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klobben 11-17-2023 12:32 PM

Input Shaft Replacement - 2011 Yamaha Gas
 
Just had annual maintenance performed by The Villages Golf Carts. They informed us our cart needs a new input shaft. They can't replace it as they only use Yamaha parts and Yamaha no longer manufactures input shafts for a 2011 cart. Anyone have any ideas on a reputable company that would be able to replace the input shaft for us? And any idea on what that might cost? Thanks for your help.

villagetinker 11-17-2023 12:38 PM

There are many golf cart parts websites and I would start there first, also, there are several golf cart services that do the work at your house, I have used Todd Casey, and Willies and would recommend both.

Topspinmo 11-17-2023 12:38 PM

Is this shaft where secondary clutch goes over? Or is it the engine shaft?

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...b406009fd5-jpg

klobben 11-17-2023 01:33 PM

I believe its the one where the secondary clutch goes because the mechanic said that the clutch was loose and wobbly.

Topspinmo 11-17-2023 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by klobben (Post 2275496)
I believe its the one where the secondary clutch goes because the mechanic said that the clutch was loose and wobbly.


Second on here that’s reported that problem? Maybe the other guy will chime in?

MrChip72 11-17-2023 06:22 PM

eBay almost always has stuff like that. Used or "remanufactured".

Topspinmo 11-17-2023 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by klobben (Post 2275496)
I believe it’s the one where the secondary clutch goes because the mechanic said that the clutch was loose and wobbly.



If you look at picture I posted of the transaxle output shaft did they tell you want was wrong with it? When I replaced my secondary clutch the shaft was pretty straight forward. The clutch had washer bushing and Teflon bushing? Lots of parts to go bad? I have the same shaft as you? I didn’t see any external wear? Was it internal in your case?

huge-pigeons 11-18-2023 06:45 AM

I had a clutch noise and took it in to the villages golf carts. Cart is a little over 2 years old with almost 10,000 miles on it, and it is the Yamaha quiet drive 2. They replaced the secondary clutch assembly and the input shaft which would have cost me over $700 with all the different pieces needed plus labor, but they filed it under warranty. The input shaft was $333 and the secondary clutch was $199.

KennyP 11-18-2023 08:33 AM

Yes the part has been officially discontinued. So whatever is out there is out there. The aftermarket has not come out with a replacement.
It is a preventable failure, it just needs to be looked at at every service interval.
To the OP, get a second opinion since you said who looked at it. It may not be as big an issue as they are stating and may be fixable.

NoMoSno 11-18-2023 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by KennyP (Post 2275661)
Yes the part has been officially discontinued. So whatever is out there is out there. The aftermarket has not come out with a replacement.
It is a preventable failure, it just needs to be looked at at every service interval.
To the OP, get a second opinion since you said who looked at it. It may not be as big an issue as they are stating and may be fixable.

Besides looking at it, what do you do to prevent problems?
Does regular clutch greasing prevent the issue?

blueash 11-18-2023 12:45 PM

Is there such a thing as a golf cart junk yard? Where do dead golf carts end up?

KennyP 11-18-2023 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by NoMoSno (Post 2275664)
Besides looking at it, what do you do to prevent problems?
Does regular clutch greasing prevent the issue?

Its not a greasing issue or a loose bolt issue like many believe but any good tech who has been in the business since 2007 will now what to check. The issue still happens to this day so it is still a critical check when serviced.

NoMoSno 11-18-2023 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by KennyP (Post 2275742)
Its not a greasing issue or a loose bolt issue like many believe but any good tech who has been in the business since 2007 will now what to check. The issue still happens to this day so it is still a critical check when serviced.

So there is nothing you can do to prevent it?
You must have someone look at it, only to tell you the part is no longer available.
What is the fix the techs are doing?

