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jebartle 12-30-2023 03:32 PM

Root of ALL EVIL.....Money....pga players, what's next?
 
Football?, baseball?, apple pie?, congress I'm sure, I just hate it! But I'm sure when offered $556,000,000 (like jon rahm), most of us would be history also, have we no moral compass any more? Where does this end, when Saudis run out of money?

fdpaq0580 12-30-2023 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 2286694)
Football?, baseball?, apple pie?, congress I'm sure, I just hate it! But I'm sure when offered $556,000,000 (like jon rahm), most of us would be history also, have we no moral compass any more? Where does this end, when Saudis run out of money?

I don't understand. What does a moral compass have to to do with it? He plays golf for a living. It is a job. It is his J O B! He's not throwing old ladies out of their homes, or tying damsels to railroad tracks or other dastardly things. He opted to get a better paying position in another company. Like an American League player moving to the National League.

tophcfa 12-30-2023 05:30 PM

For over a half a billion dollars, my morals are for sale.

fdpaq0580 12-30-2023 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2286718)
For over a half a billion dollars, my morals are for sale.

My allegiance to my country and my wife are the only things not for sale!

Note,the two things listed in alphabetical order.

ThirdOfFive 12-30-2023 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 2286694)
Football?, baseball?, apple pie?, congress I'm sure, I just hate it! But I'm sure when offered $556,000,000 (like jon rahm), most of us would be history also, have we no moral compass any more? Where does this end, when Saudis run out of money?

So?

fdpaq0580 12-30-2023 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2286721)
So?

That's tellin' him.

OrangeBlossomBaby 12-30-2023 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 2286694)
Football?, baseball?, apple pie?, congress I'm sure, I just hate it! But I'm sure when offered $556,000,000 (like jon rahm), most of us would be history also, have we no moral compass any more? Where does this end, when Saudis run out of money?

That ship sailed in 1979 when Nolan Ryan became the first athlete to earn $1M in a single season.

Topspinmo 12-30-2023 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 2286694)
Football?, baseball?, apple pie?, congress I'm sure, I just hate it! But I'm sure when offered $556,000,000 (like jon rahm), most of us would be history also, have we no moral compass any more? Where does this end, when Saudis run out of money?


No matter what profession it’s ALL about money and ALWAYS will be until money is worthless. Then, that’s when real animals show their face.

Two Bills 12-31-2023 04:55 AM

...... have we no moral compass any more?

So in your world, anyone who takes a better paying job with less work, and more benefits, lacks moral compass.
I never realized all my working years I lacked moral compass!

Dusty_Star 12-31-2023 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 2286694)
Football?, baseball?, apple pie?, congress I'm sure, I just hate it! But I'm sure when offered $556,000,000 (like jon rahm), most of us would be history also, have we no moral compass any more? Where does this end, when Saudis run out of money?

I saw an interesting interview with Lee Trevino, & (spoiler alert) he said the PGA can't compete. I'll look to see if I can find it again.

Dusty_Star 12-31-2023 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Dusty_Star (Post 2286763)
I saw an interesting interview with Lee Trevino, & (spoiler alert) he said the PGA can't compete. I'll look to see if I can find it again.

Here it is. “I don’t know where it’s going, but I will say this: that if it is true that they have $600 billion in that kitty, I don’t know how we’re going to compete,” Trevino said. “When you look at it, they’re starting to get better and better players. If they get points — they’re negotiating now, if I’m not mistaken, to get points — if that happens, if they go to four rounds at LIV and take that tour to 60, and still pay these players, I can’t tell you how many players we’re gonna lose. And good ones.

“They can absolutely drown you,” Trevino continued. “What can we do? We’re nonprofit. And when we run out of money, there’s no way we can fight it. And you know what I’m afraid of? If they get a network, then they might not need the tour.”

Lee Trevino's take on the PGA Tour's uphill battle with LIV Golf

Marathon Man 12-31-2023 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2286705)
I don't understand. What does a moral compass have to to do with it? He plays golf for a living. It is a job. It is his J O B! He's not throwing old ladies out of their homes, or tying damsels to railroad tracks or other dastardly things. He opted to get a better paying position in another company. Like an American League player moving to the National League.

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2286760)
...... have we no moral compass any more?

So in your world, anyone who takes a better paying job with less work, and more benefits, lacks moral compass.
I never realized all my working years I lacked moral compass!

Well said.

ThirdOfFive 12-31-2023 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2286760)
...... have we no moral compass any more?

So in your world, anyone who takes a better paying job with less work, and more benefits, lacks moral compass.
I never realized all my working years I lacked moral compass!

Story from long ago....this is an adult board, right?

A gentleman approached a lady and asked "would you sleep with me for ten million dollars?"

"Of course", the lady replied. "I'd be a fool not to".

The gentleman then asked "would you sleep with me for TEN dollars?

"What do you think I am", the woman snapped at him. "A w___e?"

"We've already established that", the gentleman replied. "Now we're just trying to agree on price".

