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Philipd411 01-25-2024 09:16 AM

My T.V. sound
 
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OrangeBlossomBaby 01-25-2024 09:26 AM

Nope, it doesn't work that way. When you use a streaming box, it connects to the hearing aids via blue-tooth. Blue-tooth overrides your audio system and sends the sound directly to those hearing aids instead of through the TV's speakers.

What you can do though, is have her /not/ connect via blue-tooth, wear her hearing aides, and adjust the sound on the hearing aides instead of the TV. She should be able to adjust the volume, clarity, background noise, treble, bass, midrange. There's probably also a "custom setting" option, so she can set it all up for the TV, save it to a new setting called "mom's TV" and whenever she's watching a show with you all, she can just press that button and the sound will be audible and clear enough for her.

When she's alone, she can connect to the streaming box.

This is how I do it when hubby and I want to watch a show together.

ThirdOfFive 01-25-2024 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Philipd411 (Post 2294562)
My 92 year old mom is moving into my house. She needs hearing aids to hear the TV. She has a box that plugs into the TV that transmits to her hearing aids. But to use it I have to disconnect my sound on my TV so my wife and I can not hear. Does anyone here know of that tv that allows two differ audio sources to be used?

Sounds a whole lot like an issue I encountered a couple of years back. I have headphones for viewing as my wife is not wild about the sound when it is loud enough for me to hear. It is a "box" that plugs into the TV and that transmits the sound to my headphones. Not Bluetooth. Anyway I had purchased a new QLED TV (Sony Bravia) that worked great except that when the headphones were working, the sound from the speakers wouldn't, unless I unplugged the transmitter box from my TV--which was dead-center in the BACK rear of the TV; a 65" set on an entertainment center, which meant that I had to move the TV to unplug the box whenever we had company who actually wanted to hear the TV. There was no remote function that would toggle between the two. Very annoying. I called Sony and confirmed that that was just the way it was designed.

Anyway, as the TV was a Costco purchase I was able to return it and use the refund towards a set (Samsung) that DID have the toggle function.

You might want to call your TV manufacturer and explain your issue. They may be able to help. But if your mom's device is not Bluetooth, there's a chance that you're looking at a problem like mine which is designed into your TV.

Best of luck.

villagetinker 01-25-2024 09:51 AM

OP, you might look into a surround sound system that has and auxiliary output that could be used for the hearing aids. In this case, I would go to Best Buy, and explain to them exactly what you want to do and have them verify that you can have the surround sound speakers on at the same time as the auxiliary output. NOTE: the volume control will most likely control both outputs, so the hearing aids will probably need to be adjusted separately with their own control.
IMHO, I do not believe you will find a TV set that will do what you want, we have 3 in the house, all different brands and all assume that if you are using headphones you do not want the speakers on, and the adapter you are using plugs into the headphone jack. The only other option would be to see if there is an OPTICAL output on your TV, and then find an OPTICAL to headphone adapter. It appears that the optical output is always on.
Hope this helps.

retiredguy123 01-25-2024 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Philipd411 (Post 2294562)
My 92 year old mom is moving into my house. She needs hearing aids to hear the TV. She has a box that plugs into the TV that transmits to her hearing aids. But to use it I have to disconnect my sound on my TV so my wife and I can not hear. Does anyone here know of that tv that allows two differ audio sources to be used?

I'm confused. Most TVs have an "audio out" plug-in on the back of the TV, where you can plug in the hearing aids. The audio out can be either an optical connection or a 3.5 mm stereo connection or both. You can go to the TV settings options and select "external speakers" from the audio menu. This will send the sound to the hearing aids, but not to the TV speakers. I think this is pretty typical for most TVs.

Note that, if the hearing aids are bluetooth compatible, you can buy a bluetooth transmitter from Amazon for about $20 that will allow the audio out connection to serve as a bluetooth transmitter.

