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MrFitness 02-09-2024 10:43 PM

Is Dabney too isolated now and long term ?
 
I will be visiting in 2 weeks and will likely purchase a Patio in either Dabney or Moultrie Creek. I can save about $30k in Dabney when considering bond. Maybe more when considering future costs of building materials if I wait even longer.

For those who purchased in the newer sections (Lake Denham, Dabney); does the drive north get old ? Are you worried that you will feel cut off as new development goes south on the other side of the turnpike ?

I've seen some people state they think another cart connection will be built (maybe CR470) in the future. Aside from Lake Denham and Dabney residents, who would that really benefit (so why would they bother building it) ? Is more development going to happen south of Dabney north/east of the turnpike ?

Laker14 02-10-2024 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MrFitness (Post 2299557)
I will be visiting in 2 weeks and will likely purchase a Patio in either Dabney or Moultrie Creek. I can save about $30k in Dabney when considering bond. Maybe more when considering future costs of building materials if I wait even longer.

For those who purchased in the newer sections (Lake Denham, Dabney); does the drive north get old ? Are you worried that you will feel cut off as new development goes south on the other side of the turnpike ?

I've seen some people state they think another cart connection will be built (maybe CR470) in the future. Aside from Lake Denham and Dabney residents, who would that really benefit (so why would they bother building it) ? Is more development going to happen south of Dabney north/east of the turnpike ?

Have you visited TV before?
If not, you would be doing yourself a favor to make a few visits and spend some time here before you take the plunge.

What will you be driving north for? If it's for golf, then you really need to consider some other areas. I'm in Poinciana, a Village that was built about 18 years ago, and is about as central to all of the current championship courses as you can get. I made the drive by golf cart down to Southern Oaks yesterday. That's about 30-35 minutes by golf cart. Lopez, in the opposite direction, is about the same. That's as long as I want to sit in a golf cart before I play golf. And I wouldn't want to have to do that every time I play golf. Most are 15-20 minutes, some are as close as 5 or 10.

The concept of TV, when they were building north of 44, and even more so north of 466A is that everything would be within a comfortable cart ride. Executive golf, Championship Golf, squares, rec centers, pools...and not just one, but multiple choices of all of the above.

That isn't possible right now, and won't be for a long time, if it ever is, with the way things are developing as TV spreads southward. So if that's what you want, you won't get it. If you want something else, it may work for you.
You really need to see it all to make a good decision.

TCRSO 02-10-2024 06:26 AM

Dabney is in Lake County, Moultrie is in Sumter County. Lake County has a higher interest rate on the bond and higher taxes.

Marathon Man 02-10-2024 06:43 AM

I have several friends who have moved to that area of TV. The don't complain about the distance to anything. You mentioned the drive north and wonder if it gets old. I live south of 44. I rarely drive north any further than 466A, and not very often to there. So no, it does not get old.

Laker14 02-10-2024 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 2299591)
I have several friends who have moved to that area of TV. The don't complain about the distance to anything. You mentioned the drive north and wonder if it gets old. I live south of 44. I rarely drive north any further than 466A, and not very often to there. So no, it does not get old.

are you a golfer?

frayedends 02-10-2024 07:34 AM

I’m in Lake Denham. Highway noise is loud depending on weather. Sawgrass Grove is only 10 minutes by cart. Brownwood will be about 35 minutes by cart from Dabney (30 for me). Eastport is only 20 minutes by cart over the Bexley bridge. If they do a cart path and 470 it will be shorter. There is also land right across 470 from Dabney that is owned by the Villages and will likely be commercial space according to. Wingnut video. I think it was video 133 but he also updated that video and I don’t recall it mentioned in the update.

MrFitness 02-10-2024 07:39 AM

Thanks. Yes, I did a lifestyle visit in 2022 near Brownwod and loved everything about it. And golf is part of my reason, but I will embrace many activities. I don't think a 20 minute cart ride will bother me, but 30+ may. On the flip, I routinely drive 40+ minutes to play golf up here.

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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2299566)
Have you visited TV before?
If not, you would be doing yourself a favor to make a few visits and spend some time here before you take the plunge.

