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jebartle 02-16-2024 01:04 PM

Suggestions please, neighbor needs help
 
What resources will help 84 yr old man, with dog, After death of significant other dies, family wants him out by March, that will house him and dog for $500 month,

retiredguy123 02-16-2024 01:20 PM

If he is eligible for Medicaid, he may be able to move into a nursing home. But, I don't know about the dog.

jebartle 02-16-2024 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2301741)
If he is eligible for Medicaid, he may be able to move into a nursing home. But, I don't know about the dog.

He cannot live without his loving dog, so sad

Taltarzac725 02-16-2024 02:05 PM

What neighborhood in the Villages? Or, does it matter? You might have to rely on work-of-mouth to find the man a room in some occupied house here in the Villages. I will bet some Villagers could use the $500 a month and have a spare room. What kind of dog and how friendly and does the man have any special needs? And how friendly is the man?

retiredguy123 02-16-2024 02:24 PM

I doubt that you will find anything for $500 per month. The minimum SSI income is more than $900 per month.

Taltarzac725 02-16-2024 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2301750)
I doubt that you will find anything for $500 per month. The minimum SSI income is more than $900 per month.

I was thinking more in the line of a Villages couple who could use the money and had a room empty,

Talk of the Villages might be a wonderful resource for getting the word out. So long as there are not any warning signs about the man or the dog.

For instance, I have home health care people coming in and always try to stick around for the first shift of any new person to see what they are like. As life is often like a box of chocolates so can be people you let into your house.

Jayhawk 02-16-2024 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 2301738)
What resources will help 84 yr old man, with dog, After death of significant other dies, family wants him out by March, that will house him and dog for $500 month,

His own family wants him gone?

Something is missing in the story.

Taltarzac725 02-16-2024 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 2301756)
His own family wants him gone?

Something is missing in the story.

Probably why I put in a reference to Forrest Gump - Wikipedia and the box of chocolates.

Jayhawk 02-16-2024 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2301757)
Probably why I put in a reference to Forrest Gump - Wikipedia and the box of chocolates.

Sorry, I don't get the connection.

dewilson58 02-16-2024 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 2301756)
His own family wants him gone?

Something is missing in the story.

:beer3:

Family owns house??
Family says he can't live alone??
Family lives next door??

:shrug:

retiredguy123 02-16-2024 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2301752)
I was thinking more in the line of a Villages couple who could use the money and had a room empty,

Talk of the Villages might be a wonderful resource for getting the word out. So long as there are not any warning signs about the man or the dog.

For instance, I have home health care people coming in and always try to stick around for the first shift of any new person to see what they are like. As life is often like a box of chocolates so can be people you let into your house.

Have you checked the room rates on Airbnb.com for The Villages? $16 per day is not even close.

retiredguy123 02-16-2024 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2301760)
:beer3:

Family owns house??
Family says he can't live alone??
Family lives next door??

:shrug:

A significant other may not be considered part of the man's family.

LuvNH 02-16-2024 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 2301756)
His own family wants him gone?

Something is missing in the story.

Agree, something is missing from this story. If he is really being put out on the street or made to leave the house (if it is his) he needs an elder law attorney.

Taltarzac725 02-16-2024 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 2301759)
Sorry, I don't get the connection.

You never know what kind of chocolate you are going to get in a mixed box of chocolates unless it is labelled.

Taltarzac725 02-16-2024 03:04 PM

Going to a lawyer usually ups the tension in the relationship.

We should get more information.

This might just be a kind man and a gentle dog that need a place to stay. I would think that Talk of the Villages would be a good resource for that.

BrianL99 02-16-2024 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 2301756)
His own family wants him gone?

Something is missing in the story.

The original post is confusing, but I think they meant he's living with his significant other, whose family wants him out.

retiredguy123 02-16-2024 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2301771)
The original post is confusing, but I think they meant he's living with his significant other, whose family wants him out.