Keefelane66 01-25-2024 11:32 AM

My LG tv allowed the tv speaker and connected speakers can output sound simultaneously.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qTIhiN_gVUc

GpaVader 01-25-2024 12:19 PM

My Samsung allow the internal and Blue Tooth headset to work independently. My surround sound is connected via Optical if I choose to use it... But that only replaces the TV Speakers and still allows for independent control for the headset.

metoo21 01-25-2024 12:22 PM

My father-in-law uses these: SIMOLIO Dual Wireless Headphones for TV Watching

It's connected to Optical Out jack. He can adjust his own volume and others can adjust the TV speakers. Since this has 2 units, one is always charged.

Pinball wizard 01-25-2024 06:39 PM

What about just using a splitter on the external audio line?

RoadToad 01-26-2024 04:37 AM

Google "Tv Ears" ..

TV Ears(R) Official Store - TV Headphones & Hearing Aids

mntlblok 01-26-2024 06:00 AM

Toshiba-Link
 
Amazing thread. Learned a bunch. Now even know a bit about the history of Toshiba-Link. :-)

sharonl7340 01-26-2024 06:29 AM

2 options
 
Resound streamers at ReSound hearing aids and wireless accessories | ReSound US and the Tunity app.

Bill14564 01-26-2024 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2294590)
I'm confused. Most TVs have an "audio out" plug-in on the back of the TV, where you can plug in the hearing aids. The audio out can be either an optical connection or a 3.5 mm stereo connection or both. You can go to the TV settings options and select "external speakers" from the audio menu. This will send the sound to the hearing aids, but not to the TV speakers. I think this is pretty typical for most TVs.

Note that, if the hearing aids are bluetooth compatible, you can buy a bluetooth transmitter from Amazon for about $20 that will allow the audio out connection to serve as a bluetooth transmitter.

I believe this is the problem the OP currently has, he can send audio to the bluetooth OR he can send it to the speakers but not both. He wants both.


This bluetooth transmitter (or one like it) might do the job.

On my current TV and the last few I have owned, there is a digital audio out that is active at the same time the speakers are active. If I use the digital output to my stereo I need to turn the speaker volume down so that I don't hear both the TV speakers and the stereo speakers. If the device above was connected to the digital audio out then it looks like it would send a bluetooth signal at the same time the TV speakers were playing. I think this is what the OP is looking for.

EDIT: The Resound Streamer from post #12 appears to be the same type of device.

iamrlhayes 01-26-2024 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Philipd411 (Post 2294562)
My 92 year old mom is moving into my house. She needs hearing aids to hear the TV. She has a box that plugs into the TV that transmits to her hearing aids. But to use it I have to disconnect my sound on my TV so my wife and I can not hear. Does anyone here know of that tv that allows two differ audio sources to be used?

I have hearing aids that will do both. Sound adjustment for my wife and I can hear separately with my hearing aids.

midiwiz 01-26-2024 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Philipd411 (Post 2294562)
My 92 year old mom is moving into my house. She needs hearing aids to hear the TV. She has a box that plugs into the TV that transmits to her hearing aids. But to use it I have to disconnect my sound on my TV so my wife and I can not hear. Does anyone here know of that tv that allows two differ audio sources to be used?

If they are bluetooth, depending on your TV model you could all have a bluetooth connect to the audio.

ROCKETMAN 01-26-2024 07:52 AM

Hearing devise
 
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Originally Posted by Philipd411 (Post 2294562)
My 92 year old mom is moving into my house. She needs hearing aids to hear the TV. She has a box that plugs into the TV that transmits to her hearing aids. But to use it I have to disconnect my sound on my TV so my wife and I can not hear. Does anyone here know of that tv that allows two differ audio sources to be used?

I got my devise from the v a. Plugs into tv and comes into my hearing aids where I can adjust the volume. Television sound is completely independent and can be adjusted and makes no difference to my hearing aid sound.

deputydoc 01-26-2024 07:53 AM

TV sound
 
I have a pair of Beats headphones when hooked up via Bluetooth, I can adjust the volume in the head phones and at the same time my wife can put the TV volume at whatever level she likes

retiredguy123 01-26-2024 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2294832)
I believe this is the problem the OP currently has, he can send audio to the bluetooth OR he can send it to the speakers but not both. He wants both.


