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Redsmom 01-02-2024 09:51 AM

Hedge on neighbor’s property
 
The rear of my property backs up to a tall hedge. The hedge is all on the rear neighbor’s property. I get the impression (since they no longer speak to us!) that this neighbor expected me to weed from my side the weeds coming up in the white stone island surrounding this hedge. As all of this is on their property I don’t feel comfortable handling weeds especially since I use weed killer spray and I don’t want to spray on their property. Is there a standard protocol to handle this situation that I’m not aware of? Since the rear neighbor’s property is pie shaped, as they are on a cul-de-sac, this hedge bed manages to border on my property and my next-door neighbor’s property. My next-door neighbor does not weed her border area either.

I don’t want to be a bad neighbor, but wish that they had had an honest discussion with me and my husband once we moved in to clarify what they expected. It seems ridiculous to expect somebody to take care of your property without actually having a conversation about it. But again maybe there’s a protocol I am not aware of?

callalily 01-02-2024 09:57 AM

I'm sure your neighbor doesn't expect you to do their weeding. They are responsible for the landscaping on their property. You can call deed compliance about the weeds. 352-751-3912

villagetinker 01-02-2024 10:02 AM

No protocol that I know of, and filing a complaint will probably make things worse. Personally I would not clear out the weeds, as you might become liable for damage if something happens to the hedge. Unfortunately this is their property and their responsibility.

retiredguy123 01-02-2024 10:02 AM

I'm confused. If the stones and weeds are not on your property, I wouldn't do anything with them. If the weeds are on your property, I would have no problem spraying them with a weed killer, being careful to not spray it on their property.

Bogie Shooter 01-02-2024 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Redsmom (Post 2287375)
The rear of my property backs up to a tall hedge. The hedge is all on the rear neighbor’s property. I get the impression (since they no longer speak to us!) that this neighbor expected me to weed from my side the weeds coming up in the white stone island surrounding this hedge. As all of this is on their property I don’t feel comfortable handling weeds especially since I use weed killer spray and I don’t want to spray on their property. Is there a standard protocol to handle this situation that I’m not aware of? Since the rear neighbor’s property is pie shaped, as they are on a cul-de-sac, this hedge bed manages to border on my property and my next-door neighbor’s property. My next-door neighbor does not weed her border area either.

I don’t want to be a bad neighbor, but wish that they had had an honest discussion with me and my husband once we moved in to clarify what they expected. It seems ridiculous to expect somebody to take care of your property without actually having a conversation about it. But again maybe there’s a protocol I am not aware of?

Why was there no conversation when you moved in? What caused the lack of relation with your neighbor? Communications is a two way street.
Seems there may be more to this story……..

tophcfa 01-02-2024 10:30 AM

I would talk to the neighbor and let them know you don’t like looking at the weeds on their property that face your view. If they respond positively, end of issue. If not, explain to them that it’s their responsibility and you really don’t want to have to call community standards on them and would appreciate them taking care of the situation. At that point, if they refuse to take responsibility and rectify the situation, they are effectively saying F U to you and I would have no problem reporting them to community standards. The complaint would NOT be anonymous. Best of luck.

fdpaq0580 01-02-2024 10:47 AM

Question. Would you be willing to spray "their" weeds when you spray your own. That way, they would not have to trespass onto your yard to spray weeds. By all means, check with them first. Neighbors helping and cooperating. Nice.

vintageogauge 01-02-2024 10:55 AM

Just ask them if you can spray the weeds saving them the cost and effort. if they say no do it anyway, you're not going to hurt their shrubs with light weed killer, I've been spraying mine for years with no damage other than to the weeds.

Gpsma 01-02-2024 11:51 AM

They no longer speak to you?…hmm, wonder why

Randall55 01-02-2024 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 2287407)
They no longer speak to you?…hmm, wonder why

Do you weed and maintain your neighbors' yards at your own expense? I wouldn't. I would talk to the neighbor. Many homes were bought preowned. Maybe, they do not know their property line.

retiredguy123 01-02-2024 01:17 PM

You may want to use your survey plat and a long tape measure to identify exactly where your property line is located. Drive a few wood or metal stakes in the ground to identify the property line. I would not be doing anything on your neighbor's property. If they have weeds, leave them alone, unless they are violating a specific deed restriction. If they are, you can report it to the deed compliance office. There is no protocol.

Topspinmo 01-02-2024 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2287389)
Why was there no conversation when you moved in? What caused the lack of relation with your neighbor? Communications is a two way street.
Seems there may be more to this story……..

Some people are NOT friendly/sociable and only feel neighborly if you are doing something for them or what they want. Then, there ones who want no contact. Several in my neighborhood. Luckily to get wave out of them. :shrug:

retiredguy123 01-02-2024 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2287435)
Some people are NOT friendly/sociable and only feel neighborly if you are doing something for them or what they want. Then, there ones who want no contact. Several in my neighborhood. Luckily to get wave out of them. :shrug:

I have lived in condominium buildings where some people don't even know who lives next door, and don't want to.

Redsmom 01-02-2024 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2287389)
Why was there no conversation when you moved in? What caused the lack of relation with your neighbor? Communications is a two way street.
Seems there may be more to this story……..