What will you be driving north for? If it's for golf, then you really need to consider some other areas. I'm in Poinciana, a Village that was built about 18 years ago, and is about as central to all of the current championship courses as you can get. I made the drive by golf cart down to Southern Oaks yesterday. That's about 30-35 minutes by golf cart. Lopez, in the opposite direction, is about the same. That's as long as I want to sit in a golf cart before I play golf. And I wouldn't want to have to do that every time I play golf. Most are 15-20 minutes, some are as close as 5 or 10.

The concept of TV, when they were building north of 44, and even more so north of 466A is that everything would be within a comfortable cart ride. Executive golf, Championship Golf, squares, rec centers, pools...and not just one, but multiple choices of all of the above.

That isn't possible right now, and won't be for a long time, if it ever is, with the way things are developing as TV spreads southward. So if that's what you want, you won't get it. If you want something else, it may work for you.
You really need to see it all to make a good decision.


MrFitness 02-10-2024 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TCRSO (Post 2299584)
Dabney is in Lake County, Moultrie is in Sumter County. Lake County has a higher interest rate on the bond and higher taxes.

True, but the bond in Dabney is $7k less than Moultrie. Not sure what the tax diff is but will find out during my visit.

MrFitness 02-10-2024 07:43 AM

Thanks. That is good to hear.

MrFitness 02-10-2024 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2299592)
are you a golfer?

Yes

Laker14 02-10-2024 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by MrFitness (Post 2299636)
Yes

If you are a golfer and seldom go north of 466A there are a lot of courses you don't play, including 7 of the championship courses (8 if you count Orange Blossom which is a great layout IMO, but we don't get there much, too remote even for us north of 466A). Which is fine if that's fine with you.

I'm suggesting that anyone who plans on golf in TV being central to their lifestyle here spend some time figuring out if that's going to work for them.

Laker14 02-10-2024 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by MrFitness (Post 2299630)
Thanks. Yes, I did a lifestyle visit in 2022 near Brownwod and loved everything about it. And golf is part of my reason, but I will embrace many activities. I don't think a 20 minute cart ride will bother me, but 30+ may. On the flip, I routinely drive 40+ minutes to play golf up here.

But is that why you are moving to TV, so you can drive 40 minutes to play golf? If you are OK with that, fine.
With the current layout, that's what you will often face if you settle down in the newest, most southerly villages.

MrFitness 02-10-2024 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2299674)
But is that why you are moving to TV, so you can drive 40 minutes to play golf? If you are OK with that, fine.
With the current layout, that's what you will often face if you settle down in the newest, most southerly villages.

Thanks for your responses. And no, playing golf 40 minutes away is not why I'm moving to TV. I won't bore you with all of the reasons, but I would play golf a couple times a week if I lived here. I probably would play the courses near me most often.

My bigger concern is that new amenities will be built south as the years go by. From Dabney, by cart, that is a 15 minute trek north added to every trip. I can mitigate that by spending more and purchasing in Moultrie Creek or waiting for future villages. But I think every village I wait on will come with an incremental price increase and decrease time here.

Dusty_Star 02-10-2024 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MrFitness (Post 2299557)
I will be visiting in 2 weeks and will likely purchase a Patio in either Dabney or Moultrie Creek. I can save about $30k in Dabney when considering bond. Maybe more when considering future costs of building materials if I wait even longer.
For those who purchased in the newer sections (Lake Denham, Dabney); does the drive north get old ? Are you worried that you will feel cut off as new development goes south on the other side of the turnpike ?
I've seen some people state they think another cart connection will be built (maybe CR470) in the future. Aside from Lake Denham and Dabney residents, who would that really benefit (so why would they bother building it) ? Is more development going to happen south of Dabney north/east of the turnpike ?

My question would be: do you want a brand new house? If you were willing to consider a pre-owned house, you could possibly get a patio villa in an established neighborhood where you would know where all of the amenities, shopping, entertainment, Dr's offices, etc. already exist, in some cases for close to the same price as new houses. Some houses have the bond paid off or the bond is small compared to new houses. Some houses have made enhancements you might like, & some might have landscaping you might like. Some have had upgrades done recently like new roofs or new HVAC. However, if you want new, then the newly being developed areas are your choice, but none of us will be able to predict the future.