This bluetooth transmitter (or one like it) might do the job.

On my current TV and the last few I have owned, there is a digital audio out that is active at the same time the speakers are active. If I use the digital output to my stereo I need to turn the speaker volume down so that I don't hear both the TV speakers and the stereo speakers. If the device above was connected to the digital audio out then it looks like it would send a bluetooth signal at the same time the TV speakers were playing. I think this is what the OP is looking for.

EDIT: The Resound Streamer from post #12 appears to be the same type of device.

I misread the OP. I thought they didn't want to hear the TV sound through the TV speakers. I could be wrong, but I think you can connect more than one speaker to the audio output. In that case, you could connect the hearing aids and another speaker, like a soundbar, to the audio output. Also, you would get better sound even with a cheap soundbar. I never use the internal TV speakers anyway.

jimmy o 01-26-2024 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Philipd411 (Post 2294562)
My 92 year old mom is moving into my house. She needs hearing aids to hear the TV. She has a box that plugs into the TV that transmits to her hearing aids. But to use it I have to disconnect my sound on my TV so my wife and I can not hear. Does anyone here know of that tv that allows two differ audio sources to be used?

Pinball wizard is correct. A splitter and soundbar should solve your problem. Cost of splitter about $5. And you could get a decent sound bar for less than $100

petsetc 01-26-2024 08:12 AM

My hearing aid box (Starkey) has both an optical input and a 3.5mm jack input. I use the optical output from tv to soundbar, the I bought rca to 3.5mm cable for the hearing aid box.

bowlingal 01-26-2024 08:14 AM

use closed caption option for her

Crateman 01-26-2024 08:18 AM

I have had two different boxes from hearing manufacturers. Both have had sound from the tv and to my hearing aid at the same time. Use the digital out put on the tv and the hearing aid box. If you don’t have a digital output it may be the tv.

MidWestIA 01-26-2024 08:20 AM

box
 
I got a costco hearing aid and tv box at costco. I control my sound volume on the hearing aid and the tv sound is the remote at it's own level

write down the brand and model on it all and to to electronic store

WalkerLoop 01-26-2024 08:54 AM

Bought wireless ear insert headset
 
I bought Avantree HT4186 headset from Amazon. The transmitter connects to the TV and the headset inserts into ears like hearing aides. It's a totally separate audio volume control, on the ear set, so it doesn't affect the TV sound at all. It's easy to set up and works very well. The head set is wireless.

Indydealmaker 01-26-2024 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by metoo21 (Post 2294664)
My father-in-law uses these: SIMOLIO Dual Wireless Headphones for TV Watching

It's connected to Optical Out jack. He can adjust his own volume and others can adjust the TV speakers. Since this has 2 units, one is always charged.

These still require the TV to have the capability to allow the use of these without disabling the internal speakers.
Not for TVs with non-functional audio out ports (test before purchase). When hooking up an external audio device, some TV internal speakers might not work or become muted. This is TV’s feature

Justputt 01-26-2024 09:18 AM

Per Samsung "You can connect the TV to a Bluetooth speaker or headset, while using the TV speakers, by going to Settings>General>Accessibility>Multi-output Audio. This will allow using the TV speakers while connected to one Bluetooth device."

retiredguy123 01-26-2024 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Justputt (Post 2294942)
Per Samsung "You can connect the TV to a Bluetooth speaker or headset, while using the TV speakers, by going to Settings>General>Accessibility>Multi-output Audio. This will allow using the TV speakers while connected to one Bluetooth device."

That doesn't work on my Samsung TV.

NoMo50 01-26-2024 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2294566)
Nope, it doesn't work that way. When you use a streaming box, it connects to the hearing aids via blue-tooth. Blue-tooth overrides your audio system and sends the sound directly to those hearing aids instead of through the TV's speakers.

Not universally true, while it may be that way for your setup.

We have a Samsung TV, and I use Costco/Phonak hearing aids that use Bluetooth. I use a TV Connector box, also Bluetooth, that is connected to the TV's audio out jack via an optical (Toslink) cable. The TV Connector streams the audio directly to my hearing aids indepenent of the TV speakers. This allows me to hear the audio perfectly, while my wife can adjust the TV volume to her liking.

