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Rando 01-14-2024 05:11 PM

Couch in front room of Iris
 
I was shopping a local furniture store and the salesperson said there is no way to get a couch longer than 80 inches into the front room of an Iris model. 80" is the height of the door entries and you need to bring the couch in vertically to be able to make the turn in the hallway. It seems to me if you brought it in at an angle you could exceed the 80" limit by getting it into the hall, spinning it slightly, and then angling it into the front room.

Does anyone else know if this is true and/or have you successfully moved a couch longer than 80" into the front room of an Iris?

Thanks!

HandyGrandpap 01-14-2024 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rando (Post 2291262)
I was shopping a local furniture store and the salesperson said there is no way to get a couch longer than 80 inches into the front room of an Iris model. 80" is the height of the door entries and you need to bring the couch in vertically to be able to make the turn in the hallway. It seems to me if you brought it in at an angle you could exceed the 80" limit by getting it into the hall, spinning it slightly, and then angling it into the front room.

Does anyone else know if this is true and/or have you successfully moved a couch longer than 80" into the front room of an Iris?

Thanks!

Any sliders in the back?

Rando 01-14-2024 05:37 PM

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The problem isn't getting it in the house - it's getting in through the front hallway to bedroom 2 (see attached).

frayedends 01-14-2024 05:57 PM

I have a Kingfisher, which I believe is almost the same as the Iris. It has the same angled foyer. We had a 91” sofa brought in through the front with no issues at all. I don’t recall how they brought it in but it certainly doesn’t need to be completely vertical.

If you had any issue then going through the lanai should work also (barring any birdcage issues).

Rando 01-14-2024 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2291287)
I have a Kingfisher, which I believe is almost the same as the Iris. It has the same angled foyer. We had a 91” sofa brought in through the front with no issues at all. I don’t recall how they brought it in but it certainly doesn’t need to be completely vertical.

If you had any issue then going through the lanai should work also (barring any birdcage issues).

Yes, the foyer is not the issue. The issue is the angled hallway going to the front bedroom.

frayedends 01-14-2024 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rando (Post 2291289)
Yes, the foyer is not the issue. The issue is the angled hallway going to the front bedroom.

Oops, I totally missed that you are going into the bedroom. I would think you could get it in by heading toward bedroom 2, then put it vertical in that hall, then angle down toward bedroom 3 then into the front bedroom.

https://i.imgur.com/XqyN6Srl.png

Rando 01-14-2024 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2291291)
Oops, I totally missed that you are going into the bedroom. I would think you could get it in by heading toward the bathroom then into the front bedroom.

https://i.imgur.com/XqyN6Srl.png

https://i.imgur.com/4iaoM9Wl.png

So you got the couch into Bedroom 2 with no issue?

frayedends 01-14-2024 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rando (Post 2291293)
So you got the couch into Bedroom 2 with no issue?

No, just edited my post as I missed that you want it in the bedroom. I still think it wouldn't be an issue. A few angles to mess with.

First go into foyer and go vertical. Then from the bottom bring the couch horizontal. Looks like a fairly straight shot to bedroom 3 if you can't get it back to vertical in that hall. So you go horizontal into BR 3 a bit, then angle it up and vertical in the hall. Then from the bottom bring it horizontal again to go into BR2.

I'm not home to look, but just check that it will make if from foyer into BR3 horizontal. Depends on how those doors line up and the width of the couch.

retiredguy123 01-14-2024 07:11 PM

I had the same problem with a courtyard villa, trying to get a queen size sofa bed into the guest bedroom. I had to downsize to a full size sofa bed and bring it in vertically. The problem is that you cannot go around the corner unless the sofa is vertical and fits under the door frame. It is almost impossible to determine if it will fit in advance.

villagetinker 01-14-2024 10:25 PM

We had a similar problem in a Gardenia, and had to remove the legs to get a large sofa bed in and later out of the front bedroom.

