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KimberlyOz 03-15-2024 03:56 PM

Dabney and 470, is noise an issue? Maybe Moultrie Creek instead...
 
Looking into the patio villas that back up to 470 in Dabney. There is a fence, does that help with road noise? We are relocating from the Boston area and the front of our home sits about 30 feet off of a busy road. No fence. So I'm not familiar with how the fence blocks the sound, or if it doesn't.

I do like the idea of the fences in Dabney, I think it adds some nice privacy.

The other option is the new villa's that are available in Moultrie Creek. Decisions decisions ;)

Thank you!
Kimberly

Shipping up to Boston 03-15-2024 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KimberlyOz (Post 2311541)
Looking into the patio villas that back up to 470 in Dabney. There is a fence, does that help with road noise? We are relocating from the Boston area and the front of our home sits about 30 feet off of a busy road. No fence. So I'm not familiar with how the fence blocks the sound, or if it doesn't.

I do like the idea of the fences in Dabney, I think it adds some nice privacy.

The other option is the new villa's that are available in Moultrie Creek. Decisions decisions ;)

Thank you!
Kimberly

Exactly, if not for a little noise, definitely for privacy

margaretmattson 03-15-2024 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KimberlyOz (Post 2311541)
Looking into the patio villas that back up to 470 in Dabney. There is a fence, does that help with road noise? We are relocating from the Boston area and the front of our home sits about 30 feet off of a busy road. No fence. So I'm not familiar with how the fence blocks the sound, or if it doesn't.

I do like the idea of the fences in Dabney, I think it adds some nice privacy.

The other option is the new villa's that are available in Moultrie Creek. Decisions decisions ;)

Thank you!
Kimberly

Moultrie Creek is by the new high school. You will hear stadium noise and daily band practice. Dabney was quiet each time I visited. If you can wait, more villages will be built. Will not take long because the roads are complete. I heard there will be no fences separating villas and designer homes in Moultrie Creek. Kissing lanais can be tricky. Sometimes, you get loud neighbors or pets.

Decadeofdave 03-15-2024 04:29 PM

You have to visit to make an informed decision. Possibly multi-visits. I would not buy in TV unless you stay here for at least a month.

frayedends 03-15-2024 05:06 PM

I can't answer on Dabney with a fence. I live in Lake Denham. It seems the turnpike noise is much worse. However, 470 at Dabney to the bridge over the turnpike has some of the worst paving I've seen. There is a plan to change 470 in this area to 4 lanes. That will result in nicely paved new roads so I'm hoping that the noise is lowered.

I can tell you that the weather makes an incredible difference on turnpike/470 noise. If it's cool and clear it's very loud at my house in Lake Denham.

asianthree 03-15-2024 05:13 PM

We live four streets from the turnpike with a wall, then private property. In the house backyard or pool, you have no idea what is beyond.

Depending on the weather we have humming noise which most don’t notice.

milonrex 03-15-2024 06:39 PM

We toured some of the Veranda Homes in Dabney. They we next to 470 and noise was an issue even with fencing and this was at midday.
We definitely want a Veranda home. Hoping they will open some lots for those in Shady Brook. We still have to sell our home so we’re hoping to purchase this fall.

asianthree 03-15-2024 06:45 PM

Our oldest just looked at verandas in Dabney backing up to 470, they found no issues with road noise. Their last house was just off 6 lane highway in St Paul. So 470 was quite for them. They request front bedroom hopefully have some humming turnpike noise to sleep

Altavia 03-15-2024 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KimberlyOz (Post 2311541)
Looking into the patio villas that back up to 470 in Dabney. There is a fence, does that help with road noise? We are relocating from the Boston area and the front of our home sits about 30 feet off of a busy road. No fence. So I'm not familiar with how the fence blocks the sound, or if it doesn't.

I do like the idea of the fences in Dabney, I think it adds some nice privacy.

The other option is the new villa's that are available in Moultrie Creek. Decisions decisions ;)

Thank you!
Kimberly

Lived in a similar villa with a wall adjacent to 466A.