OrangeBlossomBaby 01-26-2024 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by NoMo50 (Post 2294951)
Not universally true, while it may be that way for your setup.

We have a Samsung TV, and I use Costco/Phonak hearing aids that use Bluetooth. I use a TV Connector box, also Bluetooth, that is connected to the TV's audio out jack via an optical (Toslink) cable. The TV Connector streams the audio directly to my hearing aids indepenent of the TV speakers. This allows me to hear the audio perfectly, while my wife can adjust the TV volume to her liking.

But then she would be hearing the sound directly in her ears AND the sound coming from the TV speakers. The TV speaker sound would sound muted, or unintelligible, or even screechy if her hearing aids are set certain ways.

I can wear my hearing aides, hear streaming from the streaming box through my computer, while also wearing my wired stereo headset plugged in to the back of my computer. I can hear the sound coming from both devices.

I'd never want to though, it's horrible, everything echoes.

On most TVs, if your speakers come from the TV itself and are not external speakers, you can't stream sound into your ears and output through the speakers at the same time. And for those TVs that let you do it, whoever is wearing the hearing aids will hear some kind of distortion, echo, screeching during commercials or music. That's because hearing aids are NOT noise-cancelling devices. They'll hear whatever sound is in the room (the TV coming through the speakers) PLUS whatever is being streamed into their ears (the TV coming through the streaming box).

retiredguy123 01-26-2024 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2294566)
Nope, it doesn't work that way. When you use a streaming box, it connects to the hearing aids via blue-tooth. Blue-tooth overrides your audio system and sends the sound directly to those hearing aids instead of through the TV's speakers.

What you can do though, is have her /not/ connect via blue-tooth, wear her hearing aides, and adjust the sound on the hearing aides instead of the TV. She should be able to adjust the volume, clarity, background noise, treble, bass, midrange. There's probably also a "custom setting" option, so she can set it all up for the TV, save it to a new setting called "mom's TV" and whenever she's watching a show with you all, she can just press that button and the sound will be audible and clear enough for her.

When she's alone, she can connect to the streaming box.

This is how I do it when hubby and I want to watch a show together.

I think that is only true if you use the bluetooth feature on the streaming box. But, you can buy an external bluetooth transmitter for about $20 on Amazon. It's a small 2-inch device that works great.

OrangeBlossomBaby 01-26-2024 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2294963)
I think that is only true if you use the bluetooth feature on the streaming box. But, you can buy an external bluetooth transmitter for about $20 on Amazon. It's a small 2-inch device that works great.

That's what I have. It's a streaming transmitter I got with my hearing aids. It's velcroed under my computer desk and plugs into the computer. I don't have a streaming box on my computer, and I don't use a TV set to watch TV. My computer doesn't have speakers. I use my hearing aids, and if I need to charge them, I switch to my headset which is always plugged in to the USB port.

I can use my transmitter on the TV instead of the computer, but it would override the sound and the speakers on the TV would automatically mute.

nn0wheremann 01-26-2024 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Philipd411 (Post 2294562)
My 92 year old mom is moving into my house. She needs hearing aids to hear the TV. She has a box that plugs into the TV that transmits to her hearing aids. But to use it I have to disconnect my sound on my TV so my wife and I can not hear. Does anyone here know of that tv that allows two differ audio sources to be used?

Just get a “Y” connector dongle, plug her device into one side and some computer speakers or a sound bar into the other, and plug that into your TV external speaker socket.

OrangeBlossomBaby 01-26-2024 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by nn0wheremann (Post 2294980)
Just get a “Y” connector dongle, plug her device into one side and some computer speakers or a sound bar into the other, and plug that into your TV external speaker socket.

