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pikeselectric 02-09-2024 02:49 PM

SO Excited to share this one! LED Soffit Lighting by Pike's Electric
 
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Hello to all! Casandra here with Pike's Electric. I hope our friends on Talk of The Villages are having a splendid Friday. I am so excited to share some recent work photos by our guys here at Pike's Electric.
Attached are some photos of a home we installed some LED soffit wafer-style can lights. Check out how bright they are in the early evening! We installed these on the homeowner's provided timer/dimmer, but usually, we provide a new LED dimmer for dimming functions. This homeowner went with the wafer fixtures in a black finish, to match the dark roof/eaves of his home, and my, what a great outcome this was!

"Thanks for the lights looks sooooo nice! We are very happy. The guys very professional and clean." - Mr. Merced-Gonzalez

Does this look appealing for your home? I would love to help you get set up for a FREE at home estimate. You are welcome to call or office (352-748-6251), send us a direct message, or email me at cnelson@pikeselectric.com! Please be sure to mention you saw us on Talk of The Villages, because we will give you 5% OFF the normal cost of installation for ANY and ALL of our services. Wishing you a beautiful weekend!

Bogie Shooter 02-09-2024 03:15 PM

Do these require ARC approval?

pikeselectric 02-09-2024 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2299475)
Do these require ARC approval?

Hi there Bogie Shooter! Most of our customers have had them installed with no Arc Approval submitted and no complaints. Although some Villages/Villa sections can have different restrictions, we have not heard of it being a requirement :)

Pairadocs 02-09-2024 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pikeselectric (Post 2299479)
Hi there Bogie Shooter! Most of our customers have had them installed with no Arc Approval submitted and no complaints. Although some Villages/Villa sections can have different restrictions, we have not heard of it being a requirement :)

Sooo, not being rude, just trying to understand clearly, when you say "most" are able to add these "without" complaints, does that they DO need to be approved and that some folks have just not been caught because no one has turned them in ? Or, are you saying these do NOT fall under the auspices of the rules and regulation ? I've used Pike's, they were the original electrical contractor when we built and always knew what needed approval. Please be a little more clear on your answer to we are not led astray. Again, NOT tying to be confrontational at all, just wanted to know clearly the Villages stand on having pre-approval.

CoachKandSportsguy 02-09-2024 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by pikeselectric (Post 2299466)

Attached are some photos of a home we installed some LED soffit wafer-style can lights. Check out how bright they are in the early evening! We installed these on the homeowner's provided timer/dimmer, but usually, we provide a new LED dimmer for dimming functions. This homeowner went with the wafer fixtures in a black finish, to match the dark roof/eaves of his home, and my, what a great outcome this was!


very, cool! nice, we are thinking about something like this and will talk about it!

retiredguy123 02-09-2024 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pairadocs (Post 2299480)
Sooo, not being rude, just trying to understand clearly, when you say "most" are able to add these "without" complaints, does that they DO need to be approved and that some folks have just not been caught because no one has turned them in ? Or, are you saying these do NOT fall under the auspices of the rules and regulation ? I've used Pike's, they were the original electrical contractor when we built and always knew what needed approval. Please be a little more clear on your answer to we are not led astray. Again, NOT tying to be confrontational at all, just wanted to know clearly the Villages stand on having pre-approval.

It sure looks like something that would require ARC approval. Typically, the deed restrictions require ARC approval for anything that would substantially "alter the exterior appearance" of the house. I wouldn't have it installed without seeking ARC approval. All it takes is one neighbor to complain, and you may need to remove or disable the lighting. My next door neighbor was required to remove a light from his flagpole because of a complaint by a neighbor behind his house.

Stu from NYC 02-09-2024 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2299506)
It sure looks like something that would require ARC approval. Typically, the deed restrictions require ARC approval for anything that would substantially "alter the exterior appearance" of the house. I wouldn't have it installed without seeking ARC approval. All it takes is one neighbor to complain, and you may need to remove or disable the lighting. My next door neighbor was required to remove a light from his flagpole because of a complaint by a neighbor behind his house.

Your right better to get approval beforehand than be sorry down the road

CarlR33 02-09-2024 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2299506)
It sure looks like something that would require ARC approval. Typically, the deed restrictions require ARC approval for anything that would substantially "alter the exterior appearance" of the house. I wouldn't have it installed without seeking ARC approval. All it takes is one neighbor to complain, and you may need to remove or disable the lighting. My next door neighbor was required to remove a light from his flagpole because of a complaint by a neighbor behind his house.

