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frayedends 11-14-2023 06:42 AM

Beach/Lagoon coming to Eastport?
 
So watched Jerry and Linda yesterday and they had a question on a beach coming to the Villages. The question mentioned one of those Lagoon type development companies. I could swear I heard a similar rumor a few years ago.

Anyhow Jerry and Linda's answer was that they called and indeed a beach is coming to the Eastport area. I could only imagine any "beach" would be in a lagoon type pool. I would doubt a beach on the new dragon boat lake because of gators.

So what do you all think?

dewilson58 11-14-2023 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2274432)
So what do you all think?

About??

Assume you want to know "So what do you all think?" about something specific, not jus random thoughts.

:024:

Two Bills 11-14-2023 07:10 AM

Crystal Lagoons
Crystal Lagoons, in partnership with development group ADËLON Capital, has plans to bring five of these synthetic lagoon resorts to Central Florida. One will be in Sumter County near The Villages and the other will be in Lake County, though its location has not yet been disclosed.
13 Jun 2021

photo1902 11-14-2023 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2274441)
Crystal Lagoons
Crystal Lagoons, in partnership with development group ADËLON Capital, has plans to bring five of these synthetic lagoon resorts to Central Florida. One will be in Sumter County near The Villages and the other will be in Lake County, though its location has not yet been disclosed.
13 Jun 2021

Thank you. I couldn’t recall the name.

Two Bills 11-14-2023 07:16 AM

PS. Probably use the ground of the The Villages derelict Costco site!

frayedends 11-14-2023 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2274437)
About??

Assume you want to know "So what do you all think?" about something specific, not jus random thoughts.

:024:

Really? Why post a reply at all? Okay I’ll assume you really don’t know.

So what do you all think about the possibility of a lagoon/beach coming to the villages? Have you heard any rumors or news? Do you like the idea? Any other thoughts on the subject?

See dewilson, that’s how Internet forums work. Someone posts a topic and sometimes it’s a specific question and other times it’s an open ended discussion, such as my post. Unfortunately sometimes trolls post ridiculous comments/criticisms and that can make a fun subject turn into crap. So thanks.

LuvNH 11-14-2023 07:49 AM

Personally, I cannot imagine anything worse than a Beach Lagoon set up in TV. There will be so many people trying to use that facility it will turn into a major complaint ............. and that is just what we need in TV, something else to complain about!

frayedends 11-14-2023 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2274441)
Crystal Lagoons
Crystal Lagoons, in partnership with development group ADËLON Capital, has plans to bring five of these synthetic lagoon resorts to Central Florida. One will be in Sumter County near The Villages and the other will be in Lake County, though its location has not yet been disclosed.
13 Jun 2021

Based on Jerry and Linda’s answer I wonder if they are partnering with the Villages. Although I would think the developer wouldn’t need a partner.

LuvNH 11-14-2023 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2274458)
Really? Why post a reply at all? Okay I’ll assume you really don’t know.

So what do you all think about the possibility of a lagoon/beach coming to the villages? Have you heard any rumors or news? Do you like the idea? Any other thoughts on the subject?

See dewilson, that’s how Internet forums work. Someone posts a topic and sometimes it’s a specific question and other times it’s an open ended discussion, such as my post. Unfortunately sometimes trolls post ridiculous comments/criticisms and that can make a fun subject turn into crap. So thanks.

Trolls .... D.Wilson has been on this site for years and is certainly not a troll. The regular TOTV users can just read a post and know who wrote it. You would do well to just hang around and get the feel for the various posters before calling them out.

Randall55 11-14-2023 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2274458)
Really? Why post a reply at all? Okay I’ll assume you really don’t know.

So what do you all think about the possibility of a lagoon/beach coming to the villages? Have you heard any rumors or news? Do you like the idea? Any other thoughts on the subject?

See dewilson, that’s how Internet forums work. Someone posts a topic and sometimes it’s a specific question and other times it’s an open ended discussion, such as my post. Unfortunately sometimes trolls post ridiculous comments/criticisms and that can make a fun subject turn into crap. So thanks.