The noise from billy bob pickups with cut out mufflers woke us at 5am most mornings. You couldn't have a conversation on the phone sitting on the Lanai.

470 will be widened to 4 lanes.

Rwirish 03-16-2024 04:56 AM

You should visit each season probably over 2 years before making any rush decision. Manu locations south of 44 are less then ideal.

skippy05 03-16-2024 05:08 AM

Do not buy within 1 mile of those roads. The noise varies wildly depending on temperature, humidity, wind direction. A far better option is a resale in northern portions and for many many reasons besides noise.

huge-pigeons 03-16-2024 05:26 AM

The villages is so big, why would anybody want to build next to a hwy? Fence or no fence, you will hear the traffic. If you think making 470 into 4 lanes will make it quieter, there is a reason why they need 4 lanes, and that’s because of more traffic coming, not less.
Also, this area is so far away from any activities. If you want to take your golf cart to golf anywhere near the 466a area, or go to Brownwood or lake sumter square in a golf cart, you will need to leave the day before. Plus the added cost of Leesburg taxes/bond, why??

rustyp 03-16-2024 05:43 AM

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Robbb 03-16-2024 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by KimberlyOz (Post 2311541)
Looking into the patio villas that back up to 470 in Dabney. There is a fence, does that help with road noise? We are relocating from the Boston area and the front of our home sits about 30 feet off of a busy road. No fence. So I'm not familiar with how the fence blocks the sound, or if it doesn't.

I do like the idea of the fences in Dabney, I think it adds some nice privacy.

The other option is the new villa's that are available in Moultrie Creek. Decisions decisions ;)

Thank you!
Kimberly

IMHO, stay away from Dabney, I just rented there. It is just to far away from anything. It is closer to the Costco in Clearmont than in is to Lake Sumter.

marsil 03-16-2024 06:11 AM

The old saying "there's an a** for every seat!"

asianthree 03-16-2024 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Rwirish (Post 2311678)
You should visit each season probably over 2 years before making any rush decision. Manu locations south of 44 are less then ideal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by skippy05 (Post 2311682)
Do not buy within 1 mile of those roads. The noise varies wildly depending on temperature, humidity, wind direction. A far better option is a resale in northern portions and for many many reasons besides noise.

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Originally Posted by huge-pigeons (Post 2311685)
The villages is so big, why would anybody want to build next to a hwy? Fence or no fence, you will hear the traffic. If you think making 470 into 4 lanes will make it quieter, there is a reason why they need 4 lanes, and that’s because of more traffic coming, not less.
Also, this area is so far away from any activities. If you want to take your golf cart to golf anywhere near the 466a area, or go to Brownwood or lake sumter square in a golf cart, you will need to leave the day before. Plus the added cost of Leesburg taxes/bond, why??

Those with no experience of living south of 44 shouldn’t give advice of things they can only guess.

One has to remember you are happy with your home, the bond that came with it, as did your taxes, but can’t understand why thousands are happy with whatever they’re home back up to.

Many have left the SS, and LSL areas you speak of to live south of 44.
After 3 houses starting in 2007, in the North we are finally very happy living south of 44 with less traffic, great walking paths, less retail, quick access to turnpike, parks and Shopping without it in our backyard. Bonus a much younger generation of friends and neighbors.

About 60% of residents in our village left their homes north of 44 to move south.

nn0wheremann 03-16-2024 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by KimberlyOz (Post 2311541)
Looking into the patio villas that back up to 470 in Dabney. There is a fence, does that help with road noise? We are relocating from the Boston area and the front of our home sits about 30 feet off of a busy road. No fence. So I'm not familiar with how the fence blocks the sound, or if it doesn't.

I do like the idea of the fences in Dabney, I think it adds some nice privacy.

The other option is the new villa's that are available in Moultrie Creek. Decisions decisions ;)

Thank you!
Kimberly

If you want to live in a treeless reclaimed swamp, go for it. If you like peace and quiet and a pleasant experience look up north of CR 466. Little or no infrastructure bond, and in Marion County a stable tax situation.

