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Altavia 01-21-2024 08:59 AM

District 12 Deed Restrictions Supplement
 
In case not aware, supplements to the External Deed Restriction Standards and Rules for District 12 were updated Nov 1, 2023.

Clarifications are extensive and detailed down to the home site.

Rules to bring about deed compliance have been added.

Complaints can only made by homeowners of the District.

Annomous/non-homeowner complaints will be logged. However, staff will not inspect the property to verify the complaint and the deed compliance process ends.

https://www.districtgov.org/departme...s.pdf?v=202312


II. PROCEDURE FOR COMPLIANCE:

Step 1. Complaints

Complaints of possible Rule violations may be made by a homeowner of District 12 only.

Complaints may be received by phone, fax, mail, electronic mail, online, or in person.

The complainant shall provide their name, unit and lot, and phone number, which shall be logged and retained for future follow-up and becomes part of the case record, which may become a public record. The complainant's name, unit and lot, and phone number will be verified to ensure the complainant is a homeowner of District 12.

If the complainant does not provide his/her name, unit and lot, and phone number, or is not a homeowner of District 12, the complaint shall be logged; however, staff will not inspect the property to verify the complaint and the deed compliance process ends.

asianthree 01-21-2024 11:08 AM

It’s about time. Wish every district will adopt soon. Compliance people will have at least half complaints to deal with

roob1 01-21-2024 11:50 AM

The real question is: Is the/ Will the complainers name be available to the accused party, or any one else not employed by TV?

Altavia 01-21-2024 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2293431)
It’s about time. Wish every district will adopt soon. Compliance people will have at least half complaints to deal with

Appears several other Districts have recently adopted similar rules so worth checking.

VCDD Community Standards

Altavia 01-21-2024 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roob1 (Post 2293443)
The real question is: Is the/ Will the complainers name be available to the accused party, or any one else not employed by TV?

The complainant shall provide their name, unit and lot, and phone number, which shall be logged and retained for future follow-up and becomes part of the case record, which may become a public record.

Tustin714 01-21-2024 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2293444)
Appears several other Districts have recently adopted similar rules so worth checking.

VCDD Community Standards

Thanks for posting this.

clekr 01-21-2024 03:33 PM

Might as well do away with any deed restrictions. When the Snow Whites start showing up people will regret this.

Bogie Shooter 01-21-2024 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clekr (Post 2293496)
Might as well do away with any deed restrictions. When the Snow Whites start showing up people will regret this.

Won’t happen.

vintageogauge 01-21-2024 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roob1 (Post 2293443)
The real question is: Is the/ Will the complainers name be available to the accused party, or any one else not employed by TV?

The community standards chiefs are not sworn to secrecy, they go home and tell their wives and you know within 24 hours the entire village in which they live knows who complained. I think it's a bad policy. A better policy is to have the board members write down every violation that they see when meandering around the district and then send out the notices, they can then take the heat. Or better yet have community watch do it.

Bogie Shooter 01-21-2024 06:32 PM

Apparently it didn’t work the last time Community Watch had that responsibility.

asianthree 01-21-2024 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2293444)
Appears several other Districts have recently adopted similar rules so worth checking.

VCDD Community Standards

As a person who had complaints filed on 3 houses (first and 2nd house landscaping developer planted.thrown out…3rd house White cross that would never be in our yard, was a dormant plant CS guy apologized said waste of time) by random stupid people. Waste of manpower and funds 50% filed.

I was glad when the first district adapted the new rules.

The hope that a $5 fee for each complaint returned if it was a violation, would be worth it, but bookkeeping nightmare.

The wording may or may not be public has been interesting.

dhdallas 01-21-2024 09:35 PM

So you are making it easier for people to violate the deed restrictions with their tacky lawn decor and harder for those who honor the rules to report them. Bring out your lawn jockeys and pink flamingos! Let's make TV look like a dumpy trailer park.

Topspinmo 01-21-2024 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2293381)
In case not aware, supplements to the External Deed Restriction Standards and Rules for District 12 were updated Nov 1, 2023.

Clarifications are extensive and detailed down to the home site.

Rules to bring about deed compliance have been added.

Complaints can only made by homeowners of the District.

Annomous/non-homeowner complaints will be logged. However, staff will not inspect the property to verify the complaint and the deed compliance process ends.

https://www.districtgov.org/departme...s.pdf?v=202312


II. PROCEDURE FOR COMPLIANCE:

Step 1. Complaints

Complaints of possible Rule violations may be made by a homeowner of District 12 only.

Complaints may be received by phone, fax, mail, electronic mail, online, or in person.

