlbonivich 11-13-2023 07:51 AM

That is a bypass of the roundabout

PjLyness1965 11-13-2023 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by gobuck827 (Post 2273902)
For those who have insisted in past threads that the inside lane can never take the 1st exit (take a right), I give you the 2 new roundabouts on Buena Vista South of 44.

This is not a typical roundabout. You can only go left or right in the example you provided. In a typical roundabout the right hand lane is not a right turn only.

Singerlady 11-13-2023 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by gobuck827 (Post 2273902)
For those who have insisted in past threads that the inside lane can never take the 1st exit (take a right), I give you the 2 new roundabouts on Buena Vista South of 44.

That’s because there is nowhere else to go on those roundabouts yet.

Sandy and Ed 11-13-2023 08:23 AM

Insane!!
 
So I am traveling straight thru and approach the roundabout. The vehicle in the inside lane decides to take the first exit (might even signal his intent). I now need to be wary of that vehicle. Understand but would love to know why they changed to this signage.

Steve 11-13-2023 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by gobuck827 (Post 2273902)
For those who have insisted in past threads that the inside lane can never take the 1st exit (take a right), I give you the 2 new roundabouts on Buena Vista South of 44.

Those two roundabouts are right turn or U-turn only. Once roads get connected allowing driving straight through or exiting to the left you will see those signs replaced.

Two Bills 11-13-2023 08:38 AM

A two lane into a two lane, the only exit apart from a U-turn, what is so complicated or the problem?
This is a wind up posting.

Bill14564 11-13-2023 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy and Ed (Post 2274155)
So I am traveling straight thru and approach the roundabout. The vehicle in the inside lane decides to take the first exit (might even signal his intent). I now need to be wary of that vehicle. Understand but would love to know why they changed to this signage.

At the RAB in the original post there is no straight thru. It appears to be a one-lane RAB with the left lane entering the RAB and the right line being a right turn only.

With only a single lane in this RAB there is no inside lane. The ONLY lane of this RAB is allowed to exit to the right or continue around.

In "normal" two-lane RABs, vehicles entering from the left lane/inside lane are not allowed to take the first exit. It would be no different from making a right turn from the left lane of a four-lane highway. If they attempt this then they will possibly cause an accident.

TVTVTV 11-13-2023 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2274011)
With this particular roundabout, you are correct. However, the only exits are at 3 (making a right turn) and 6 (making a u-turn). A regular roundabout has exits at 3, 6, 9, and 12.

The IMPORTANT thing is to follow the traffic signs posted at each roundabout.

With high traffic and unfamiliar roads and the signs posted so close to the roundabout, there is no leeway to choose the lane you need in time (nor should you change lanes while in a busy roundabout). Why aren't the signs also placed further back to help unfamiliar drivers. Not all roundabouts are the same. Arrows in each lane would be beneficial also.

jimjamuser 11-13-2023 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by gobuck827 (Post 2273940)
Not sure what you are looking at but, the outside lane definitely enters the roundabout, it is just forced to exit to the right (1st exit). Also, there is no straight in either of the roundabouts, it is either a right turn from the inside lane or a U turn.

Personally, I like that system better than what happens (confusion) in the central and northern Villages. I have often maintained that the road should merge into ONE lane BEFORE entering the ONELANE roundabout. Some people say that that would slow things to a crawl. I say that as long as there is vehicle movement (not stopping) then the roundabout is BETTER than a RED light. And we would have less accidents with my proposal. AND since we are most all retired we should be able to mentally handle a slow and safe roundabout EXPERIENCE. People know HOW to MERGE, but a 2-lane roundabout is FOREIGN AND AWKWARD to new arrivals.

srswans 11-13-2023 08:59 AM

Nice example OP - thanks!

There are several special roundabouts throughout TV - gotta look at the signs for each.

44A Eastbound at Buena Vista is another - left lane must turn left - only right lane can go straight.

clossonjunk 11-13-2023 09:47 AM

jimjamuser…

There’s a roundabout in Jacksonville that is one lane like you described. It backs up for miles. People get so frustrated waiting 20-30 minutes just to reach the roundabout that they start taking way too many chances pulling into the circle so close to the other cars that accidents still happen. This, being your solution isn’t as great as you think it is and accidents still happen.


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