After reading the post, I watched Jerry and Linda. By calling a Villages sales rep, they confirmed a beach style lagoon is coming to the Villages area. Jerry said in the Eastport area. Linda quickly chimed in and said that it would be nice for the kids. Whether Eastport or Middleton, a sandy lagoon is coming to this area.

photo1902 11-14-2023 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by LuvNH (Post 2274459)
Personally, I cannot imagine anything worse than a Beach Lagoon set up in TV. There will be so many people trying to use that facility it will turn into a major complaint ............. and that is just what we need in TV, something else to complain about!

Congratulations. You're officially the first to lodge a complaint about a facility that doesn't yet exist.

:eclipsee_gold_cup:

frayedends 11-14-2023 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by LuvNH (Post 2274462)
Trolls .... D.Wilson has been on this site for years and is certainly not a troll. The regular TOTV users can just read a post and know who wrote it. You would do well to just hang around and get the feel for the various posters before calling them out.

Doesn’t matter who posts a troll post. I’ve been around forums long enough to know a troll post. It’s a discussion forum and he must know that if he’s been around a while. Unless I’m wrong and this forum only allows specific questions and answers.

dewilson58 11-14-2023 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2274458)
Really? Why post a reply at all? Okay I’ll assume you really don’t know.

Darling.............your question was wide open.

Did you hear rumors?
Is it coming?
Who will own it?
Will there be a cost?
Will you use it??
Who do I call for facts, not opinions?
Where will it be located??
Will it be year-round??
Villagers only, Villagers & Guests, Public use??
What will the capacity limit be??
Food & Drink??
Will it survive financially??
Will amenity fees pay for it??

To name a few.

There is a lot to think about.

:ho:

frayedends 11-14-2023 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2274477)
Darling.............your question was wide open.

Did you hear rumors?
Is it coming?
Who will own it?
Will there be a cost?
Will you use it??
Who do I call for facts, not opinions?
Where will it be located??
Will it be year-round??
Villagers only, Villagers & Guests, Public use??
What will the capacity limit be??
Food & Drink??
Will it survive financially??
Will amenity fees pay for it??

To name a few.

There is a lot to think about.

:ho:

Yes it was wide open. See, you just managed to come up with lots to talk about without requiring I make a specific question. Thanks. Good grief this forum is full of negative posts. I’m done. Sorry for starting a thread. Darling.

dewilson58 11-14-2023 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2274484)
You managed to come up with lots to talk about without requiring I make a specific question. Thanks.

Silly statement, but U R Welcome I guess.

:wave:

Bogie Shooter 11-14-2023 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2274484)
Yes it was wide open. See, you just managed to come up with lots to talk about without requiring I make a specific question. Thanks. Good grief this forum is full of negative posts. I’m done. Sorry for starting a thread. Darling.

Good to know when the hole is too deep…….to stop digging.:wave:

Papa_lecki 11-14-2023 09:34 AM

It was 2001. Here’s the thread

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...41/index2.html

Keep in mind, Crystal Lagoons doesn’t build the beach for the sake of the beach, it’s part of a cool system for industrial development. So along with the beach comes a large industrial complex.

kansasr 11-14-2023 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2274460)
Based on Jerry and Linda’s answer I wonder if they are partnering with the Villages. Eastport would be Lake County. Although I would think the developer wouldn’t need a partner.

Eastport is in SUMTER County

BrianL99 11-14-2023 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2274460)
Based on Jerry and Linda’s answer I wonder if they are partnering with the Villages.


People actually listen to listen to them and quote them?

I watched 2 minutes of one of their videos a couple of years ago. Reminded me of watching Captain Kangaroo in black & white, in the 50's.

photo1902 11-14-2023 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2274484)
Yes it was wide open. See, you just managed to come up with lots to talk about without requiring I make a specific question. Thanks. Good grief this forum is full of negative posts. I’m done. Sorry for starting a thread. Darling.