JRcorvette 01-15-2024 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Rando (Post 2291262)
I was shopping a local furniture store and the salesperson said there is no way to get a couch longer than 80 inches into the front room of an Iris model. 80" is the height of the door entries and you need to bring the couch in vertically to be able to make the turn in the hallway. It seems to me if you brought it in at an angle you could exceed the 80" limit by getting it into the hall, spinning it slightly, and then angling it into the front room.

Does anyone else know if this is true and/or have you successfully moved a couch longer than 80" into the front room of an Iris?

Thanks!

He is correct…. It is difficult to make that turn in the hall so they have to slide it in vertical.

Bugface 01-15-2024 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Rando (Post 2291262)
I was shopping a local furniture store and the salesperson said there is no way to get a couch longer than 80 inches into the front room of an Iris model. 80" is the height of the door entries and you need to bring the couch in vertically to be able to make the turn in the hallway. It seems to me if you brought it in at an angle you could exceed the 80" limit by getting it into the hall, spinning it slightly, and then angling it into the front room.

Does anyone else know if this is true and/or have you successfully moved a couch longer than 80" into the front room of an Iris?

Thanks!

We were unable to get a 92” sofa in the front room of our Iris due to the angled wall. We ended up getting a loveseat which went in fine.

jebartle 01-15-2024 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Rando (Post 2291262)
I was shopping a local furniture store and the salesperson said there is no way to get a couch longer than 80 inches into the front room of an Iris model. 80" is the height of the door entries and you need to bring the couch in vertically to be able to make the turn in the hallway. It seems to me if you brought it in at an angle you could exceed the 80" limit by getting it into the hall, spinning it slightly, and then angling it into the front room.

Does anyone else know if this is true and/or have you successfully moved a couch longer than 80" into the front room of an Iris?

Thanks!

Maybe, rethink purchase to sectional pieces????

Rando 01-15-2024 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 2291413)
Maybe, rethink purchase to sectional pieces????

Problem is I wanted a sleeper sofa for guests.

CarlR33 01-15-2024 11:11 AM

Might browse and see what IKEA has to offer as some of their couches come disassembled in pieces so moving it into a room will not be an issue only getting it out:(

retiredguy123 01-15-2024 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Rando (Post 2291489)
Problem is I wanted a sleeper sofa for guests.

I have a full size sleeper sofa in my guest bedroom. It fit through the door in the vertical position. I wanted a queen size, but there was no way to get it into the room.

Two Bills 01-15-2024 11:56 AM

Take the window out.:shrug:

Dusty_Star 01-15-2024 12:16 PM

Or consider one of those built in Wall-Beds, then use a smaller sized sofa for sitting

badkarma318 01-15-2024 09:03 PM

I think either Babette's or CITY Furniture (maybe both) have all of the floor plans used by the developer in their design system, so you might want to contact them, tell them which floor plan you have, and the exact dimensions of the couch, and they will probably be able to tell you if it will fit or not.

jmaccallum 01-16-2024 05:19 AM

Same problem with our Vera Cruz plan. We wanted a queen size sleeper sofa, for guests, in bedroom 2 which we use as den/office but can’t make the hallway turns without going vertical and therefore limited to the door height of 80 inches. Could do a full size sleeper sofa but many of our couples relatives/friends wouldn’t fit in that too good! Sheesh! 2000 sq ft home and can’t get a queen sleeper sofa into bedroom 2. Looked at Murphy beds, but they take up the wall and can only be used as beds when pulled down, and you can’t put sitting furniture in front of them. A sleeper sofa would be much nicer as you could sit on it when not used as a bed. We haven’t done anything, yet, because we haven’t figured it out. So if you find an option, please post!

frayedends 01-16-2024 05:50 AM

I'm not down there in my house to look, but I'm still perplexed that you can't go through the doors diagonally and then vertical in the hall. Is the hall that narrow you can't get it back to vertical from a diagonal position?