Davonu 12-31-2023 09:37 AM

“Root of ALL EVIL.....Money”

A pretty big part of most good in our society too.

jebartle 12-31-2023 10:08 AM

Saudi's, their intent is not about making America great (hmmmm!), no, they are making Saudi's better, a country at the heart of an attack on America, which I will NEVER forgive because their future intent has not changed, nor will mine.
I would NEVER challenge intents of others BUT, with my broad brush, I can safely say, Saudi leadership is BAD TO THE BONE!

charlieo1126@gmail.com 12-31-2023 10:26 AM

Saudi Arabia does some bad and some good . They have been a help in getting funding for covert operations by western governments including close to home backing of the Contras in Nicaragua ,they have also been fighting a war against the Houthis rebels backed by Iran for many years with support from the USA ,the UK and France . The war is ugly but so are most civil wars . The Saudi family is a true believer in the slogan the enemy of my enemy is my friend .

Bobendres 01-01-2024 05:15 AM

I don’t think it’s about morality. Just players maximizing net worth. I will say though I am shocked at the amount of money. These are just great golfers. They aren’t solving world hunger.

Rainger99 01-01-2024 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2286798)
Story from long ago....this is an adult board, right?

A gentleman approached a lady and asked "would you sleep with me for ten million dollars?"

"Of course", the lady replied. "I'd be a fool not to".

The gentleman then asked "would you sleep with me for TEN dollars?

"What do you think I am", the woman snapped at him. "A w___e?"

"We've already established that", the gentleman replied. "Now we're just trying to agree on price".

Everything (and more) you want to know about the story.

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2012/03/07/haggling/

golfing eagles 01-01-2024 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 2286812)
Saudi Arabia does some bad and some good . They have been a help in getting funding for covert operations by western governments including close to home backing of the Contras in Nicaragua ,they have also been fighting a war against the Houthis rebels backed by Iran for many years with support from the USA ,the UK and France . The war is ugly but so are most civil wars . The Saudi family is a true believer in the slogan the enemy of my enemy is my friend .

A quote that some attribute to a prince who was later betrayed and decapitated by his followers.:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

golfing eagles 01-01-2024 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobendres (Post 2286951)
I don’t think it’s about morality. Just players maximizing net worth. I will say though I am shocked at the amount of money. These are just great golfers. They aren’t solving world hunger.

True, but how much profit is there in solving world hunger?????

Southwest737 01-01-2024 07:35 AM

Moving money from Saudi coffers into western hands is a good thing. Billions that can’t be used to fund terrorists.

Maker 01-01-2024 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 2286694)
...Where does this end, when Saudis run out of money?

They run out of money when there is no market for their oil and gas.

Goldwingnut 01-01-2024 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Davonu (Post 2286802)
“Root of ALL EVIL.....Money”

A pretty big part of most good in our society too.

The quote from 1 Timothy 6:10: For the love of money is the root of all of evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

Money in and of itself is not evil, it is simply a means of the transference of value, however greed and avarice of money generally lead to a moral decay resulting in what is generally referred to as evil.

We all worked hard during our lifetimes to better our position and improve the life we had and gave to our families. In modern society this goal is generally achieved by most through the acquisition of wealth and an increased value of our own earnings power. This is neither good nor evil, that definition is solely within the individual's own control in how they achieve it and what they do with it. Philanthropy is rarely considered evil though many consider those in a position to be the most philanthropic as somehow being evil people because they were able to amass a considerable financial position in life. Rarely is that the case.

I would submit that those who quickly go about throwing the sin of "greed" on others are themselves guilty of just as deadly a sin, envy.

Dlctotv 01-01-2024 08:25 AM

The root of all evil is HATE. Hating others just bc they’re different from YOU.

MorTech 01-01-2024 08:40 AM

I don't think "Moral Compass" means what you think it means.

fdpaq0580 01-01-2024 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Dlctotv (Post 2287014)
The root of all evil is HATE. Hating others just bc they’re different from YOU.

Hate is bad, but it is not the root, it is the result of many other things. Envy, fear, lack of understanding and other things. Hate is for small minds, imHo.

It's Hot There 01-01-2024 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 2286810)
they are making Saudi's better, a country at the heart of an attack on America,

Proof???

G.R.I.T.S. 01-01-2024 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 2286694)
Football?, baseball?, apple pie?, congress I'm sure, I just hate it! But I'm sure when offered $556,000,000 (like jon rahm), most of us would be history also, have we no moral compass any more? Where does this end, when Saudis run out of money?

You failed to mention NIL in college sports. And don’t get me started on the transfer portal!🤬

GATORBILL66 01-01-2024 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 2286694)
Football?, baseball?, apple pie?, congress I'm sure, I just hate it! But I'm sure when offered $556,000,000 (like jon rahm), most of us would be history also, have we no moral compass any more? Where does this end, when Saudis run out of money?

Now college athletes are getting paid. They can leave after one year for a school who offers them ore money. No loyalty!