I agree. And, the family probably wants to sell the house, which the man cannot afford to buy. But, $500 per month is not nearly enough money to be seeking housing.

margaretmattson 02-16-2024 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 2301738)
What resources will help 84 yr old man, with dog, After death of significant other dies, family wants him out by March, that will house him and dog for $500 month,

Florida has homestead rules. A person cannot be thrown out of their home. Read the law and see if it applies.

Taltarzac725 02-16-2024 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2301771)
The original post is confusing, but I think they meant he's living with his significant other, whose family wants him out.

That sounds right. In other words, family may be of the significant other who owns Villages' home and the man is a live-in boyfriend or something like that with few if any legal rights. And he has a pooch.

retiredguy123 02-16-2024 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by margaretmattson (Post 2301776)
Florida has homestead rules. A person cannot be thrown out of their home. Read the law and see if it applies.

I wouldn't need to read the rules. If the man doesn't own the house and cannot afford to pay rent, then he should move out. Otherwise, he is a squatter, for which we need stronger rules, not weaker ones.

margaretmattson 02-16-2024 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2301781)
I wouldn't need to read the rules. If the man doesn't own the house and cannot afford to pay rent, then he should move out. Otherwise, he is a squatter, for which we need stronger rules, not weaker ones.

My post was for the OP. I have no idea of his situation, married or not. I simply recommended that he read the homestead rules and see if it applies to him.

retiredguy123 02-16-2024 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by margaretmattson (Post 2301783)
My post was for the OP. I have no idea of his situation, married or not. I simply recommended that he read the homestead rules and see if it applies to him.

Sorry, but I assume he is not married because the OP said his "significant other" died. My post was for squatters who look for legal loopholes to occupy property that they don't own.

jebartle 02-16-2024 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 2301756)
His own family wants him gone?

Something is missing in the story.

Let me fill in the pieces, his significant others family are executors and want him out.

His dog is a wonderful labra-doodle that loves everyone and other pets.

$500 is for rent only, remainder of ss will allow him to live.

jebartle 02-16-2024 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2301777)
That sounds right. In other words, family may be of the significant other who owns Villages' home and the man is a live-in boyfriend or something like that with few if any legal rights. And he has a pooch.

They lived together 20 plus years, so sad.

jebartle 02-16-2024 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 2301756)
His own family wants him gone?

Something is missing in the story.

Significant others family wants him out to sell house, they are executors

Taltarzac725 02-16-2024 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 2301806)
Significant others family wants him out to sell house, they are executors

I hope you get some nice private messages from people who might be able to help out. I have found the Villagers I have actually met for the most part good people. Some bad ones but they usually give some hints as to their true character.

retiredguy123 02-16-2024 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 2301803)
They lived together 20 plus years, so sad.

I had a friend who allowed a woman to move into his house. She took care of him for years while he was sick. When he died, his son came to The Villages and threw her out immediately and sold the house. He wouldn't even give her a friendship ring that she had given to him. You need to put something in writing.

Topspinmo 02-16-2024 05:36 PM

I take it florida has no common law marriage rules?

Keefelane66 02-16-2024 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 2301738)
What resources will help 84 yr old man, with dog, After death of significant other dies, family wants him out by March, that will house him and dog for $500 month,

I'm glad I have an open invitation from my kids if I ever need help.

thelegges 02-16-2024 05:48 PM

We looked at at home for sale that was same situation. She dies, daughter gave male partner of 8 years 30 days to move once estate was settled. He had a sister that lived in TV, but apparently that wasn’t on the table.

So happens more than you think.

BrianL99 02-16-2024 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 2301802)
Let me fill in the pieces, his significant others family are executors and want him out.

His dog is a wonderful labra-doodle that loves everyone and other pets.

$500 is for rent only, remainder of ss will allow him to live.