GizmoWhiskers 03-16-2024 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2311543)
Exactly, if not for a little noise, definitely for privacy

If one stands in front of the house they will find that the noise from the road actually "bounces" inward to the houses across the street and in further inward. The fence is a very good thing for direct relation to the road.

DeLuna has villas up against the turnpike. I wanted to check that out one day and found that to happen. Across the street I heard it. Further in I could hear the turnpike. If you are used to busy road no problem.

BostonTom 03-16-2024 06:41 AM

I would really wait few months they are building courtyard villas across the street from Richmond right outside of Brownwood Square. Great location PM me we recently purchased in that area. We are from Boston area

GizmoWhiskers 03-16-2024 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Rwirish (Post 2311678)
You should visit each season probably over 2 years before making any rush decision. Manu locations south of 44 are less then ideal.

Funny thing on this idea is one can't keep it in a bottle.

In two years one will have the same type of question on a new, location but the same cyclical answer would exist. Renting for 6 months maybe but two years seems kinda long.

Two years from now T V will be almost at Center Hill I believe I read. I agree south of St Catherine and Middleton areas is not the Villages of yeaster years.

They sell Eastport as the new center... which is changing when they add south of the old 470 they have another center being "dreamed" as the future vision.

Gold Wing Nut says every 5 miles they put a square but those squares get smaller and smaller. There is no shopping larger retails planned anytime soon so Clermont, Leesburg or heck Westly Chapel and Tampa for those needs as they spread south of Middleton over the next 15 years or so.

Close to Brownwood is where I would stay. I moved north of 44 for retail shopping and The Villages charm via Golf Cart.

BostonTom 03-16-2024 06:47 AM

PM me were are from Boston area I will offer you some really good advice.

kimgarwel12@gmail.com 03-16-2024 06:49 AM

We have a "privacy fence" 8 feet from the side of our house. It gives us privacy in that we can't look directly into the neighbor's lanai and vice versa. However, it does nothing for screening noise. From the neighbors fighting to loud pool parties to dogs barking, we hear it all! On some nights, we can hear turnpike traffic and we're at least a mile, if not further, from that roadway. With as close as the homes are in TV, you're not going to avoid noise pollution.

Billy1 03-16-2024 06:51 AM

It's hard to get a tee time in the villages.

Heytubes 03-16-2024 07:28 AM

I bought within sight of 466 and haven’t any issues with noise, just having to blow leaves off my patio because of all the large beautiful older trees. Plus, no bond and close to many shopping opportunities. Welcome to the bubble.

samquiros 03-16-2024 07:33 AM

I live in DeLuna about a block from the turnpike. We’ve been here a year. I can tell you that yes, you can hear noise from the turnpike. But you have to hear it for yourself to decide if it bothers you or not. Don’t take other people’s word for it.

Inside the house you hear absolutely nothing. When I am in the lanai, I can hear a faint background noise, like a “swoosh” of the cars passing, very faint. It does not bother me. It may bother you. It may not. Some people find the noise unacceptable. That is up to them to decide that. I find it quite acceptable and not bothersome at all.

We are looking to move to Moultrie Creek. We tried one of the first Verandas but were unable to get it. Let me tell you, the noise from the school is a lot worse than the turnpike. Again, inside the house you hear nothing. But in the lanai you WILL hear the cheering, the announcer, and the band. Those sounds did not bother us. They may bother you. To each their own.

defrey12 03-16-2024 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by nn0wheremann (Post 2311720)
If you want to live in a treeless reclaimed swamp, go for it. If you like peace and quiet and a pleasant experience look up north of CR 466. Little or no infrastructure bond, and in Marion County a stable tax situation.