Steve 01-01-2024 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Davonu (Post 2286802)
“Root of ALL EVIL.....Money”

A pretty big part of most good in our society too.

The actual quote if from the Bible:

1 Timothy 6:10
King James Version
10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

It's not the money itself that's evil. What you can do with it can be a very good thing.

wamley 01-01-2024 09:13 AM

I'm a little torn here, because the PGA is a monopoly here in the USA and dictates ownership of everything a pro golfer does including any photos taken of him. An opportunity to work for more money causes people to change jobs all the time. There is no longer a commitment to a company, nor does Companies have commitment to many of their employees. How long would you stay with your present employer if you won the $800,000,000 lottery. No two week notice I'm sure.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 01-01-2024 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2286970)
A quote that some attribute to a prince who was later betrayed and decapitated by his followers.:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

well I don’t know about that but the doctrine has been used for 100’s of years some of the earliest were English kings ,the allies used it during ww2 with the Russians , the Chinese nationalist and communists used it a against the Japanese, during the Cold War both the east and west supported governments they didn’t like , and in the Middle East you couldn’t survive without it,even Israel and the Saudi family have had there moments working together in public and private when it suited them and I can tell you from firsthand knowledge how awful some of the governments and individuals we have worked with to get things done

oneclickplus 01-01-2024 09:58 AM

Point of accuracy
 
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Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 2286694)
Football?, baseball?, apple pie?, congress I'm sure, I just hate it! But I'm sure when offered $556,000,000 (like jon rahm), most of us would be history also, have we no moral compass any more? Where does this end, when Saudis run out of money?

Money is NOT the root of all evil. Here is the correct quote:

1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

fdpaq0580 01-01-2024 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by oneclickplus (Post 2287080)
Money is NOT the root of all evil. Here is the correct quote:

1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

Thanks for clearing that up. Love is the root of all evil, right?

SHIBUMI 01-01-2024 10:40 AM

Harvard started it!
 
Back in the early 2000's Harvard was teaching its students that, the minute they take a new job, they should start looking for their next job! Loyalty is being naive today. In a capitalist society, there is only money loyalty, its the nature of the beast. Loyalty only exists now when it is a financial benefit otherwise your seen as a fool.
People are leaving religion as well. Sad to say companies have been thinking this way for a long time too. Just like our legal system, the rich get away with it while the poor get punished.
We have no problem taking Saudi Oil or their money to protect them militarily.Reality has reared its ugly head into golf.
This is a financial window that will benefit all LIV players, God bless them.
The real problem is there is no profit motive for the Saudi's. Won't happen.
And thats a bigger problem today, power wants power more than money. Its the new toy of the filthy rich.

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Originally Posted by wamley (Post 2287048)
I'm a little torn here, because the PGA is a monopoly here in the USA and dictates ownership of everything a pro golfer does including any photos taken of him. An opportunity to work for more money causes people to change jobs all the time. There is no longer a commitment to a company, nor does Companies have commitment to many of their employees. How long would you stay with your present employer if you won the $800,000,000 lottery. No two week notice I'm sure.


Retiredsteve 01-01-2024 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 2286810)
Saudi's, their intent is not about making America great (hmmmm!), no, they are making Saudi's better, a country at the heart of an attack on America, which I will NEVER forgive because their future intent has not changed, nor will mine.
I would NEVER challenge intents of others BUT, with my broad brush, I can safely say, Saudi leadership is BAD TO THE BONE!

. Amen

Albany 01-01-2024 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2286705)
I don't understand. What does a moral compass have to to do with it? He plays golf for a living. It is a job. It is his J O B! He's not throwing old ladies out of their homes, or tying damsels to railroad tracks or other dastardly things. He opted to get a better paying position in another company. Like an American League player moving to the National League.

Calling the Saudis just any other "company" is nearly ridiculous. These are the same folks who TRAINED the terrorists who indiscriminately killed 4000 of our fellow citizens on 9/11. Shame.

It's Hot There 01-01-2024 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Albany (Post 2287123)
These are the same folks who TRAINED the terrorists who indiscriminately killed 4000 of our fellow citizens on 9/11. Shame.

Bring on the evidence you have.................

charlieo1126@gmail.com 01-01-2024 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by It's Hot There (Post 2287124)
Bring on the evidence you have.................

He read it on the internet , sooooooo it must be true

jimjamuser 01-01-2024 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 2286694)
Football?, baseball?, apple pie?, congress I'm sure, I just hate it! But I'm sure when offered $556,000,000 (like jon rahm), most of us would be history also, have we no moral compass any more? Where does this end, when Saudis run out of money?

Personally, I have felt since about 1970 that the major SPORTS in college and the pros are paid WAY TOO much money. Take ANY college coaching job and cut the salary in HALF and I believe that the quality of the sports team and the attendance would NOT suffer. Most fans would NOT even KNOW the difference between a good coaching decision and a bad one. The expert announcers would likely disagree. Put the wasted money on coaches back into the quality of the stadium and the college general fund.


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