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village dreamer 01-24-2024 09:34 AM

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how can so many roofs be bad???? in my area , the roofs are only 8-9 years old. one roofer has done about 8 roofs around me. didn't they stop that roofing scam????

ElDiabloJoe 01-24-2024 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by village dreamer (Post 2294183)
how can so many roofs be bad???? in my area , the roofs are only 8-9 years old. one roofer has done about 8 roofs around me. didn't they stop that roofing scam????

Now that Ron is no longer campaigning for a national office, I hope he can get back to working for us here in Florida.

kkingston57 01-24-2024 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by village dreamer (Post 2294183)
how can so many roofs be bad???? in my area , the roofs are only 8-9 years old. one roofer has done about 8 roofs around me. didn't they stop that roofing scam????

If your neighbor got a "free" roof, scam is still ongoing. Now a lot of insurance companies are requiring a new roof under their underwriting guidelines

Topspinmo 01-24-2024 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by village dreamer (Post 2294183)
how can so many roofs be bad???? in my area , the roofs are only 8-9 years old. one roofer has done about 8 roofs around me. didn't they stop that roofing scam????


Did they stop roofing scam? Never going to stop insurance scams. Way laws are written so lawyers get paid so they can argue till the sun don’t rise. :sing:

Topspinmo 01-24-2024 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe (Post 2294213)
Now that Ron is no longer campaigning for a national office, I hope he can get back to working for us here in Florida.

So you think that’s going to stop it? All that does is make the innocent/honest pay for roof that wasn’t bad cause they can’t get insurance.

Stu from NYC 01-24-2024 02:10 PM

Sad this is still going on. Sometime soon our insurance company will make us replace roof even if still ok.

If only the insurance companies would require their own inspections before paying for a roof.

MrTwister 01-24-2024 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by village dreamer (Post 2294183)
how can so many roofs be bad???? in my area , the roofs are only 8-9 years old. one roofer has done about 8 roofs around me. didn't they stop that roofing scam????

Seen alot of homeowners insurance require new roof every 10 years in florida now. Budgeting for it is becoming common practice. Save 1000$ every year that way you dont get whacked all at once. Average roof on a average sized house here seems to be 10-12k. I know its not ideal but it is happening. Sadly. Asking for a itemized quote is one way to help keep things honest. I hear the pemits are more expensive in florida so that might be a factor. It seems to be about demand mostly. If there is no shortage of people paying it, they will keep charging it.

G.R.I.T.S. 01-25-2024 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by village dreamer (Post 2294183)
how can so many roofs be bad???? in my area , the roofs are only 8-9 years old. one roofer has done about 8 roofs around me. didn't they stop that roofing scam????

Ask those neighbors. They could have received a discount if they all bought one. We paid for ours and I’m sure there are those who thought it was a “free” roof.

GaryKoca 01-25-2024 06:25 AM

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I thought it was a requirement to get a roof every 15 years, by insurance companies. Lot of scams going on by roofing companies.

Salty Dog 01-25-2024 06:43 AM

My home in Royal Highlands had the original roof from 2002. I replaced it when I sold the house it in 2021. The roofing company inspector said it would probably be good for another 5 years or so, but many buyers and insurance companies might take issue with a nearly 20 year old roof...

Notsure 01-25-2024 07:04 AM

The latest thing, aside from insurance companies requiring new roofs, is bad shingles still under warranty. The shingles have deteriorated and being under warranty you may get free shingles and a stipend for some of the labor. You still pay for sheathing and some labor, so not a free roof.

Rzepecki 01-25-2024 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by village dreamer (Post 2294183)
how can so many roofs be bad???? in my area , the roofs are only 8-9 years old. one roofer has done about 8 roofs around me. didn't they stop that roofing scam????

The scam was on us by the insurance companies!

Rzepecki 01-25-2024 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by GaryKoca (Post 2294480)
I thought it was a requirement to get a roof every 15 years, by insurance companies. Lot of scams going on by roofing companies.

New roof every 15 years is the scam insurance companies are running on residents!

Switter 01-25-2024 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MrTwister (Post 2294334)
Seen alot of homeowners insurance require new roof every 10 years in florida now. Budgeting for it is becoming common practice. Save 1000$ every year that way you dont get whacked all at once. Average roof on an average sized house here seems to be 10-12k. I know its not ideal but it is happening. Sadly. Asking for an itemized quote is one way to help keep things honest. I hear the pemits are more expensive in florida so that might be a factor. It seems to be about demand mostly. If there is no shortage of people paying it, they will keep charging it.

this is wise advice, put it in a money market account at 4 to 5% interest. it's what I plan to do. And when I do replace it I'm gonna stick with a 25 year shingle instead of the more expensive 50 year.

Sandy and Ed 01-25-2024 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2294302)
Sad this is still going on. Sometime soon our insurance company will make us replace roof even if still ok.

If only the insurance companies would require their own inspections before paying for a roof.