Rainger99 02-10-2024 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MrFitness (Post 2299681)
Thanks for your responses. And no, playing golf 40 minutes away is not why I'm moving to TV. I won't bore you with all of the reasons, but I would play golf a couple times a week if I lived here. I probably would play the courses near me most often.

My bigger concern is that new amenities will be built south as the years go by. From Dabney, by cart, that is a 15 minute trek north added to every trip. I can mitigate that by spending more and purchasing in Moultrie Creek or waiting for future villages. But I think every village I wait on will come with an incremental price increase and decrease time here.

If you are in the southern end of Dabney, by golf cart, it is about 20 minutes to Sawgrass and about 40 minutes to Brownwood. Eastport should be about 30-35 minutes.

If you visit, be sure to take a golf cart ride from Dabney and do a few test drives - Eastport, Sawgrass, Brownwood, etc. and find out what you think of it. And then ask yourself if you want to do this every time you play golf or visit a town square or entertainment square (Sawgrass). Doing it once is ok - doing it every time gets old.

However, it will take several years for Eastport to be developed. As of now, there is no commercial space open in Eastport. The good news is that they plan on building a lot of courses in Eastport - at least four executive and possibly six. I have a map showing Beautyberry, Bellaire, Honeysuckle, and Laurel Oak and I think I saw another map showing a couple more that are "planned." I think one of the executives may open this year.

If I were moving here and had a choice of Dabney and Eastport, if I could afford it, I would move to the Eastport area instead of Dabney. You will be close to a town square and lots of golf and recreation. I can't see Dabney ever being close to anything - except easy access to the Turnpike.

There are new homes in Eastport under $300,000. I would think that they would have a much better chance of appreciating in value based on location. Houses bought near Lake Sumter have really gone up in price.

This is a map of the Villages. The Villages recently bought some land on the NE side of the Turnpike just south of 470 and Dabney . If they put a golf course and commercial space in this area, it would be great. Unfortunately, they never tell us their plans which makes it difficult to know if you are buying in a good area.

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MrFitness 02-10-2024 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Dusty_Star (Post 2299708)
My question would be: do you want a brand new house? If you were willing to consider a pre-owned house, you could possibly get a patio villa in an established neighborhood where you would know where all of the amenities, shopping, entertainment, Dr's offices, etc. already exist, in some cases for close to the same price as new houses. Some houses have the bond paid off or the bond is small compared to new houses. Some houses have made enhancements you might like, & some might have landscaping you might like. Some have had upgrades done recently like new roofs or new HVAC. However, if you want new, then the newly being developed areas are your choice, but none of us will be able to predict the future.

I want new. I've always been happier with my new purchases. And you are right, the question I'm posing is probably not fair as it is all speculation. I guess I threw it out there hoping for responses that help me decide between the choices in front of me. It would also be a no brainer for me if someone had inside info that they are definitely going to build another bridge across the turnpike further south in the future.

The responses have already helped provide some clarity and a couple more things to investigate. Thanks for taking the time to respond.

MrFitness 02-10-2024 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2299723)
If you are in the southern end of Dabney, by golf cart, it is about 20 minutes to Sawgrass and about 40 minutes to Brownwood. Eastport should be about 30-35 minutes.

If you visit, be sure to take a golf cart ride from Dabney and do a few test drives - Eastport, Sawgrass, Brownwood, etc. and find out what you think of it. And then ask yourself if you want to do this every time you play golf or visit a town square or entertainment square (Sawgrass). Doing it once is ok - doing it every time gets old.

However, it will take several years for Eastport to be developed. As of now, there is no commercial space open in Eastport. The good news is that they plan on building a lot of courses in Eastport - at least four executive and possibly six. I have a map showing Beautyberry, Bellaire, Honeysuckle, and Laurel Oak and I think I saw another map showing a couple more that are "planned." I think one of the executives may open this year.

If I were moving here and had a choice of Dabney and Eastport, if I could afford it, I would move to the Eastport area instead of Dabney. You will be close to a town square and lots of golf and recreation. I can't see Dabney ever being close to anything - except easy access to the Turnpike.

There are new homes in Eastport under $300,000. I would think that they would have a much better chance of appreciating in value based on location. Houses bought near Lake Sumter have really gone up in price.