It’s a shame you felt the need to defend yourself simply for asking people to engage in harmless dialogue regarding a possible beach/lagoon. If people viewing your question don’t want to participate, they should simply scroll past this thread. I’m convinced that certain people want others to be as miserable as they are. Hopefully you won’t be dissuaded from making future posts.

rustyp 11-14-2023 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2274460)
Based on Jerry and Linda’s answer I wonder if they are partnering with the Villages. Eastport would be Lake County. Although I would think the developer wouldn’t need a partner.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2274601)
People actually listen to listen to them and quote them?

I watched 2 minutes of one of their videos a couple of years ago. Reminded me of watching Captain Kangaroo in black & white, in the 50's.

Pay attention to how most of these TV you tubers start their dialog:
- We are not associated with The Villages
- I am not a licensed real estate broker
- I have no formal training
- I offer no more than my own personnel experience
However I feel perfectly at ease now to give out false information based upon no research and my tenure of living in TV for (pick a number between 1-5 years).

So based upon myself doing no homework on this subject whatsoever I can tell you there will be no gators due to the fact the lake will be salt water connected directly to the Atlantic Ocean via canal just above Orlando.

MSchad 11-14-2023 02:15 PM

I recall a year or so ago, Don Wiley showed in the plans for East Port, that the far end of the lake they built for dragon boat racing was to have a beach area. Not big enough for what a company like ADËLON Capital would build. I’m guessing like the beach areas across from Sumter Landing on Palmer Legends Golf Course, more aesthetic than functional.

BrianL99 11-14-2023 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MSchad (Post 2274606)
I’m guessing like the beach areas across from Sumter Landing on Palmer Legends Golf Course, more aesthetic than functional.

There's a "beach area" on the Palmer golf course?

I'm just curious. It has to be on the Riley Grove 9, as that's the area across from Sumter Landing?

I play there frequently and never noticed the beach. I must be hitting it straight on the hole with the beach, because I've never noticed any bikini clad women when I go to hit a shot.

Bogie Shooter 11-14-2023 05:21 PM

I guess one could call a sand bunker a beach area….

Pairadocs 11-14-2023 08:40 PM

[QUOTE=frayedends;2274458]Really? Why post a reply at all? Okay I’ll assume you really don’t know.

So what do you all think about the possibility of a lagoon/beach coming to the villages? Have you heard any rumors or news? Do you like the idea? Any other thoughts on the subject?

That’s how Internet forums work. Someone posts a topic and sometimes it’s a specific question and other times it’s an open ended discussion, such as my post.

I really like that ! Open ended questions and civil written discussion, minus the emotionally laden language, name calling, overt and covert insults to others intellectual ability, education, and all the rest of it. Wonderful, I love that structure where you actually learn how others think and from what experiences they come. Hope it becomes the standard on here, and that it lasts ! So here goes:

What do I think ? So few details but from the very few described here I'd say it would be a positive addition and I would probably take advantage of it. Would it cut down on the number of trips per month I make to the Gulf, or a bit further over to Daytona or Ormand.... hummm... yes, probably. Not quite like the peace and relaxation of the ocean, but I think it would be a really nice addition to our county for everyone's enjoyment, or to the Villages as a resident's only amenity ! Now, to take this way off topic, as these discussions seem to go (just like real conversations take many turns as they continue), I would "trade" a lagoon type swimming opportunity for a big, beautiful, shiny bright line station, with FREE parking, right in the middle of the Villages at last connecting us to airports, cruise terminals, and major cities ! ! I'd vote for that !

shaw8700@outlook.com 11-14-2023 09:06 PM

I’d love a beach or lagoon. Just another one of the amenities.

margaretmattson 11-14-2023 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSchad (Post 2274606)
I recall a year or so ago, Don Wiley showed in the plans for East Port, that the far end of the lake they built for dragon boat racing was to have a beach area. Not big enough for what a company like ADËLON Capital would build. I’m guessing like the beach areas across from Sumter Landing on Palmer Legends Golf Course, more aesthetic than functional.