I'm sure I've put much bigger things through much smaller spaces.

bowlingal 01-16-2024 06:23 AM

forget the sofa idea....get a trundle bed instead. takes up a lot less room in the guest room and it opens to a king size bed, so you can sleep more people

retiredguy123 01-16-2024 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2291684)
I'm not down there in my house to look, but I'm still perplexed that you can't go through the doors diagonally and then vertical in the hall. Is the hall that narrow you can't get it back to vertical from a diagonal position?

I'm sure I've put much bigger things through much smaller spaces.

If the sofa is longer than 80 inches, tilting it diagonally doesn't reduce the height enough to get it through the 80 inch high door. The door is only 30 inches wide. If the sofa won't fit through the door vertically, it probably won't fit diagonally either.

bragones 01-16-2024 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Rando (Post 2291489)
Problem is I wanted a sleeper sofa for guests.

I had the same problem trying to get a sleep sofa in the front bedroom of a Jasmine. We tried every angle and position possible with no luck. Thanks to a very handy friend, we got it in but it was very painful. We disassembled the entire couch. Even with only the frame, the sofa would not go in. We finally removed stapled fabric so that we could get some flexibility in the frame and then rebuilt the sofa. When that home was sold, the sleep sofa remained in the front bedroom! Look into "bed in a chest".

wayneman 01-16-2024 08:02 AM

We used a futon, disassemble, then assemble in room.
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Originally Posted by Rando (Post 2291262)
I was shopping a local furniture store and the salesperson said there is no way to get a couch longer than 80 inches into the front room of an Iris model. 80" is the height of the door entries and you need to bring the couch in vertically to be able to make the turn in the hallway. It seems to me if you brought it in at an angle you could exceed the 80" limit by getting it into the hall, spinning it slightly, and then angling it into the front room.

Does anyone else know if this is true and/or have you successfully moved a couch longer than 80" into the front room of an Iris?

Thanks!


quatro400@aol.com 01-16-2024 08:40 AM

We had the same problem. We wanted a sleeper sofa for the 2nd bedroom but only had 80in to work with. The slider door angle towards the bedrooms was the problem. We went to City furniture and purchased the Asheville queen sleeper sofa in 79. It’s made specifically for the villages homes.
Not many colors to choose from but it was delivered last week and my husband loves it since we made that room a den/guest bedroom.

Laurel Maryland 01-16-2024 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Rando (Post 2291262)
I was shopping a local furniture store and the salesperson said there is no way to get a couch longer than 80 inches into the front room of an Iris model. 80" is the height of the door entries and you need to bring the couch in vertically to be able to make the turn in the hallway. It seems to me if you brought it in at an angle you could exceed the 80" limit by getting it into the hall, spinning it slightly, and then angling it into the front room.

Does anyone else know if this is true and/or have you successfully moved a couch longer than 80" into the front room of an Iris?

Thanks!

The La-Z-Boy furniture company makes some pieces of furniture that can be delivered to you partially assembled, with full assembly completed at your site after delivery. May be worth looking into in your situation.

frayedends 01-16-2024 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2291694)
If the sofa is longer than 80 inches, tilting it diagonally doesn't reduce the height enough to get it through the 80 inch high door. The door is only 30 inches wide. If the sofa won't fit through the door vertically, it probably won't fit diagonally either.

I guess that depends on the length of the sofa. But you could certainly angle it enough to shave a few inches of height.

If attempting anything first remove any legs and remove all doors. It’s more work to not remove the. Believe me.

G.R.I.T.S. 01-16-2024 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Rando (Post 2291262)
I was shopping a local furniture store and the salesperson said there is no way to get a couch longer than 80 inches into the front room of an Iris model. 80" is the height of the door entries and you need to bring the couch in vertically to be able to make the turn in the hallway. It seems to me if you brought it in at an angle you could exceed the 80" limit by getting it into the hall, spinning it slightly, and then angling it into the front room.

Does anyone else know if this is true and/or have you successfully moved a couch longer than 80" into the front room of an Iris?

Thanks!