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Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 2301806)
Significant others family wants him out to sell house, they are executors


I guess if you find a Sugar Momma and are gambling that she'll out-live you, it's possible to get caught on the wrong side of the curve.

just an anecdotal observation, but if they lived together for 20 years and the recently deceased didn't do anything (like give him a life estate in the home), she wasn't that concerned about what would happen when she died.

LuvNH 02-16-2024 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2301809)
I had a friend who allowed a woman to move into his house. She took care of him for years while he was sick. When he died, his son came to The Villages and threw her out immediately and sold the house. He wouldn't even give her a friendship ring that she had given to him. You need to put something in writing.

When I read your post I really thought you were talking about a friend of mine. She was a retired nurse, he was well fixed and asked her to move in with him as housekeeper/nurse and driver. She did. When he died she was leaving his funeral and found the police waiting to arrest her. His son had called the police and told them she had stolen from him. She was not even allowed to re-enter the house and get her belongings. The son threw her "stuff" out onto the front yard for her to pick up. She nursed the guy 5 years! So the kids got a live in nurse and housekeeper for zip.

Yes, I know, one born every minute.

retiredguy123 02-16-2024 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by LuvNH (Post 2301822)
When I read your post I really thought you were talking about a friend of mine. She was a retired nurse, he was well fixed and asked her to move in with him as housekeeper/nurse and driver. She did. When he died she was leaving his funeral and found the police waiting to arrest her. His son had called the police and told them she had stolen from him. She was not even allowed to re-enter the house and get her belongings. The son threw her "stuff" out onto the front yard for her to pick up. She nursed the guy 5 years! So the kids got a live in nurse and housekeeper for zip.

Yes, I know, one born every minute.

I don't think it was your friend. But, I cannot understand why some people seem to think that their children are entitled to an inheritance even if they ignore their parents and treat them badly. I don't have children, but if I did, they would need to earn an inheritance, or I would leave my money to those who helped me in my later years.

Rainger99 02-16-2024 06:55 PM

People in that situation should have a discussion so that the significant other is provided for if the owner dies first.

Taltarzac725 02-16-2024 07:12 PM

I tried to help a woman whose live-in boyfriend would not move out. Eventually he became abusive but she had to go through hell and back to get him out of there before that. It seemed he had some rights. And he might have been paying her rent as well. Or part of it.

And another woman had to move out because her boyfriend owned the house where they both had been living, They split up and she had to get out.

Both of these situations were in or near the Villages.

Bjeanj 02-16-2024 08:36 PM

Happened to man a few houses down from us a few years ago. He suddenly died, and his SO was unceremoniously kicked out of the house by his kids. She was so distraught. Nothing to be done.

Taltarzac725 02-16-2024 09:14 PM

If a reverse mortgage is involved this not much you can do if you are a surviving kid, significant other, etc. But I am not a Family Law nor Estate Attorney nor licensed in Florida.

Neighbor had to get out when both her parents had died. They had had a reverse mortgage. And the daughter did not have enough money nor the desire to buy the house.

She found a place not too far from the Villages though.

Papa_lecki 02-16-2024 09:16 PM

Florida does not recognize common-law marriages that have been established within the state after January 1, 1968. This means that if a couple meets the general conditions for a common-law marriage but has never been ceremonially married, Florida law does not consider them legally married.

Randall55 02-16-2024 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2301826)
People in that situation should have a discussion so that the significant other is provided for if the owner dies first.

Sad. All they had to do was change the title on the home. Both could be listed as single. Fees for doing this are small. No matter how much money the man has or doesn't has, he paid for a portion of the bills. Twenty years ago, homes were much cheaper. He could have been paying 50% of the bills. After 10 or 15 yrs together, they should have made better decisions.

Number 10 GI 02-16-2024 10:29 PM

Beware of letting someone rent a room in your home. In many states you can't evict the person if they fail to pay their rent without a lot of legal action and even then, it can take months to get them out. I'm not sure about Florida so it would behoove a person to check the local and state laws.


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