Yes, and all of your VERY elderly neighbors won’t leave you alone and the traffic is HORRIBLE! It’s quiet and vibrant in the South.

defrey12 03-16-2024 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BostonTom (Post 2311731)
I would really wait few months they are building courtyard villas across the street from Richmond right outside of Brownwood Square. Great location PM me we recently purchased in that area. We are from Boston area

Are you sure about that? Typically, “the walls” are the first things to go up and there are no walls yet.

Bbrant 03-16-2024 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by KimberlyOz (Post 2311541)
Looking into the patio villas that back up to 470 in Dabney. There is a fence, does that help with road noise? We are relocating from the Boston area and the front of our home sits about 30 feet off of a busy road. No fence. So I'm not familiar with how the fence blocks the sound, or if it doesn't.

I do like the idea of the fences in Dabney, I think it adds some nice privacy.

The other option is the new villa's that are available in Moultrie Creek. Decisions decisions ;)

Thank you!
Kimberly

I cannot answer your question but am from southeast Ma, look me up when you come

BlueStarAirlines 03-16-2024 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by huge-pigeons (Post 2311685)
The villages is so big, why would anybody want to build next to a hwy? Fence or no fence, you will hear the traffic. If you think making 470 into 4 lanes will make it quieter, there is a reason why they need 4 lanes, and that’s because of more traffic coming, not less.
Also, this area is so far away from any activities. If you want to take your golf cart to golf anywhere near the 466a area, or go to Brownwood or lake sumter square in a golf cart, you will need to leave the day before.

Many in the north make comments like this about the turnpike, but fail to acknowledge the noise on Morse, Meggison, and 44. Having lived both in the north and south, I'll take the occasional hum of the turnpike verses the constant road noise from cars and golf carts on Morse\Meggison.

The OP is right, it is far from Brownwood....but not far from Middleton. Many in the north haven't kept up with the building in the south and how close things will be.

Marathon Man 03-16-2024 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by nn0wheremann (Post 2311720)
If you want to live in a treeless reclaimed swamp, go for it. If you like peace and quiet and a pleasant experience look up north of CR 466. Little or no infrastructure bond, and in Marion County a stable tax situation.

And if you want an exciting active life, look south. We moved down here four years ago from the northern area and have not regretted it a single second.

maistocars 03-16-2024 08:01 AM

If choosing between the two, my choice is Moultrie Creek. Much less noisy and will way closer to Eastport.

jrref 03-16-2024 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by KimberlyOz (Post 2311541)
Looking into the patio villas that back up to 470 in Dabney. There is a fence, does that help with road noise? We are relocating from the Boston area and the front of our home sits about 30 feet off of a busy road. No fence. So I'm not familiar with how the fence blocks the sound, or if it doesn't.

I do like the idea of the fences in Dabney, I think it adds some nice privacy.

The other option is the new villa's that are available in Moultrie Creek. Decisions decisions ;)

Thank you!
Kimberly

Just remember, in addition to noise, when you live near the turnpike or any major road, especially with trucks going by every day, you are breathing in all that pollution 24x7, 365. No wall or landscaping is going to stop that.

MikeN 03-16-2024 08:09 AM

The villages is not quiet. Simple as that. We are in the Newell Loop area. While the fence helps and gives privacy a lot depends on wind direction. Spend some time where you are thinking about. Good luck. Also from Boston here

Shipping up to Boston 03-16-2024 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 2311777)
And if you want an exciting active life, look south. We moved down here four years ago from the northern area and have not regretted it a single second.

So it’s true....the war between the North and the South marches on! ;)

Pat2015 03-16-2024 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueStarAirlines (Post 2311776)
Many in the north make comments like this about the turnpike, but fail to acknowledge the noise on Morse, Meggison, and 44. Having lived both in the north and south, I'll take the occasional hum of the turnpike verses the constant road noise from cars and golf carts on Morse\Meggison.

The OP is right, it is far from Brownwood....but not far from Middleton. Many in the north haven't kept up with the building in the south and how close things will be.