This is a map of the Villages. The Villages recently bought some land on the NE side of the Turnpike just south of 470 and Dabney . If they put a golf course and commercial space in this area, it would be great. Unfortunately, they never tell us their plans which makes it difficult to know if you are buying in a good area.

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Thanks much!

frayedends 02-10-2024 10:48 AM

Those estimates are high. We are 5 minutes south to 470 from Lake Denham by cart and 10 minutes to Sawgrass. So 15 minutes tops to Sawgrass by cart and 23 to Eastport (it takes us 17 min to go to Eastport).

I thought I heard 11 golf courses are being build below the Bexley Bridge. I could be wrong but a couple look let me it won’t take long to open.

blueash 02-10-2024 11:10 AM

Depending on your financial situation, hopefully you are not just squeaking by with your income/cost projections... I would consider my location way ahead of saving a few thousand dollars. Over the ten years you will spend in a home the 30K dollar difference works out to less than the cost of the roof you will need to replace when you sell.

Normal 02-10-2024 11:20 AM

Lake Permitting
 
If Lake County permits the altering of 470 with roundabouts, then access to the new country club idea will be realized and development might step up? For sure commercial is ready to go, but the developer has been known to change things up even after other decisions were announced. The Villages owns down to Honeycutt.

Al2014 02-10-2024 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 2299754)
Depending on your financial situation, hopefully you are not just squeaking by with your income/cost projections... I would consider my location way ahead of saving a few thousand dollars. Over the ten years you will spend in a home the 30K dollar difference works out to less than the cost of the roof you will need to replace when you sell.

Some folks prefer being off the main road. As stated 30k should not be the highest priority. A lifestyle visit for several days will help. What do you want to be close to outside the bubble, Orlando or Tampa airport, I-75 north or south, Florida turnpike, or within a cart drive of your favorite entity inside the bubble? TV is 20 miles north to south and growing south and 4-7 miles east to west with virtually no expansion. What works for you may not work for the next guy. TV has what it has. Where will it fit for you is up to your wants and needs. My preference as a renter for 10 years is between 466 and 466a.

callalily 02-10-2024 12:48 PM

I live in Lake Denham. I previously lived close to Sawgrass Grove. The area was too busy for me. I now live in a much quieter area. There are plenty of stores and restaurants on 27 which is only about a 6 minute drive. I'm only about 30 minutes to the Costco or Target in Clermont. I love the walking trails close to my house. The village I was in before had walking trails, but my house was nowhere close to them. The only thing that I'm missing close by is a Starbucks.

I looked at Moultrie Creek. The proximity to the high school takes it off my list. When the high school was on 466, the traffic was horrendous.

Altavia 02-10-2024 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MrFitness (Post 2299738)
I want new. I've always been happier with my new purchases. And you are right, the question I'm posing is probably not fair as it is all speculation. I guess I threw it out there hoping for responses that help me decide between the choices in front of me. It would also be a no brainer for me if someone had inside info that they are definitely going to build another bridge across the turnpike further south in the future.


The responses have already helped provide some clarity and a couple more things to investigate. Thanks for taking the time to respond.

It's unlikely a Turnpike bridge will happen until they start expanding the Turnpike to three lanes. Last I looked that was still on the to be planned list.

I know you want new (we're there same...), but you can't customize the builds today and the selection/quality of materials has shifted to lowest cost/builder grade. Everyone describes design now days as very disappointing.

You might want to take a look at pre-owned built these past 3-4 years South off the Turnpike for almost new, higher quality homes as a compromise.

Easy access to Brownwood, Sawgrass and Eastport.

BigDawgInLakeDenham 02-10-2024 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by callalily (Post 2299784)
I live in Lake Denham. I previously lived close to Sawgrass Grove. The area was too busy for me. I now live in a much quieter area. There are plenty of stores and restaurants on 27 which is only about a 6 minute drive. I'm only about 30 minutes to the Costco or Target in Clermont. I love the walking trails close to my house. The village I was in before had walking trails, but my house was nowhere close to them. The only thing that I'm missing close by is a Starbucks.

I looked at Moultrie Creek. The proximity to the high school takes it off my list. When the high school was on 466, the traffic was horrendous.