Bluetooth streamers don't go into speaker sockets. Her hearing aides receive sound via bluetooth, not wifi, using a device designed for the purpose. These devices plug in to a USB port and the sound will transmit directly into her hearing aids as long as she's less than 60-ish feet away from the device.

retiredguy123 01-26-2024 10:07 AM

Slightly off topic, but I have found that, if you have a surround system, connecting the TV optical output to your receiver will provide digital sound that is as good or better than using an HDMI cable. I had my receiver connected to a TV HDMI output for a few weeks, and there was always a delay when I turned on the TV and sometimes it wouldn't even connect. Some people will tell you that HDMI provides the best sound, but it is actually not true.

Bill14564 01-26-2024 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2294959)
But then she would be hearing the sound directly in her ears AND the sound coming from the TV speakers. The TV speaker sound would sound muted, or unintelligible, or even screechy if her hearing aids are set certain ways.

Which is exactly what the OP asked for:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philipd411 (Post 2294562)
My 92 year old mom is moving into my house. She needs hearing aids to hear the TV. She has a box that plugs into the TV that transmits to her hearing aids. But to use it I have to disconnect my sound on my TV so my wife and I can not hear. Does anyone here know of that tv that allows two differ audio sources to be used?

There are generally two types of outputs on televisions these days, External Speakers and Digital Audio Out. Using External Speakers requires a choice - sound either comes from the internal speakers OR the external speakers. Digital Audio Out does not require a choice - sound comes from BOTH at the same time. Use whichever works best for you but the OP will want the Digital Audio Out connection.

retiredguy123 01-26-2024 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2294982)
Bluetooth streamers don't go into speaker sockets. Her hearing aides receive sound via bluetooth, not wifi, using a device designed for the purpose. These devices plug in to a USB port and the sound will transmit directly into her hearing aids as long as she's less than 60-ish feet away from the device.

You can plug a splitter into the audio output on the TV. Connect an external bluetooth transmitter (for the hearing aid) to one side and connect the other side to a soundbar using a cable. You can buy a splitter for an optical cable or for an analog cable.

mrkorn12@aol.com 01-26-2024 10:27 AM

The "box" is called a Transmitter. We have one for several years. BTW-- more than one pair of hearing aids can be synced to that Transmitter. The Optical Cable from your television's Audio output plugs into it. The television audio should still work-- just like before your mom moved in. That should be all this is to it. If your mother is alone, and the television audio is bothering her-- just mute the television's audio. If your television's audio is connected by an Optical cable to a sound bar-- that is no problem either. Buy a Optical cable splitter from Amazon for about $15. Connect it to the television's audio output. Then, one optical cable is attached from the Splitter's output to the sound bar, and the second Optical Splitter's output is attached to the Transmitter. This is exactly how we have it hooked-up, and it works perfectly. Any questions-- send me a Private Message.

SteelGator 01-26-2024 10:33 AM

My Oticon blue tooth device that came with the hearing aids has a cable that connects the two analog ports of the blue tooth device to the single audio out port of my Samsung TV. I operate the blue tooth function from my hearing aids, and it works independently of whether the TV is providing sound to the room or is muted. In other words, the other listener in the room is unaffected by my use of blue tooth. It also worked with a Sony TV in my previous house.

retiredguy123 01-26-2024 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mrkorn12@aol.com (Post 2295002)
The "box" is called a Transmitter. We have one for several years. BTW-- more than one pair of hearing aids can be synced to that Transmitter. The Optical Cable from your television's Audio output plugs into it. The television audio should still work-- just like before your mom moved in. That should be all this is to it. If your mother is alone, and the television audio is bothering her-- just mute the television's audio. If your television's audio is connected by an Optical cable to a sound bar-- that is no problem either. Buy a Optical cable splitter from Amazon for about $15. Connect it to the television's audio output. Then, one optical cable is attached from the Splitter's output to the sound bar, and the second Optical Splitter's output is attached to the Transmitter. This is exactly how we have it hooked-up, and it works perfectly. Any questions-- send me a Private Message.

Not all TVs work that way. On my Samsung, if you want to use the audio out or the digital audio out connections, you cannot also use the internal TV speakers. My TV is about 7 years old, so I don't know how the newer TVs operate. But, I have found that, a lot of posters asking for help on TOTV have old TVs.

dpmers 01-26-2024 11:52 AM

Get an optical splitter, I have one and it works great


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