Most do not realize that lighting can impact other neighbors. I have a neighbor in the Midwest that simply put a brighter motion activated light on his back garage door light so in the middle of the night if the wind blows hard or a deer trips it then it reflects through my house window onto a wall and ricochets back into my bedroom. At that time of night it does him no good on the back of his house.

mikreb 02-10-2024 06:33 AM

Bug attractant?

Desiderata 02-10-2024 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Pairadocs (Post 2299480)
Sooo, not being rude, just trying to understand clearly, when you say "most" are able to add these "without" complaints, does that they DO need to be approved and that some folks have just not been caught because no one has turned them in ? Or, are you saying these do NOT fall under the auspices of the rules and regulation ? I've used Pike's, they were the original electrical contractor when we built and always knew what needed approval. Please be a little more clear on your answer to we are not led astray. Again, NOT tying to be confrontational at all, just wanted to know clearly the Villages stand on having pre-approval.

Pairadocs, a call to ARC will answer your question. Don’t rely on anyone else to answer this for you. I personally don’t see how these lights could possibly upset a n’bor.
Cassandra, the lights look beautiful!

MandoMan 02-10-2024 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Pairadocs (Post 2299480)
Sooo, not being rude, just trying to understand clearly, when you say "most" are able to add these "without" complaints, does that they DO need to be approved and that some folks have just not been caught because no one has turned them in ? Or, are you saying these do NOT fall under the auspices of the rules and regulation ? I've used Pike's, they were the original electrical contractor when we built and always knew what needed approval. Please be a little more clear on your answer to we are not led astray. Again, NOT tying to be confrontational at all, just wanted to know clearly the Villages stand on having pre-approval.

I think you are right. The lights look great, from an architectural viewpoint, but I live in a courtyard villa in a lovely neighborhood where the outside lighting is mostly just the pole lamps in the front yard. I would NOT want my neighbors installing lighting like this where it could shine in my windows. I have neighbors about fifty feet away who have a small motion-activated security light in their back yard that comes on now and then, but it only stays on for a few seconds. As it is, we have so much light pollution that we can hardly see any stars. When was the last night when you could see the Milky Way?

Altavia 02-10-2024 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by CarlR33 (Post 2299539)
Most do not realize that lighting can impact other neighbors. I have a neighbor in the Midwest that simply put a brighter motion activated light on his back garage door light so in the middle of the night if the wind blows hard or a deer trips it then it reflects through my house window onto a wall and ricochets back into my bedroom. At that time of night it does him no good on the back of his house.

Some restrictions state exterior lights can't shine on adjacent properties so down lighting should be ok.

They are using similar lighting on new builds. They look great!

LonnyP 02-10-2024 07:45 AM

I cannot see any of the pictures. It shows up as if there are not any thumbnails attached.

bioman419 02-10-2024 07:48 AM

Take a ride down Conservation Trail (off Moyer Loop) in the Village of Pine Hills after dark.Some of those look really great and others not so. Only one is real bright.

retiredguy123 02-10-2024 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by LonnyP (Post 2299633)
I cannot see any of the pictures. It shows up as if there are not any thumbnails attached.

Are you using the old version of the TOTV website? If so, try switching to the new version. It allows more data to be attached to a post.

Gunny2403 02-10-2024 08:03 AM

Pike installed similar lighting in the overhang on the rear patio of my home. Love them. Pikes does the job right.

Nana2Teddy 02-10-2024 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by LonnyP (Post 2299633)
I cannot see any of the pictures. It shows up as if there are not any thumbnails attached.

Same for me.

maistocars 02-10-2024 08:57 AM

Cassandra - is that a Villages home as it does not look like any model I've ever seen (but I like it)?

Mrfriendly 02-10-2024 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2299611)
Some restrictions state exterior lights can't shine on adjacent properties so down lighting should be ok.

They are using similar lighting on new builds. They look great!

Do you know where we can find pics of new built homes in TV with down lighting?

Jdasta 02-10-2024 09:24 AM

Advertising?
 
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Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy (Post 2299502)
very, cool! nice, we are thinking about something like this and will talk about it!

Why is advertising allowed in Talk of the Villages? Now this site will become full of ads.
And, to respond to Pike’s Electric: I can’t even imagine house to be lit up like that. Landscape lighting is different. It is subdued and beautiful in most cases.