Yup. Exactly what they should do. And use inspectors that can’t be bought by roofing companies or home owner. I’m not saying all the roofing companies are scammers. This is not an issue unique to Florida. Our over-50 in Bucks County PA has same problem. Home owner brags about zero dollar roof replacement via insurance and then neighbors step up to the plate. It’s a fraud, period and two parties are involved

Sandy and Ed 01-25-2024 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Notsure (Post 2294490)
The latest thing, aside from insurance companies requiring new roofs, is bad shingles still under warranty. The shingles have deteriorated and being under warranty you may get free shingles and a stipend for some of the labor. You still pay for sheathing and some labor, so not a free roof.

Wonder where you find the information about your original roof shingles to file a warranty claim. For our vacation home in Maine when we redid the roof we had the entire roof covered in Ice and Water Shield before shingles. Will never leak even if shingles fail

Sandy and Ed 01-25-2024 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by G.R.I.T.S. (Post 2294463)
Ask those neighbors. They could have received a discount if they all bought one. We paid for ours and I’m sure there are those who thought it was a “free” roof.

Great idea if you have enough neighbors interested. All the homes in a community were roofed at the same time with the same shingles so theoretically (no, positively) all should start to fail at the same time. We live in a 2009 Pennecamp CYV. Wondering if we can expect our shingles to start failing soon. Who did your roof and was it a collaborative event??

FredJacobs 01-25-2024 09:16 AM

That scam has contributed a lot to the rising premiums and non-renewals of homeowners insurance. I received a renewal for my policy with a few hundred dollars increase - not the doubling or tripling as others have had - with a letter that the price was based on having no claims. Having been in the insurance business for more than 20 years, I predicted this would happen.

Sorry folks - there ain't no such thing as a free lunch.

Edgewater2 01-25-2024 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy and Ed (Post 2294521)
Yup. Exactly what they should do. And use inspectors that can’t be bought by roofing companies or home owner. I’m not saying all the roofing companies are scammers. This is not an issue unique to Florida. Our over-50 in Bucks County PA has same problem. Home owner brags about zero dollar roof replacement via insurance and then neighbors step up to the plate. It’s a fraud, period and two parties are involved

Progressive, my insurance company, did require inspection by their chosen inspector. He did a thorough, time-consuming inspection and determined I needed a new roof. It was 12 years old. Therefore, at least in my case, insurance companies aren't just taking the homeowner's word for needing a new roof.

C. C. Rider 01-26-2024 09:40 AM

My understanding is that if your roof is no longer covered by your insurance, you still have the other coverages under your homeowner's insurance policy.

For example, if your house catches fire, that loss is covered. If you have a burst water pipe inside your house while you're away and the house is damaged by the water, that is still covered. If a visitor slips and falls on your sidewalk and sues you, that is still covered.

Only damages that can be attributed to a faulty/leaky roof are not covered. So, if you'd rather keep your current insurance without the roof leak coverage instead of spending $15K to $18K to have a new roof installed, then that's your option.

Michael G. 01-26-2024 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2294302)
Sad this is still going on. Sometime soon our insurance company will make us replace roof even if still ok.
If only the insurance companies would require their own inspections before paying for a roof.



BOTH Roofer and my Insurance Co. inspected my 3 yr. old roof and said because of hail, it needed replacing.

So not knowing anything about roofs and like a dump @ss I said OK, replace it.

I should have took the $$$$ and put it toward my ins, premiums without replacement and took my chances.

Stupid is as stupid does.

George Page 01-26-2024 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2294302)
If only the insurance companies would require their own inspections before paying for a roof.

They do.

retiredguy123 01-26-2024 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy and Ed (Post 2294525)
Wonder where you find the information about your original roof shingles to file a warranty claim. For our vacation home in Maine when we redid the roof we had the entire roof covered in Ice and Water Shield before shingles. Will never leak even if shingles fail

Try calling CertainTeed at 800-345-1145

BrianL99 01-26-2024 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy and Ed (Post 2294525)
For our vacation home in Maine when we redid the roof we had the entire roof covered in Ice and Water Shield before shingles. Will never leak even if shingles fail

I'd be more worried about mold & your entire roof structure failing, due to improper ventilation.

Ice & Water shield is not meant to cover the entire roof, especially in areas with wide temperature variations.

Carla B 01-26-2024 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2295109)
BOTH Roofer and my Insurance Co. inspected my 3 yr. old roof and said because of hail, it needed replacing.

So not knowing anything about roofs and like a dump @ss I said OK, replace it.

I should have took the $$$$ and put it toward my ins, premiums without replacement and took my chances.

Stupid is as stupid does.


Funny, in the last 15 years here our house has missed all these roof-wrecking storms. I may have seen hail once for less than a minute.

Pairadocs 01-26-2024 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe (Post 2294213)
Now that Ron is no longer campaigning for a national office, I hope he can get back to working for us here in Florida.

I second your motion ! He better get to doing something ! Relatives tell us this whole Florida roof scam scandal is now starting in their retirement community in Arkansas ! My parents lived in Minnesota where the snow was frequent and HEAVY on the roof of our old 2 story home... the roof was 40 years old ! The ONLY thing my dad did a coupe times was "tar" near the chimney.


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