California and Electric vehicle truck deliveries
 

Electric Mandates Have California Truckers Charging Overtime - WSJ

Electric Mandates Have California Truckers Charging Overtime - WSJ

Not thinking that this scenario was the intended outcome, but then again, CA govt was a bulb that has never lit up to be seen.

Not sure which link will work, or if either link will work for everyone, posted with no guarantee of visibility. This was a link which I clicked on and was visible to me and i read, and I was not logged into the WSJ, so apologies if it doesn't work for you. . has to be a disclaimer as someone turned me in for a link which was behind a paywall for them, but not for me and I don't know why i could see it and they couldn't, even when not being logged into the site. I will copy and paste the article if requested if the link doesn't work

Not sure why anyone would by an EV?

"........and their off!" :crap2:

California is in great shape. The budget deficit will only be $68 Billion.:):)

Because they have better tech and are more fun to drive than any corvette!

Philadelphia Owns 261 EVs but Only 107 Chargers… This leaves about 150 city EVs with no dedicated place to recharge, and many of them are competing with other city EVs or consumers for places to connect. The local NBC news affiliate found that many of the city chargers are located in fleet shops, police districts, and prisons, where they are not accessible to other city EVs. To make it worse, the Licenses and Inspections (LI) Department reported that none of the city’s EV charging stations obtained the required electric permits before they were installed. The LI Department has ticketed at least 46 of the 57 city charging sites. The LI Department has 115 EVs, the most of any department, but none of the city’s charging stations are at the department’s office buildings or parking lots.

The deputy director of energy services, who oversees Philadelphia’s EVs and charging stations, thinks there was some confusion about the need for permits. It’s funny until you consider that the city is writing violation tickets, which eventually will be paid by the offending departments with taxpayer funds.

And Climbing
 

And climbing, that’s why they are trying to impose an exit tax on all its residents that are moving or have moved out of the state.

interesting read. Thanks

For 100 miles. :)

Neither linked worked for me, but this one is good if you want to
read the whole article

The problem isn't EVs, it's mandates and the unintended consequences that result. EVs are great if you have your own garage to charge in overnight, and don't drive more than 150 miles in an average day. Whoever thought this was a good idea for semi-trailers wasn't thinking it thru. "Facts don't care about your feelings" applies.

IMO problem is all these permits that’s required on any upgraded or replacement.

Try 250-325 +. Get facts before you discuss something you know nothing about. It’s embarrassing.

Not in zero temperatures or driving like corvette drivers do.:pepper2:

Yep. Again, it's not EVs, it's mandates and unintended consequences.

Those left coast idiots have no common sense. When is the big one going to dump them all in the Pacific Ocean?

Exit tax… good luck with that once exited. :oops:

Just another example that the world doesn't scale linearly. . .
And sometimes the design doesn't scale at all. .

Finally! An automobile fire that actually involved a lithium battery!

This fire was a Tesla car and not a electric delivery truck. But yes, electric vehicles can catch on fire and the fires are hard to extinguish. Fortunately, there are far fewer EV fires than there are ICE (gas/diesel) fires.

(Interestingly, the rate of hybrid fires is quite high. I still haven't found an explanation for why.)

I have never had or known of a battery powered torch or watch to catch fire either!

Here's another one, a Tesla, parked. It is from last year, but I remembered it & the discussion it sparked, so I looked for the link. Apparently it is a problem for fire departments. Had this one combusted in an apartment parking garage rather than an outdoor parking lot, the results could have been disastrous.

Fully Involved Tesla Car Fire Takes 42 Minutes to Extinguish - Stamford Fire Department.

Yeah, they happen, but far less frequently than ICE vehicles. If an ICE vehicle combusts in an apartment parking garage rather than an outdoor parking lot, the results could be disastrous.

It would be interesting to know the cause of the fire. Yes, the batteries made the fire worse, but did they cause the fire or were they ignited by the fire?

Another thing to wonder about: Was the battery fire extinguished or did the batteries simply burn out? Would the results have been the same if the water was used only to contain the fire rather than extinguish it? Or, would that have risked explosion rather than a 42 minute burn? I don't know the answer and haven't found any discussion, I'm just curious.

Another fire. Not sure the intended use of the Lithium batteries.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ca...cb85d21&ei=127

IMO less cause there are less and EV are fairly new. IMO that number will go up as they age, just like ICE vehicles.

Caulifornia - tax WILL follow you
 

Issue with a county tax in CA; took five years to get it off my credit report even though paid within a month. Dinged big time.

Corp tax in CA. I paid two years after leaving the state, $750 minimum per year to the fascists.

I wouldn’t have paid it, at my age I don’t care about credit report cause I haven’t had loan for 20 years.

Always wondered why people worried about credit rating after retirement.
I haven't had a decent credit rating for donkeys years.
Couldn't care less.:shrug:

Credit rating and credit reports are used for more than just mortgages these days. If this has worked for you, great. It might not work for everyone.

Electricity
 

I get the whole don’t pollute, I really do. I also get how cool it would be to run everything on electricity. California is all smoke and mirrors though. They are by far the largest importer of electricity in the US (PA is the largest exporter). That electricity is produced in large part with natural gas, coal and some renewables. The state also has problems staying out of blackouts.

While leaders spew their lies and dreams that are nowhere close to the truth, the residents in that state suffer. I have to laugh at the latest “No gas stove” initiative that hampers homeowners, but allows restaurants to cook as they wish. IMHO, the state is ripe for a turnover in governance.

I wouldn't hold my breath. If Chicago and NYC are any indication, people continue to do the same things over and over while expecting different (better) results. The problems get worse, but the people never wise up or change. I'm not sure if it is bc they are so ignorant that they don't see the connection between their actions and the outcome or bc they are so ignorant that they believe the lies and promises each time around and never learn their lesson.

yeah, had this discussion before, I don't care about my credit rating in retirement either. That doesn't mean that don't pay my bills, I pay my bills on time or ahead of time, I let the credit agency do their ratings, while I do my financially responsible activities. Then i don't worry about what i can't control.

In the US there is frequently a huge difference in premium payments for insurance, for cars or houses, based on credit rating. Maybe even if the insurance company will cover someone. A scam, sure. But it exists.

It’s not a scam, property and casualty insurance companies are in the business of profitably underwriting, pricing, and diversifying risk. Statistically significant data has proven that customers with lower credit scores are more likely to file tenuous claims and are therefore riskier to insure. Hence the higher premiums based on inferior credit scores. Without this credit based pricing adjustment, everyone would be charged higher premiums, effectively requiring those with better credit to subsidize others.

Exactly!

"Get a horse!" is what they used to say in the early days of ICE powered vehicles which tended to get stuck in mud or otherwise break down.

This is the reality

Challenges During Electric Vehicle Fires in Open & Closed Parking Garages | Firehouse

Yes, and…?

To get utilities, internet, phone service most want credit check. I had to unlock my frozen credit for day is some cases.

Not that safe either, they can kick. My great, great, great grandfather got kicked in head and died in his early 60’s in late 1800’s

Maybe batteries are so small they can’t generate enough heat to catch fire?