We did introduce ourselves soon after we moved in and had a nice conversation with the couple. We specifically mentioned that we liked having the hedge as it gave us privacy in our backyard. We wanted to mention this to them because we understood that the people who lived there previously had complained about the hedge.

mtdjed 01-02-2024 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Redsmom (Post 2287539)
We did introduce ourselves soon after we moved in and had a nice conversation with the couple. We specifically mentioned that we liked having the hedge as it gave us privacy in our backyard. We wanted to mention this to them because we understood that the people who lived there previously had complained about the hedge.

Introduction, communication and friendship would solve this problem.

kendi 01-03-2024 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 2287407)
They no longer speak to you?…hmm, wonder why

That’s what caught my attention as well.

Albany 01-03-2024 12:02 PM

Hedge maintenance
 
I have a terrific hedge which all my neighbors get the privacy of. It is completely on my land and I take care of it. I don’t expect anyone else to do that. Yes I spray the weeds and I replace the mulch as needed. And I also keep it trimmed to about 6 feet. It’s my hedge and my responsibility. Yes neighbors behind and on both sides benefit. So what? It belongs to me.
Everyone should be talking to each other.

Arletti 01-03-2024 12:22 PM

Don’t feel bad, there are five couples on my street that are like that!

Redsmom 01-03-2024 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Albany (Post 2287700)
I have a terrific hedge which all my neighbors get the privacy of. It is completely on my land and I take care of it. I don’t expect anyone else to do that. Yes I spray the weeds and I replace the mulch as needed. And I also keep it trimmed to about 6 feet. It’s my hedge and my responsibility. Yes neighbors behind and on both sides benefit. So what? It belongs to me.
Everyone should be talking to each other.

Totally agree!

Why the sudden end to communication is unknown. I just speculate that it has to do with our not helping with the weeding. I can’t figure out what else it could be. The suggestion of delivering some cookies and requesting a discussion to clear the air is a good one. But just wanted to make sure I was not missing something obvious that I was failing to do.

Thanks all for your input.

Topspinmo 01-03-2024 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mtdjed (Post 2287555)
Introduction, communication and friendship would solve this problem.

Yep, communication that I’m not going on your property to do your lawn work.

Kelevision 01-04-2024 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redsmom (Post 2287375)
The rear of my property backs up to a tall hedge. The hedge is all on the rear neighbor’s property. I get the impression (since they no longer speak to us!) that this neighbor expected me to weed from my side the weeds coming up in the white stone island surrounding this hedge. As all of this is on their property I don’t feel comfortable handling weeds especially since I use weed killer spray and I don’t want to spray on their property. Is there a standard protocol to handle this situation that I’m not aware of? Since the rear neighbor’s property is pie shaped, as they are on a cul-de-sac, this hedge bed manages to border on my property and my next-door neighbor’s property. My next-door neighbor does not weed her border area either.

I don’t want to be a bad neighbor, but wish that they had had an honest discussion with me and my husband once we moved in to clarify what they expected. It seems ridiculous to expect somebody to take care of your property without actually having a conversation about it. But again maybe there’s a protocol I am not aware of?

Since they no longer speak to us….. is when I stopped reading this post.

JGibson 01-04-2024 07:41 AM

You could just put a note on their door explaining your concern.

To think everyone is going to get along with all their neighbors may be unrealistic unless your just the go along to get along type.

I've had a neighbor in a CYV who didn't want the person who I hired to pressure wash my side of the house which would include going into her yard.

She made a huge scene because she didn't like this individual personally.

Things were never going to be the same after that childish outburst.

Good news is she moved bad news is now it's a short term rental. lol.

Robnlaura 01-04-2024 11:15 AM

The law is simple if it encroaches your property you can clip it back to their property line. What’s it their property is not your business what’s in yours is .. that’s Florida law

TeresaE 02-03-2024 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redsmom (Post 2287375)
The rear of my property backs up to a tall hedge. The hedge is all on the rear neighbor’s property. I get the impression (since they no longer speak to us!) that this neighbor expected me to weed from my side the weeds coming up in the white stone island surrounding this hedge. As all of this is on their property I don’t feel comfortable handling weeds especially since I use weed killer spray and I don’t want to spray on their property. Is there a standard protocol to handle this situation that I’m not aware of? Since the rear neighbor’s property is pie shaped, as they are on a cul-de-sac, this hedge bed manages to border on my property and my next-door neighbor’s property. My next-door neighbor does not weed her border area either.

I don’t want to be a bad neighbor, but wish that they had had an honest discussion with me and my husband once we moved in to clarify what they expected. It seems ridiculous to expect somebody to take care of your property without actually having a conversation about it. But again maybe there’s a protocol I am not aware of?

I find knocking on the door and saying hello, I’m your new neighbor is a good place to start. Then wind your way around to the discussion about the hedge. Maybe work together on the project. Nothing like bonding over physical labor.