I watched the Jerry and Linda segment regarding this topic. One of their viewers heard Crystal Lagoon had plans to build in the Villages. To check on the accuracy of this information, Jerry called a representative of the Villages. He asked if a BEACH, not a lagoon, was coming to the Villages. The representative's response was yes, there will be a BEACH in the Eastport Area. It sounds like this may be the area the representative was referring to. Like so many, I am not a big fan of Jerry and Linda. They give out misinformation frequently.

Two Bills 11-15-2023 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 2274604)
Pay attention to how most of these TV you tubers start their dialog:
- We are not associated with The Villages
- I am not a licensed real estate broker
- I have no formal training
- I offer no more than my own personnel experience
However I feel perfectly at ease now to give out false information based upon no research and my tenure of living in TV for (pick a number between 1-5 years).

So based upon myself doing no homework on this subject whatsoever I can tell you there will be no gators due to the fact the lake will be salt water connected directly to the Atlantic Ocean via canal just above Orlando.

I also heard that cruise ships will be using that canal, and anchoring on Lake Panasoffkee to save Villagers driving to coastal ports for boarding.:thumbup:

Goldwingnut 11-15-2023 05:51 AM

I can’t believe that this has raised its head again. Not going to happen for the many reasons as I discussed in my previous post the last time this came up. The developer will not give up control of this much commercial property, the land is too valuable within the villages, this is a heat sink for a thermal plant that doesn’t exist or on the radar for being planned, senior citizens aren’t exactly the target demographic for a water park, the list goes on, my sources all got a good belly laugh the last time I discussed it with each of them.

mntlblok 11-15-2023 05:54 AM

Attitudes
 
[QUOTE=Pairadocs;2274679]
Quote:

Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2274458)
Really? Why post a reply at all? Okay I’ll assume you really don’t know.

So what do you all think about the possibility of a lagoon/beach coming to the villages? Have you heard any rumors or news? Do you like the idea? Any other thoughts on the subject?

That’s how Internet forums work. Someone posts a topic and sometimes it’s a specific question and other times it’s an open ended discussion, such as my post.

I really like that ! Open ended questions and civil written discussion, minus the emotionally laden language, name calling, overt and covert insults to others intellectual ability, education, and all the rest of it. Wonderful, I love that structure where you actually learn how others think and from what experiences they come. Hope it becomes the standard on here, and that it lasts ! So here goes:

What do I think ? So few details but from the very few described here I'd say it would be a positive addition and I would probably take advantage of it. Would it cut down on the number of trips per month I make to the Gulf, or a bit further over to Daytona or Ormand.... hummm... yes, probably. Not quite like the peace and relaxation of the ocean, but I think it would be a really nice addition to our county for everyone's enjoyment, or to the Villages as a resident's only amenity ! Now, to take this way off topic, as these discussions seem to go (just like real conversations take many turns as they continue), I would "trade" a lagoon type swimming opportunity for a big, beautiful, shiny bright line station, with FREE parking, right in the middle of the Villages at last connecting us to airports, cruise terminals, and major cities ! ! I'd vote for that !

"overt and covert insults to others intellectual ability, education"

Yeah, what's the point of that? There are some "amazingly" helpful folks on this forum - some of them apparently "tinkerers". Hope I've learned from those sorts. They sure seem to help make the world a better place. . .

*Did* get me pondering in this direction, though. . . :-) Q&A: Others vs other's vs others' | Australian Writers' Centre

jim@jedward.com 11-15-2023 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2274437)
About??

Assume you want to know "So what do you all think?" about something specific, not jus random thoughts.

:024:

Geez Captain CorrectAll. Your wife must be a saint.

Rwirish 11-15-2023 06:10 AM

Jerry and Linda know nothing more then anyone else.