The complainant shall provide their name, unit and lot, and phone number, which shall be logged and retained for future follow-up and becomes part of the case record, which may become a public record. The complainant's name, unit and lot, and phone number will be verified to ensure the complainant is a homeowner of District 12.

If the complainant does not provide his/her name, unit and lot, and phone number, or is not a homeowner of District 12, the complaint shall be logged; however, staff will not inspect the property to verify the complaint and the deed compliance process ends.

Way it should have been 20 years ago. If you don’t live in that district it none of your business IMO. Actually IMO all districts should have SAME rules.

Topspinmo 01-21-2024 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roob1 (Post 2293443)
The real question is: Is the/ Will the complainers name be available to the accused party, or any one else not employed by TV?


No use villager ID number. If it get out they have rat to deal with.

Topspinmo 01-21-2024 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dhdallas (Post 2293569)
So you are making it easier for people to violate the deed restrictions with their tacky lawn decor and harder for those who honor the rules to report them. Bring out your lawn jockeys and pink flamingos! Let's make TV look like a dumpy trailer park.

No it won’t quit exaggerating.

Topspinmo 01-21-2024 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clekr (Post 2293496)
Might as well do away with any deed restrictions. When the Snow Whites start showing up people will regret this.

Please explain who snow whites are? Morse’s have certain districts that don’t follow same rules as use peons.

OrangeBlossomBaby 01-21-2024 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roob1 (Post 2293443)
The real question is: Is the/ Will the complainers name be available to the accused party, or any one else not employed by TV?

Yes. The information becomes public information. So if it's a legitimate, serious complaint against a wack-a-doodle neighbor who lives for revenge, you put your own property, and possibly your life, at risk by submitting a legitimate complaint for a deed restriction violation.

Things like mold and vines growing on the house, hoarding situations causing rodent problems, broken windows that don't get fixed after 6 months of being broken, someone's brand new flower bed raised by a wall that causes flooding in -your- garage...

you get a nut for a neighbor and watch out. Best not complain, just learn to accept it.

Topspinmo 01-21-2024 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2293594)
Yes. The information becomes public information. So if it's a legitimate, serious complaint against a wack-a-doodle neighbor who lives for revenge, you put your own property, and possibly your life, at risk by submitting a legitimate complaint for a deed restriction violation.

Things like mold and vines growing on the house, hoarding situations causing rodent problems, broken windows that don't get fixed after 6 months of being broken, someone's brand new flower bed raised by a wall that causes flooding in -your- garage...

you get a nut for a neighbor and watch out. Best not complain, just learn to accept it.

It takes months anyway. Why be any different than anonymous system. If different just use villager I’d number only powers to be could connect the dots.

JGibson 01-22-2024 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2293594)
Yes. The information becomes public information. So if it's a legitimate, serious complaint against a wack-a-doodle neighbor who lives for revenge, you put your own property, and possibly your life, at risk by submitting a legitimate complaint for a deed restriction violation.

Things like mold and vines growing on the house, hoarding situations causing rodent problems, broken windows that don't get fixed after 6 months of being broken, someone's brand new flower bed raised by a wall that causes flooding in -your- garage...

you get a nut for a neighbor and watch out. Best not to complain, just learn to accept it.

I try the nice approach first by telling my neighbor of a concern I have in regard to deed restrictions.

If they blow me off well I have no problem with them knowing it was me who filed a complaint.

Can’t live in fear all the time.

Stu from NYC 01-22-2024 09:00 AM

If this is done and think anonymous reports are just wrong, what will the two old biddies do all day if they cannot inform on their neighbors?

baustgen 01-23-2024 08:35 AM

First chip in the armour that made this place the number one retirement community in the country. Thanks to the Developer for trying to maintain the beauty and non- confrontational status. Hope my district maintains the current procedures for non-violent reporting. Only those who think they are above the rules cause the problems.

vintageogauge 01-23-2024 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baustgen (Post 2293874)
First chip in the armour that made this place the number one retirement community in the country. Thanks to the Developer for trying to maintain the beauty and non- confrontational status. Hope my district maintains the current procedures for non-violent reporting. Only those who think they are above the rules cause the problems.

Amen to that.

Nana2Teddy 01-23-2024 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2293573)
No use villager ID number. If it get out they have rat to deal with.

It specifically states you have to use your name.

ElDiabloJoe 01-23-2024 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2293539)
... The hope that a $5 fee for each complaint returned if it was a violation, would be worth it, but bookkeeping nightmare. ...

Didn't know that was a thing - I think asking the complainant having to submit $5 per complaint is a great idea. Keeps people from blast-complaining a gazillion complaints, and makes a complainant really need to care about the concern in order to submit it.


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