Normal 02-03-2024 09:22 AM

Embarrassing
 
I think they may not understand what needs to be done. The ownership is on them to keep not just the side they see but what you see also. If I was the neighbor I would be embarrassed and jump right into clearing/cleaning things up. As others have posted, it could be a good thing to communicate directly and air things out. The ARC would definitely be a last resort.

graciegirl 02-03-2024 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2287389)
Why was there no conversation when you moved in? What caused the lack of relation with your neighbor? Communications is a two way street.
Seems there may be more to this story……..

I so agree, Bogie Shooter.

JGibson 02-04-2024 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robnlaura (Post 2287953)
The law is simple if it encroaches your property you can clip it back to their property line. What’s it their property is not your business what’s in yours is .. that’s Florida law

I find it hard to believe you can start trimming neighbors hedges because they impeded your property.

Do you have some sources on this?

simplesimonsaid 02-04-2024 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by JGibson (Post 2297999)
I find it hard to believe you can start trimming neighbors hedges because they impeded your property.

Do you have some sources on this?

A near standard rule anywhere, that you can trim to boundary line most anything overgrowing your property.

retiredguy123 02-04-2024 10:27 AM

See Post No. 11. Communication is nice, but this issue doesn't require any communication. That is why there is a property line. Do whatever you want on your property and stay off of your neighbor's property.

JGibson 02-06-2024 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by simplesimonsaid (Post 2298044)
A near standard rule anywhere, that you can trim to boundary line most anything overgrowing your property.

Again show me something in “writing” that says you can cut your neighbor's shrubbery if it impedes your property.

I would think you would need to file a complaint with the district before you pulled out the hedge cutters.

Gpsma 02-06-2024 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JGibson (Post 2298528)
Again show me something in “writing” that says you can cut your neighbor's shrubbery if it impedes your property.

I would think you would need to file a complaint with the district before you pulled out the hedge cutters.

Gallo v. Heller, 512 So.2d 215, 216 (Fla. 3d DCA 1987), which explained the common law rule:

“[A] possessor of land is not liable to persons outside the land for a nuisance resulting from trees and natural vegetation growing on the land. The adjoining property owner to such a nuisance, however, is privileged to trim back, at the adjoining owner's own expense, any encroaching tree roots or branches and other vegetation which has grown onto his property.”

thelegges 02-06-2024 08:43 AM

So if hedge is growing over your property then the 3’ rule may not have been in ARC rules at the time. We had to slightly change landscape plans to accommodate 3’ beds from lot line for our ARC approval

Villagevip 02-06-2024 11:35 AM

Seems the tall hedge is super close to your property... You benefit from the very nice privacy from their hedge...Hedge owner prolly does not feel comfortable going, stepping on your side to do maintenance... Show appreciation, and contribute maintenance on your side, IMHO...

Marathon Man 02-06-2024 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JGibson (Post 2298528)
Again show me something in “writing” that says you can cut your neighbor's shrubbery if it impedes your property.

I would think you would need to file a complaint with the district before you pulled out the hedge cutters.

I find that a little strange.

JGibson 02-07-2024 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 2298592)
I find that a little strange.

What's so strange?

Before I cut my neighbor's hedges that impeded my property I want to make sure I’m on legal ground.

I’m not looking to get arrested for cutting personal property and want to go about it in the proper manner.

Marathon Man 02-07-2024 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JGibson (Post 2298770)
What's so strange?

Before I cut my neighbor's hedges that impeded my property I want to make sure I’m on legal ground.

I’m not looking to get arrested for cutting personal property and want to go about it in the proper manner.

That is exactly why I find it strange. The District does not enforce law.

retiredguy123 02-07-2024 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JGibson (Post 2298770)
What's so strange?

Before I cut my neighbor's hedges that impeded my property I want to make sure I’m on legal ground.

I’m not looking to get arrested for cutting personal property and want to go about it in the proper manner.

Here is a summary of the Florida law pertaining to this topic, from this website: FE962/FE962: Handbook of Florida Fence and Property Law: Trees and Landowner Responsibility

SUMMARY
A landowner is not liable to the adjoining property owner for an alleged nuisance caused by overhanging branches and roots from a tree on his or her property; however, the adjoining property owner is legally entitled to trim back, at the adjoining owner's own expense and only up to the property line, any encroaching tree roots or branches and other vegetation that had grown onto his or her property. If the branches or roots are dead, or a dead tree falls onto the adjoining landowner's property, then the landowner of the property where the tree was originally located may be responsible. If a live tree falls onto the adjoining landowner's property, then the adjoining landowner is responsible for any damages.

Velvet 02-07-2024 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JGibson (Post 2298528)
Again show me something in “writing” that says you can cut your neighbor's shrubbery if it impedes your property.

I would think you would need to file a complaint with the district before you pulled out the hedge cutters.

I doubt it. It’s standard in most areas that nothing can overhang your property unless it is a utility line etc. You show me in writing that it is otherwise with regards to shrubs.

retiredguy123 02-07-2024 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2298836)
I doubt it. It’s standard in most areas that nothing can overhang your property unless it is a utility line etc. You show me in writing that it is otherwise with regards to shrubs.

See Post No. 40

Velvet 02-07-2024 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2298840)
See Post No. 40

Makes sense. Thank you.


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