La lamy 11-15-2023 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2274484)
Yes it was wide open. See, you just managed to come up with lots to talk about without requiring I make a specific question. Thanks. Good grief this forum is full of negative posts. I’m done. Sorry for starting a thread. Darling.

Please don't leave because of this. He's on my "IGNORE" list and I recommend you do the same. There's lots of great opinions and advice on this site. Just put the black clouds on your IGNORE list.

GizmoWhiskers 11-15-2023 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2274649)
I guess one could call a sand bunker a beach area….

Lol the water levels in the ponds N of 44 are down so far there are soon going to be plenty of "lagoon" beaches in the N parts of T V. Grab a towel, sand castle bucket and beach chair and make it a day right in your own areas without needing to head S of 44.

I saw a post a while back of people who paid premiums on "waterfront" lots complaining about the weeds and unkept grass growth in the water depleted ponds. Very upset waterfront lol owners.

Curious but how are the ponds doing from say St Catherine and Fenney areas towards 44?

I ask because I get that surface water and water management in general enables T V to build and fill ponds but I find it interesting, having just taken a jolly-ride through the new "center of T V", that the new sales areas by Eastport have full water levels in them, no beaches lol and other areas of T V are down what looks like about 5 - 6 ft.

I believe I have heard that T V moves water around. Just wondering if they need to move water back toward houses that they already sold or does the rain mysteriously fill sale areas first, wink wink?

HoosierPa 11-15-2023 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuvNH (Post 2274459)
Personally, I cannot imagine anything worse than a Beach Lagoon set up in TV. There will be so many people trying to use that facility it will turn into a major complaint ............. and that is just what we need in TV, something else to complain about!

There will be a hefty fee which will deter folks

GizmoWhiskers 11-15-2023 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rwirish (Post 2274711)
Jerry and Linda know nothing more then anyone else.

Is Jeryy and Linda the "Village Newcomers?"

Yeah, no interest in them.

Youtubers lol making $$ prob getting their bond paid off w ad revenues.

Lol they lost my interest with a dorkey pun comment back in 2019-ish... "The wind never blows in T V." Click, next...

Jazzman 11-15-2023 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2274484)
Yes it was wide open. See, you just managed to come up with lots to talk about without requiring I make a specific question. Thanks. Good grief this forum is full of negative posts. I’m done. Sorry for starting a thread. Darling.

Senseless as you now know in attempting to get into a discussion here. Have visited this site for a few years now. Nothing new and same core group of posters and responders.

sowtime444 11-15-2023 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2274432)
So watched Jerry and Linda yesterday and they had a question on a beach coming to the Villages. The question mentioned one of those Lagoon type development companies. I could swear I heard a similar rumor a few years ago.

Anyhow Jerry and Linda's answer was that they called and indeed a beach is coming to the Eastport area. I could only imagine any "beach" would be in a lagoon type pool. I would doubt a beach on the new dragon boat lake because of gators.

So what do you all think?

There are already some lagoons in Florida that use the Crystal Lagoon technology. Called Metro Lagoons. See Who We Are | MetroLagoons There are two from this company near Wesley Chapel (where a Costco is, so someone could go check out the lagoon, do some shopping, and report back to us!)

Metro Lagoons are open to the public but sometimes have "residents only" events for people that bought at the properties. See Epperson | Luxury Resort-Style Living in Wesley Chapel for an example of their communities (these are not retirement communities).

I don't think The Villages one will be a Metro Lagoon but will be using the same underlying technology, the Crystal Lagoon.

Heytubes 11-15-2023 08:33 AM

Who and what is Jerry and Linda?

kbogli 11-15-2023 08:33 AM

Our son lives in Wesley Chappel and near their home is Epperson Pond, it is a man made beach water area. Kayaking, standup paddle boarding, swimming and slide play area for kids, it seems very popular and well run. It is not free to residents but a fee. I think something like this would be very popular in this area. I know my grandkids would love to go when they come to visit!


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