I second what Lily said. The trails here in Lake Denham are fabulous and you'll bust out 10 flat miles on a bike before your butt hurts...lol. I'd like to present a different take on this question. We looked all over TV...top to bottom....and met some genuinely nice folks along the way. Bid on a house on Palmer Legends but they wanted 700k and realistically it needed a 250k gut and rehab. New house started to look better. But here's a very main ingredient in our decisions....the nice folks. After a career of working in hospitals we didn't want to be the neighborhood first responders because everyone around us is older, and we wanted a neighborhood where garage parties and group activities are definitely going to happen after 2 PM. Golf addiction is not everyone's focus. There are posts that read as.... why else would anyone move to TV?. It's actually individualized and not always centered around golf. Some may say that the golf centric north is pretty to look at but it's terribly overcrowded with the most aged population in TV:22yikes:

gatorbill1 02-10-2024 03:38 PM

Look at resales between 466 and 44 before you jump. Might be more convenient for things you do and places you shop

MrChip72 02-10-2024 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MrFitness (Post 2299738)
I want new. I've always been happier with my new purchases. And you are right, the question I'm posing is probably not fair as it is all speculation. I guess I threw it out there hoping for responses that help me decide between the choices in front of me. It would also be a no brainer for me if someone had inside info that they are definitely going to build another bridge across the turnpike further south in the future.

I would go with Moultrie Creek over Dabney for sure. You're going to be much more central to other neighborhoods and closer to Magnolia Plaza and the 4 golf courses south of Warm Springs.

I would say there's basically zero chance they would add a third bridge over the turnpike. There's little benefit to the developer in doing so, especially for the cost that would be involved. The two current turnpike bridges are reasonably sufficient in providing good connections between different Villages and amenities.

Laker14 02-10-2024 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDawgInLakeDenham (Post 2299824)
I second what Lily said. The trails here in Lake Denham are fabulous and you'll bust out 10 flat miles on a bike before your butt hurts...lol. I'd like to present a different take on this question. We looked all over TV...top to bottom....and met some genuinely nice folks along the way. Bid on a house on Palmer Legends but they wanted 700k and realistically it needed a 250k gut and rehab. New house started to look better. But here's a very main ingredient in our decisions....the nice folks. After a career of working in hospitals we didn't want to be the neighborhood first responders because everyone around us is older, and we wanted a neighborhood where garage parties and group activities are definitely going to happen after 2 PM. Golf addiction is not everyone's focus. There are posts that read as.... why else would anyone move to TV?. It's actually individualized and not always centered around golf. Some may say that the golf centric north is pretty to look at but it's terribly overcrowded with the most aged population in TV:22yikes:

I'm not suggesting that everyone moves to TV with the primary objective of accessibility to golf. I think some do, and I think the way TV markets itself suggests that no matter where you are you will have it. That's misleading.
Since the OP stated a concern about driving north, I was pointing out that if golf is a main reason for coming to TV, and why he or she would be driving north, it would be wise to know and experience the travel to the courses.

Randall55 02-10-2024 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDawgInLakeDenham (Post 2299824)
I second what Lily said. The trails here in Lake Denham are fabulous and you'll bust out 10 flat miles on a bike before your butt hurts...lol. I'd like to present a different take on this question. We looked all over TV...top to bottom....and met some genuinely nice folks along the way. Bid on a house on Palmer Legends but they wanted 700k and realistically it needed a 250k gut and rehab. New house started to look better. But here's a very main ingredient in our decisions....the nice folks. After a career of working in hospitals we didn't want to be the neighborhood first responders because everyone around us is older, and we wanted a neighborhood where garage parties and group activities are definitely going to happen after 2 PM. Golf addiction is not everyone's focus. There are posts that read as.... why else would anyone move to TV?. It's actually individualized and not always centered around golf. Some may say that the golf centric north is pretty to look at but it's terribly overcrowded with the most aged population in TV:22yikes:

Quite a bit of assumptions in this post. Neighborhoods vote on when they would like to have driveway parties. The reason some are at 2:00 is because the neighbors are close knit. They golf, play cards, exercise, and more TOGETHER. 2:00 is a great time to have lunch TOGETHER after enjoying their favorite activities. Some activities go into the night but usually couples want to have a nice dinner alone and enjoy US time. US time gets easily lost if you are not careful. Evening hours are a perfect time to schedule that in.