WickedMike 11-18-2023 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by klobben (Post 2275466)
Just had annual maintenance performed by The Villages Golf Carts. They informed us our cart needs a new input shaft. They can't replace it as they only use Yamaha parts and Yamaha no longer manufactures input shafts for a 2011 cart. Anyone have any ideas on a reputable company that would be able to replace the input shaft for us? And any idea on what that might cost? Thanks for your help.

I fought for over a year trying to get The Villages Golf Carts to sell me over the counter a part that I needed. They only wanted to charge me a set hourly rate to install part, it was a plug in part that takes about a minute, charging $85. I checked on eBay and Amazon and searched the internet for the part I need with no success.
Finally after over a year I found the part I needed at Country Village carts in Webster. They are very accommodating and professional and I will suggest them to everyone from now on.
They will pick up cart and repair it, if needed.

klobben 11-18-2023 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2275608)
If you look at picture I posted of the transaxle output shaft did they tell you want was wrong with it? When I replaced my secondary clutch the shaft was pretty straight forward. The clutch had washer bushing and Teflon bushing? Lots of parts to go bad? I have the same shaft as you? I didn’t see any external wear? Was it internal in your case?

Sorry but you're talking way above my pay grade on this!

klobben 11-18-2023 06:48 PM

I found this (see photo) on Amazon... but this can't be all we need? There must be more parts involved?
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klobben 11-18-2023 06:51 PM

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i found this (see photo) on amazon... But this can't be all we need? There must be more parts involved?
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KennyP 11-18-2023 07:13 PM

[QUOTE=NoMoSno;2275748]So there is nothing you can do to prevent it?
You must have someone look at it, only to tell you the part is no longer available.
What is the fix the techs are doing?[/QUOTE


There is a fix I sorry but i dont believe in trying to teach golf car repair over the internet. I deal with everyone looking at you tube and amazon parts on a regular basis already. Ill also state, not every person that says they know how to fix carts knows what to do.

KennyP 11-18-2023 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by klobben (Post 2275765)


Thats not the correct part for the application

NoMoSno 11-18-2023 07:36 PM

[QUOTE=KennyP;2275768]
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Originally Posted by NoMoSno (Post 2275748)
So there is nothing you can do to prevent it?
You must have someone look at it, only to tell you the part is no longer available.
What is the fix the techs are doing?[/QUOTE


There is a fix I sorry but i dont believe in trying to teach golf car repair over the internet. I deal with everyone looking at you tube and amazon parts on a regular basis already. Ill also state, not every person that says they know how to fix carts knows what to do.

What do you charge to do the "fix"?

villagetinker 11-18-2023 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by klobben (Post 2275765)

Without having the exact golf cart info, I was able to find 2011 service manuals (ebay and other sites) for around $20. I would suggest getting one of these, as they appeared to have the exact part number, and installation instructions, etc. With this you should be able to find the part (new old stock or used) on ebay, or some of the golf cart parts sites. Then one of the mobile golf cart repair services can install if you cannot do this.
The manual also appears to have the required maintenance so you will know exactly what is needed to avoid a future failure.

KennyP 11-18-2023 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2275774)
Without having the exact golf cart info, I was able to find 2011 service manuals (ebay and other sites) for around $20. I would suggest getting one of these, as they appeared to have the exact part number, and installation instructions, etc. With this you should be able to find the part (new old stock or used) on ebay, or some of the golf cart parts sites. Then one of the mobile golf cart repair services can install if you cannot do this.
The manual also appears to have the required maintenance so you will know exactly what is needed to avoid a future failure.

The manuals dont address the issue of why it fails. All golf cars have issues, its the good techs that recongnize these issue and know how to address them when confronted with them.

NoMoSno 11-18-2023 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KennyP (Post 2275776)
The manuals dont address the issue of why it fails. All golf cars have issues, its the good techs that recongnize these issue and know how to address them when confronted with them.

So why does it fail?