PugMom 02-10-2024 09:57 AM

i used Pike's by recommendation from this site. you did an excellent job, very professional yet personable. this looks interesting, & i will ask approval, but can these lights be in color, say blue?? thx!

PugMom 02-10-2024 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jdasta (Post 2299703)
Why is advertising allowed in Talk of the Villages? Now this site will become full of ads.
And, to respond to Pike’s Electric: I can’t even imagine house to be lit up like that. Landscape lighting is different. It is subdued and beautiful in most cases.


not really. there's been ads here before, & yes, i've used some. it's good info if you ever need it.

CoachKandSportsguy 02-10-2024 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PugMom (Post 2299717)
i used Pike's by recommendation from this site. you did an excellent job, very professional yet personable. this looks interesting, & i will ask approval, but can these lights be in color, say blue?? thx!

oh interesting, good question!

assuming these are LEDS, what is the temperature of the lights?
am thinking these will be in the 2K range if white. .

thanks

NJRICHARD 02-10-2024 10:40 AM

The $64 question?
 
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Originally Posted by pikeselectric (Post 2299466)
hello to all! Casandra here with pike's electric. I hope our friends on talk of the villages are having a splendid friday. I am so excited to share some recent work photos by our guys here at pike's electric.
Attached are some photos of a home we installed some led soffit wafer-style can lights. Check out how bright they are in the early evening! We installed these on the homeowner's provided timer/dimmer, but usually, we provide a new led dimmer for dimming functions. This homeowner went with the wafer fixtures in a black finish, to match the dark roof/eaves of his home, and my, what a great outcome this was!

"thanks for the lights looks sooooo nice! We are very happy. The guys very professional and clean." - mr. Merced-gonzalez

does this look appealing for your home? I would love to help you get set up for a free at home estimate. You are welcome to call or office (352-748-6251), send us a direct message, or email me at cnelson@pikeselectric.com! Please be sure to mention you saw us on talk of the villages, because we will give you 5% off the normal cost of installation for any and all of our services. Wishing you a beautiful weekend!

ok, what did this electrical job cost?? Bottom number??

Carla B 02-10-2024 10:52 AM

The house shown may not even be in The Villages since there are overhead electrical lines. If not in The Villages, no, they wouldn't need Villages ARC approval.

HORNET 02-10-2024 12:11 PM

Someone is going to turn you in.

jump4 02-10-2024 03:04 PM

Beautiful, but probably a bug magnet.

PugMom 02-10-2024 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy (Post 2299719)
oh interesting, good question!

assuming these are LEDS, what is the temperature of the lights?
am thinking these will be in the 2K range if white. .

thanks

i'm thinking blue is much easier on the eyes @ night, & would solve the problem of disturbing the neighbors. not sure the temp of bulbs , how would i find out?

sallyg 02-10-2024 03:40 PM

This is a huge ad. Is advertising such as this permitted on this site?

Bogie Shooter 02-10-2024 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdasta (Post 2299703)
Why is advertising allowed in Talk of the Villages? Now this site will become full of ads.
And, to respond to Pike’s Electric: I can’t even imagine house to be lit up like that. Landscape lighting is different. It is subdued and beautiful in most cases.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sallyg (Post 2299830)
This is a huge ad. Is advertising such as this permitted on this site?

OP is a TOTV SPONSOR (for clarity paid advertiser)

pikeselectric 02-12-2024 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by maistocars (Post 2299678)
Cassandra - is that a Villages home as it does not look like any model I've ever seen (but I like it)?

Hi Maistocars - This new construction home is actually located in Marion Oaks. hence why it looks a bit different ;) We have done many in The Villages as well. Hopefully to get more photos from these clients soon too

pikeselectric 02-12-2024 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdasta (Post 2299703)
Why is advertising allowed in Talk of the Villages? Now this site will become full of ads.
And, to respond to Pike’s Electric: I can’t even imagine house to be lit up like that. Landscape lighting is different. It is subdued and beautiful in most cases.

Hi Jdasta - Apologize for any inconvenience. Talk of The Villages has become a great platform for us to discuss our services and provide advice/suggestions at no cost to members. Talk of The Villages has offered this service to a wide range of contractors/specialties, and they only allow professionals to be part of this site as posting members. Although we advertise our services, we do not mean to flood your forums with our postings. Landscape lighting does in fact give a more subdued, ambiance look versus the soffit lights shown. However, we always suggest installing the soffit lighting shown on this install on a dimmer. We never suggest any lighting that could be harsh to the neighbors. We appreciate your feedback - Casandra

pikeselectric 02-12-2024 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PugMom (Post 2299717)
i used Pike's by recommendation from this site. you did an excellent job, very professional yet personable. this looks interesting, & i will ask approval, but can these lights be in color, say blue?? thx!