Golf is crowded because older folks? Not even going to comment. You obviously do not golf.

You were in healthcare and are unaware that people do not die or become extremely ill in chronological order? A sixty something yr old has as much chance of suffering a heart attack or stroke as an eighty something. Some people are predisposed of dying or suffering illness at an early age. Others live into their nineties without many health issues. Unfortunately, you will witness this. Be prepared to say a final goodbye to many you meet here. None of us know WHEN this will happen. Most of the time, It catches us by surprise.

Randall55 02-10-2024 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MrFitness (Post 2299738)
I want new. I've always been happier with my new purchases. And you are right, the question I'm posing is probably not fair as it is all speculation. I guess I threw it out there hoping for responses that help me decide between the choices in front of me. It would also be a no brainer for me if someone had inside info that they are definitely going to build another bridge across the turnpike further south in the future.

The responses have already helped provide some clarity and a couple more things to investigate. Thanks for taking the time to respond.

If your gut is telling you something, listen to it! The developer has enough land to build for MANY MORE YEARS. In 6 months, new villages will become available. These may provide what you are looking for. Until then, JUST WAIT. It is obvious Dabney and Denham is not a perfect fit for you. Why settle?

asianthree 02-11-2024 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Randall55 (Post 2299916)
Quite a bit of assumptions in this post. Neighborhoods vote on when they would like to have driveway parties. The reason some are at 2:00 is because the neighbors are close knit. They golf, play cards, exercise, and more TOGETHER. 2:00 is a great time to have lunch TOGETHER after enjoying their favorite activities. Some activities go into the night but usually couples want to have a nice dinner alone and enjoy US time. US time gets easily lost if you are not careful. Evening hours are a perfect time to schedule that in.

Golf is crowded because older folks? Not even going to comment. You obviously do not golf.

You were in healthcare and are unaware that people do not die or become extremely ill in chronological order? A sixty something yr old has as much chance of suffering a heart attack or stroke as an eighty something. Some people are predisposed of dying or suffering illness at an early age. Others live into their nineties without many health issues. Unfortunately, you will witness this. Be prepared to say a final goodbye to many you meet here. None of us know WHEN this will happen. Most of the time, It catches us by surprise.

We moved from an established village where 95% were original owners. Every gathering was between 1&3pm, only once a month. Anything outside once a month was frowned upon. Golf group of 11 only played once a week between 9-10a, cause nap was important. Not that we don’t love parental units, but we stopped wanting to live with or near them at college age.

As many as 4 times a week bus with lights visited our neighborhood. So yes you get higher percentage of AED calls or AL move, which ends up house for sale. Not that dying or dead affects us like others, both of us were trauma 24/7 it was everyday event.

Younger moves in, but it’s never your house, it’s always ( “you live in _______dead person’s house, I miss them)”. We do miss the 3 WW vets, they are fascinating, but also depressing because they were so lonely.

South of 44 we are in the upper 20% of age, some in their 40-50s. Big change, in gatherings, men’s and women groups weekly, golf groups 5 days at any time with any course of 100 plus golfers.

As for parties with entertainment sometime food trucks or elaborate Bring your own dish, sometimes it’s weekly, bring a chair, drinks, and throw money in bucket for entertainment. No voting it’s a staple for neighbors to enjoy. Posted on site

Not sure how long we will stay in this house, but number 5 is always a possibility. We found for US new far outweighs one preowned

LoisR 02-11-2024 07:40 AM

Head north. Need food shopping, dept. stores, home stores, gas stations, hospitals, medical facilities, golf courses, etc.?
Then head north.

Marathon Man 02-11-2024 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by LoisR (Post 2299962)
Head north. Need food shopping, dept. stores, home stores, gas stations, hospitals, medical facilities, golf courses, etc.?
Then head north.

OP has stated that they want new construction. So where would that be in the north??

Laker14 02-11-2024 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by LoisR (Post 2299962)
Head north. Need food shopping, dept. stores, home stores, gas stations, hospitals, medical facilities, golf courses, etc.?
Then head north.

or east, to Leesburg.