Dantes 11-19-2023 10:57 AM

They are available couple hundred dollars

mbene 11-19-2023 02:07 PM

Is this problem with the discontinued axle on gas cart only or electric also? Does anyone know what model years are affected? Looking to get a cart and would like to know which ones to avoid.

KennyP 11-19-2023 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mbene (Post 2275903)
Is this problem with the discontinued axle on gas cart only or electric also? Does anyone know what model years are affected? Looking to get a cart and would like to know which ones to avoid.


2007 to 2014- Team Differential.

If properly looked at, its not an issue. You are also concerned about another avoidable is which is the rear hubs, this too is a simple fix if the tech knows what to look for. Its a great differential, but the ones that are out there need to have the right eyes look at them.

Babber 11-19-2023 05:16 PM

Affected Yamaha Years of the discontinues shaft
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mbene (Post 2275903)
Is this problem with the discontinued axle on gas cart only or electric also? Does anyone know what model years are affected? Looking to get a cart and would like to know which ones to avoid.

I just had mine repaired. I probably lucked out a received one of the last shafts available. I was told that this shaft is for models 2007 thru 2014. I was also told that this is easily preventable when doing the annual PM if the mechanic would check it out. It takes all of two minutes to checked.

I did check with Titan, Willies, Todd Casey and The Villages trying to get the part. Luckily I received the last one that the Cart Fixer (which I am very impressed with) had the part.

NoMoSno 11-19-2023 05:25 PM

A quick Google search shows the part is widely still available.

KennyP 11-19-2023 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NoMoSno (Post 2275948)
A quick Google search shows the part is widely still available.

Try to order them.

Ill take 50

NoMoSno 11-19-2023 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KennyP (Post 2275974)
Try to order them.

Ill take 50

What MPN# do you want?

rhood 11-19-2023 08:19 PM

Properly looked at. What exactly does that mean.
Does that mean that properly looking at it will prevent failure?
I’d like to know what is the proper preventive maintenance that will prevent failure?

Topspinmo 11-19-2023 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by rhood (Post 2275976)
Properly looked at. What exactly does that mean.
Does that mean that properly looking at it will prevent failure?
I’d like to know what is the proper preventive maintenance that will prevent failure?

It’s BIG secret, techs don’t want you to know.:popcorn: you can guess why :oops:

KennyP 11-20-2023 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by nomosno (Post 2275975)
what mpn# do you want?


jw1-g6320-00-00

NoMoSno 11-20-2023 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by KennyP (Post 2276022)
jw1-g6320-00-00

In stock ready for your order:

Just a moment...

Yamaha Input Shaft Assy Jw1-G6320-00-00
– PowerSportsXpres

RICH1 11-20-2023 08:11 AM

Search AMAZON for your parts, then have a mechanic install… it’s an easy job and
Aftermarket parts are available… parts are around 250.00 … also double check that shaft, it’s rarely an issue, the bronze bearing is designed to wear , not the hard steel shaft….it’s one of those jobs that Emory cloth will clean it up… ( the customer will never know)

klobben 12-13-2023 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klobben (Post 2275466)
Just had annual maintenance performed by The Villages Golf Carts. They informed us our cart needs a new input shaft. They can't replace it as they only use Yamaha parts and Yamaha no longer manufactures input shafts for a 2011 cart. Anyone have any ideas on a reputable company that would be able to replace the input shaft for us? And any idea on what that might cost? Thanks for your help.

Just a quick note to bring closure to this thread... Scott at Titan Golf Cart (352-348-7381) was able to repair the input shaft for us at a very reasonable charge. We'll be using him for all of our golf cart repairs and maintenance moving forward!

Topspinmo 12-13-2023 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klobben (Post 2282198)
Just a quick note to bring closure to this thread... Scott at Titan Golf Cart (352-348-7381) was able to repair the input shaft for us at a very reasonable charge. We'll be using him for all of our golf cart repairs and maintenance moving forward!

So what was the repair?


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