It won’t be far from Eastport and there’s 4 executive and 3 championship golf courses going into the area. No need to go to Brownwood with all that the Eastport area will have to offer. Stores will come but in the meantime it’s a short ride on 470 to 27 where Publix, Winn Dixie, and every store that you need is right there. Good luck to the OP in your search for a brand new house here in TV.

Pat2015 03-16-2024 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by nn0wheremann (Post 2311720)
If you want to live in a treeless reclaimed swamp, go for it. If you like peace and quiet and a pleasant experience look up north of CR 466. Little or no infrastructure bond, and in Marion County a stable tax situation.

I’m thinking that the OP doesn’t want a 15 or 20+ year old house and wants to start out in a new house with all new neighbors in an up and coming area close to Eastport. I think that’s a great place to buy for newbies and that’s where I’d be looking if I was just coming here, as I did some years ago when Brownwood was still under construction. New house, new square, and lots of younger retirees looking to make friends and start their new lives here in TV. Eastport is going to be a great addition to TV and will be a fun place to be.

Stu from NYC 03-16-2024 08:41 AM

I would and we did rent for a month before deciding we wanted to move here.

If close to a source of noise spend a lot of time there to decide what it is like.

In addition you will be a long way from shopping and other amenities for quite some time as building goes on and stores come in. Are you ok with that? Brownwood area is 10 years old and stores are still coming.

TerryCamlin 03-16-2024 08:42 AM

Noise is definitely an issue with a lot of new homes south of 44. I still do not realize the lure of the new homes vs resales? I have been in the Villages 4 years full time. I think north of 44 has so much more to offer as far as amenities pools, Rec Centers etc., I have 5 pools, 2 rec centers and 2 Championship Golf Course within the 2 miles of my street. There are a lot of investment properties in Villa's and Courtyards. A lot allow pets and children. Being closer to Disney and being next to a rental where the people change out weekly would be my major concern down near Dabney or Denham and the newest which I do not know the names of. I am also a landlord which does not allow either but most do because the new properties do not attract the older crowd who comes here in the winter months they usually get the newbies who have no idea they just rented in an area where they will have to travel to get to major squares, shopping etc., I would strongly suggest you do not buy over the internet. You need to come here for at least a week to see for yourself. Be aware also of the Federal prisons, quarry that the Realtors will never tell you about. The home next to me is for sale in Gilchrist. The potential buyer came to talk to me specifically to see if the area was owners vs renters. We are all owners. Makes a big difference trust me on this one. Plus we have landscaping and the homes are way more attractive in my opinion. There are also a lot of homes less than a year old for sale down south from people who did buy in without doing their homework that you can pick up cheap. There is no fire sale there are plenty of homes to pick up here so do your homework. Also be aware that a lot of our golf courses are in horrible shape if you are coming for that. Too many people and the courses have not kept up.

vinnytalk 03-16-2024 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by KimberlyOz (Post 2311541)
Looking into the patio villas that back up to 470 in Dabney. There is a fence, does that help with road noise? We are relocating from the Boston area and the front of our home sits about 30 feet off of a busy road. No fence. So I'm not familiar with how the fence blocks the sound, or if it doesn't.

I do like the idea of the fences in Dabney, I think it adds some nice privacy.

The other option is the new villa's that are available in Moultrie Creek. Decisions decisions ;)

Thank you!
Kimberly

You should sit there at different times to see for yourself.

Karmanng 03-16-2024 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KimberlyOz (Post 2311541)
Looking into the patio villas that back up to 470 in Dabney. There is a fence, does that help with road noise? We are relocating from the Boston area and the front of our home sits about 30 feet off of a busy road. No fence. So I'm not familiar with how the fence blocks the sound, or if it doesn't.

I do like the idea of the fences in Dabney, I think it adds some nice privacy.

The other option is the new villa's that are available in Moultrie Creek. Decisions decisions ;)

Thank you!
Kimberly

Personally I would not buy a new home there.......I would wait and buy pre owned in the area after its built up........I am in the middle right now and its a great location.........AND Im close to eastport and brownwood


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