Years ago a neighbor removed his window to get a sofa sleeper into a bedroom.

retiredguy123 01-16-2024 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2291746)
I guess that depends on the length of the sofa. But you could certainly angle it enough to shave a few inches of height.

If attempting anything first remove any legs and remove all doors. It’s more work to not remove the. Believe me.

Maybe, but the problem is making the turn from the foyer.

coconutmama 01-16-2024 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Rando (Post 2291262)
I was shopping a local furniture store and the salesperson said there is no way to get a couch longer than 80 inches into the front room of an Iris model. 80" is the height of the door entries and you need to bring the couch in vertically to be able to make the turn in the hallway. It seems to me if you brought it in at an angle you could exceed the 80" limit by getting it into the hall, spinning it slightly, and then angling it into the front room.

Does anyone else know if this is true and/or have you successfully moved a couch longer than 80" into the front room of an Iris?

Thanks!

It is true. Sofa has to go in vertically & must fit under the top of the door frame.

Lisanp@aol.com 01-16-2024 10:19 AM

I would believe that to be true for that room. However, there are several small scale sectionals on the market that get delivered as a sofa and a chaise (and popup to convert to a bed) that would help you to get a larger piece into the room. I believe they are referred to as "apartment sized". I had one in my last home and we loved it! Great for watching movies too with the sofa in "pop-up" position. I added a 4" memory foam mattress topper covered with a fitted sheet (to eliminate the cracks between the cushions) then made up with standard bedding and it was a very comfy Queen (sideways). There is even storage under the chaise section for all of the bedding.

Nansim 01-16-2024 10:35 AM

We ordered a queen size futon from Wayfair. We had to put it together, but directions were great. Sofa is great and bed is comfortable.

Two Bills 01-16-2024 11:21 AM

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Two Bills 01-16-2024 11:23 AM

This is how to do it!
Seen it done as well removing window frame.


Sofa movers, pass sofa through window | HANDY REMOVALS

bilcon 01-16-2024 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rando (Post 2291262)
I was shopping a local furniture store and the salesperson said there is no way to get a couch longer than 80 inches into the front room of an Iris model. 80" is the height of the door entries and you need to bring the couch in vertically to be able to make the turn in the hallway. It seems to me if you brought it in at an angle you could exceed the 80" limit by getting it into the hall, spinning it slightly, and then angling it into the front room.

Does anyone else know if this is true and/or have you successfully moved a couch longer than 80" into the front room of an Iris?

Thanks!

My couch in the front room of my Iris on the Wall is 84" long and I have two end tables next to it. There is at least another foot of room between the tables and the wall. No Problem.

Carla B 01-16-2024 12:03 PM

I didn't realize how many Villages floor plans this issue involved. We were told this limitation applied to our Lantana built in 2008. We got a full-sized sofa bed but it was cheaply built and tortuous for sleeping and we gave it away. Still haven't gotten serious about replacing it, but sure miss having a good place to sit and sleep in the front bedroom/office. Since a queen bed is 60" wide there ought to be a way to make a queen sized sofa bed less than 80". Or there ought to be a way to build houses to accommodate a sofa-sleeper greater than 80". Has no one complained to the Developer about this?

dnobles 01-16-2024 12:53 PM

I have an Iris. My couch is 82” long and it’s the second one I’ve had in here

justjim 01-16-2024 02:47 PM

Murphy bed
 
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Originally Posted by Carla B (Post 2291849)
I didn't realize how many Villages floor plans this issue involved. We were told this limitation applied to our Lantana built in 2008. We got a full-sized sofa bed but it was cheaply built and tortuous for sleeping and we gave it away. Still haven't gotten serious about replacing it, but sure miss having a good place to sit and sleep in the front bedroom/office. Since a queen bed is 60" wide there ought to be a way to make a queen sized sofa bed less than 80". Or there ought to be a way to build houses to accommodate a sofa-sleeper greater than 80". Has no one complained to the Developer about this?

Murphy wall bed will work.


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