Hi PugMom. Our lights pictured on this install are color selectable white only. So they can be toggled from Warm White 2700k to daylight bright white 5000k. Pictured is somewhere between 4000-5000k daylight. The warmer temps are usually better suggested for homes of a warmer shade of paint, or for homeowners who do not prefer the harsh daylight temperature. To some, this looks brighter than the warm option :)

pikeselectric 02-12-2024 09:37 AM

Hello Pairadocs and others that have questioned the Arc Approval need for specific lighting installs. Sorry I am just responding as we are back in the office today! To our professional knowledge, lighting of this caliber is not required for Arc Approval. However, as a homeowner in The Villages, depending on your county/village/villa section, we encourage you to direct concerns and questions directly to the Arc Approval board.
Here's a link to their site and phone numbers for applicable counties: Village Community Development Districts

As the homeowner, you are responsible to obtain these approvals if needed, and any trade, including landscapers, electricians, etc. are not required to obtain these approvals on your behalf or inquire. However, I speak for our department at Pike's Electric, that we always advise our customers of any installations that we feel would require approval along with permitting. We do not encourage any electrical installations that would be "frowed upon" by the community or cause a deal of frustration to your neighbors (Like obscene lighting fixtures or directly shining lights into your neighbors window) that type of thing.
I am happy to answer any direct questions if anyone has any!
Thank you! - Casandra

retiredguy123 02-12-2024 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pikeselectric (Post 2300296)
Hello Pairadocs and others that have questioned the Arc Approval need for specific lighting installs. Sorry I am just responding as we are back in the office today! To our professional knowledge, lighting of this caliber is not required for Arc Approval. However, as a homeowner in The Villages, depending on your county/village/villa section, we encourage you to direct concerns and questions directly to the Arc Approval board.
Here's a link to their site and phone numbers for applicable counties: Village Community Development Districts

As the homeowner, you are responsible to obtain these approvals if needed, and any trade, including landscapers, electricians, etc. are not required to obtain these approvals on your behalf or inquire. However, I speak for our department at Pike's Electric, that we always advise our customers of any installations that we feel would require approval along with permitting. We do not encourage any electrical installations that would be "frowed upon" by the community or cause a deal of frustration to your neighbors (Like obscene lighting fixtures or directly shining lights into your neighbors window) that type of thing.
I am happy to answer any direct questions if anyone has any!
Thank you! - Casandra

According to Gracie at the Community Standards office, lights installed under the soffit on a Villages house would NOT require an ARC application or ARC approval.

GoRedSox! 02-12-2024 10:39 AM

Thank you, Casandra, can you comment on the posts that said these lights could attract bugs? Thank you.

pikeselectric 02-12-2024 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoRedSox! (Post 2300325)
Thank you, Casandra, can you comment on the posts that said these lights could attract bugs? Thank you.

Hi there GoRedSox, I have not had any of our customers report an influx of bugs attracted to these new soffit lights. I will say, commonly, if you live near a body of water/preserve in The Villages, I have had customers use warmer color temp. bulbs and fixtures (2700k) even some stores sell "Bug Bulbs" that are yellow/amber which the bugs to do not like, which can help.
But to answer, to our knowledge, we have not had a bug issue :)

pikeselectric 02-12-2024 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2300313)
According to Gracie at the Community Standards office, lights installed under the soffit on a Villages house would NOT require an ARC application or ARC approval.

Thank you so much for sharing!! This helps everyone be in the know :bigbow:

Altavia 02-12-2024 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pikeselectric (Post 2300282)
Hi Maistocars - This new construction home is actually located in Marion Oaks. hence why it looks a bit different ;) We have done many in The Villages as well. Hopefully to get more photos from these clients soon too

Think I saw them on display homes in Middleton, so maybe on the new Street of Dreams homes.

Had them on a previous home up north. I like them much better than coach lights that get full of bugs and the finish fades out.

I ask to do this on my custom build 3yrs ago and they said no. But they started doing it a year or two later.

JMintzer 02-12-2024 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2299840)
OP is a TOTV SPONSOR (for clarity paid advertiser)

Yes, and those PAID sponsors help pay for the costs to keep this FREE site running...


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