I don't live in those parts, but from what I can tell, golf is the only "amenity" the OP would need to drive north for.

Am I mistaken?

Laker14 02-11-2024 08:18 AM

I don't think this has been mentioned, but if pickleball is your game, and you are looking for "younger" (less than 60-65?) competition, you'll find more of that as you head south. Also, if you are interested in leagues, like the developing DUPR "Vision for Division" league, those venues are primarily at Homestead and Franklin, so far. I suspect that is because the newer facilities aren't teaming with leagues and private groups yet, and that's where the availability is for time slots.

As an "old timer" (70) I played a couple of seasons and we kept getting moved farther south, and the competition keeps getting younger, quicker, and better. I know a few really good players who relocated southward specifically to be closer to the better, younger competition.

JanetH 02-11-2024 08:27 AM

Almost new
 
We bought a one year old house in Chitty chatty. Couldn’t tell
It wasn’t new and all the rock bed rock front and back was done along with a courtyard villa
Having 3 car garage and block fence extending across the entire rear . I would look at almost new homes too . May not work but rock work alone I have heard can be 20k
Just give certain newish areas you like a chance before discounting them
Maybe . Just a thought !

rabranca@aol.com 02-11-2024 08:27 AM

Village of Richmond
 
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Originally Posted by MrFitness (Post 2299557)
I will be visiting in 2 weeks and will likely purchase a Patio in either Dabney or Moultrie Creek. I can save about $30k in Dabney when considering bond. Maybe more when considering future costs of building materials if I wait even longer.

For those who purchased in the newer sections (Lake Denham, Dabney); does the drive north get old ? Are you worried that you will feel cut off as new development goes south on the other side of the turnpike ?

I've seen some people state they think another cart connection will be built (maybe CR470) in the future. Aside from Lake Denham and Dabney residents, who would that really benefit (so why would they bother building it) ? Is more development going to happen south of Dabney north/east of the turnpike ?


Take a look at my patio villa. I plan to sell it and I am flexible on timing. Village of Richmond, 5min cart ride to Brownwood Paddock Square. Great Location.

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margaretmattson 02-11-2024 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 2299976)
OP has stated that they want new construction. So where would that be in the north??

Northernmost Section.Some homes built between 2016-2019. New first responders rec center. Close to many golf courses, shopping, restaurants, and hospitals.They are building new courtyard villas where the demolished country club stood. Another great area to live in if you choose the North. Areas between the 66's are relatively new and offer tremendous golf opportunities as well as commercial. EVERY HOME in the North is not 20 plus years old.

MrFitness 02-11-2024 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2299984)
I don't think this has been mentioned, but if pickleball is your game, and you are looking for "younger" (less than 60-65?) competition, you'll find more of that as you head south. Also, if you are interested in leagues, like the developing DUPR "Vision for Division" league, those venues are primarily at Homestead and Franklin, so far. I suspect that is because the newer facilities aren't teaming with leagues and private groups yet, and that's where the availability is for time slots.

As an "old timer" (70) I played a couple of seasons and we kept getting moved farther south, and the competition keeps getting younger, quicker, and better. I know a few really good players who relocated southward specifically to be closer to the better, younger competition.

Pickleball is a big part of my planned activities. I'm 59, a decent level, but I play for fun and to meet people. I prefer the "show up and play when you want" over league play. I'm sure I'll be able to find what I want down there. I had no problem during my visit.

mwpoet 02-11-2024 08:50 AM

Lots of driving
 
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Originally Posted by MrFitness (Post 2299632)
Thanks. That is good to hear.

I’ve lived everywhere in the Villages and I think Fenney is too far from everything. I’ve been driving 300 miles a week. I am moving to Duval, closer to shopping, friends, pools, multiple golf courses. I can’t wait!!

Randall55 02-11-2024 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mwpoet (Post 2300001)
I’ve lived everywhere in the Villages and I think Fenney is too far from everything. I’ve been driving 300 miles a week. I am moving to Duval, closer to shopping, friends, pools, multiple golf courses. I can’t wait!!

I second that! We lived in Fenney, then Hawkins. Couldn't wait to return to the north near Lopez. I got tired of spending most of my day driving! Now, everything I need is minutes away.


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