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Coop63 03-16-2024 09:20 AM

Kidnapping story on Villages news
 
Anyone know how this ended?

A kidnapping suspect who barricaded himself in a home in The Villages on Friday had been arrested in 2023 after jealous harassment of a woman in the Village of Chatham.

James Savage, 54, was the subject of a manhunt on Friday after allegedly forcing a woman into a Mercedes in the Village of Monarch Grove. The woman was later found safe and Savage barricaded himself in a home on Belhaven Loop in the Village of Chatham, prompting a lengthy standoff with Marion County sheriff’s deputies.

Savage had been arrested last year after harassing a woman who lives on Belhaven Loop.

More on Villages news website

UsuallyLurking 03-16-2024 09:24 AM

As of earlier this morning (around 9), it hadn't ended. Legacy Lane was still being blocked by Marion County sheriffs around this site of the barricaded house.

Two Bills 03-16-2024 11:53 AM

""After nearly 24 hours of negotiations, a 54-year-old man accused of attacking and kidnapping a woman from a home in The Villages has “peacefully” surrendered to law enforcement authorities""

Source. The unmentionable site.

fdpaq0580 03-16-2024 12:08 PM

Sounds like someone needs a hug ----- or a lobotomy.
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Number 10 GI 03-16-2024 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2311915)
Sounds like someone needs a hug ----- or a lobotomy.
🤕

A lobotomy would guarantee no more problems.

margaretmattson 03-16-2024 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 2311920)
A lobotomy would guarantee no more problems.

Lobotomy? How about simple lessons on how to treat people you love? I saw the footage at the time of the kidnapping and instantly gave my wonderful hubby a hug. We then had a discussion regarding the age people should know better. I pray the woman is able to put this behind her and move on.

Dusty_Star 03-16-2024 01:19 PM

Pleasant fellow. As the video warns: explicit language

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Dusty_Star 03-16-2024 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dusty_Star (Post 2311944)
Pleasant fellow. As the video warns: explicit language

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Ignore the 'logon to Facebook' message, it will give you a chance to X out of logon & see the video.

Good reason to get security cameras

kcrazorbackfan 03-16-2024 01:28 PM

And it took MCSO 24hrs of peacefully negotiating to get the perp to surrender; our negotiations when I was a State Trooper rarely lasted 2 hrs; i guess it’s a newer, kinder way. 👎

Shipping up to Boston 03-16-2024 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2311915)
Sounds like someone needs a hug ----- or a lobotomy.
🤕

Thank you Mr. McMurphy

JMintzer 03-16-2024 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by margaretmattson (Post 2311940)
Lobotomy? How about simple lessons on how to treat people you love? I saw the footage at the time of the kidnapping and instantly gave my wonderful hubby a hug. We then had a discussion regarding the age people should know better. I pray the woman is able to put this behind her and move on.

Maybe it's me, but the "gentleman" didn't seem to be in the mood for a "teachable moment"...

He's lucky none of the many former LEOs in TV saw what happened. He may have died from "acute lead poisoning"...

Dusty_Star 03-16-2024 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2311980)
Maybe it's me, but the "gentleman" didn't seem to be in the mood for a "teachable moment"...

He's lucky none of the many former LEOs in TV saw what happened. He may have died from "acute lead poisoning"...

He may be lucky, but as it seems he is a repeat abuser, I wouldn't say the women who date him (now & in the future) are so lucky.

Shipping up to Boston 03-16-2024 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dusty_Star (Post 2311983)
He may be lucky, but as it seems he is a repeat abuser, I wouldn't say the women who date him (now & in the future) are so lucky.

Exactly
Just shows that even in ‘Florida’s Friendliest Hometown’....we’re not immune to the underbelly of society!

Dusty_Star 03-16-2024 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2311986)
Exactly
Just shows that even in ‘Florida’s Friendliest Hometown’....we’re not immune to the underbelly of society!

Or in some cases (probably a tiny number), we are targeted by the underbelly, relatively well to do widows abound.

Shipping up to Boston 03-16-2024 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dusty_Star (Post 2311988)
Or in some cases (probably a tiny number), we are targeted by the underbelly, relatively well to do widows abound.

I thought ‘Pension Hunters’ was a reality show about women. I stand corrected! ;)

shut the front door 03-16-2024 03:56 PM

I don't know who her "friend" is, but she was absolutely useless. She had every opportunity to call 911 or kick him in the jewels. I'm glad I've got friends who would have my back.

Randall55 03-16-2024 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by shut the front door (Post 2311995)
I don't know who her "friend" is, but she was absolutely useless. She had every opportunity to call 911 or kick him in the jewels. I'm glad I've got friends who would have my back.

The only thing you can do in that scenario is call 911. Assault someone and you go to jail. Injure them, you could be sued. The friend should have screamed her head off. I also noticed the next door neighbors' lights did not come on. Maybe, not at home. If I were home, my lights would go on to give the security cameras a better chance of capturing the moment. Without hesitation, I would call 911.

GoRedSox! 03-16-2024 04:24 PM

I am a tolerant individual, but not for a man who physically abuses a woman like this.

I note that he was Mr. Tough while roughing up a woman, not so much when dealing with the Sheriff. I hope Justice will be meted out.

Dusty_Star 03-16-2024 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GoRedSox! (Post 2312002)
I am a tolerant individual, but not for a man who physically abuses a woman like this.

I note that he was Mr. Tough while roughing up a woman, not so much when dealing with the Sheriff. I hope Justice will be meted out.

Typical coward. Victimizes those less powerful, subservient when dealing with greater power.

Dusty_Star 03-16-2024 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by shut the front door (Post 2311995)
I don't know who her "friend" is, but she was absolutely useless. She had every opportunity to call 911 or kick him in the jewels. I'm glad I've got friends who would have my back.

1, it happened very fast
2, had she tried to call 911, she would have probably been punched or worse.
3, it was a hard choice, to call 911, she would have had to run away first, to protect herself, if she leaves then she isn't witnessing, & worse might happen.
4, engaging like a kick as you say, was never on the table.

Stu from NYC 03-16-2024 04:57 PM

Since it had a happy ending can we expect to read about it in the happy paper?

Shipping up to Boston 03-16-2024 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dusty_Star (Post 2312006)
1, it happened very fast
2, had she tried to call 911, she would have probably been punched or worse.
3, it was a hard choice, to call 911, she would have had to run away first, to protect herself, if she leaves then she isn't witnessing, & worse might happen.
4, engaging like a kick as you say, was never on the table.

5. Never associate with a s*#t bag like that in the first place

shut the front door 03-16-2024 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Randall55 (Post 2312000)
The only thing you can do in that scenario is call 911. Assault someone and you go to jail. Injure them, you could be sued. The friend should have screamed her head off. I also noticed the next door neighbors' lights did not come on. Maybe, not at home. If I were home, my lights would go on to give the security cameras a better chance of capturing the moment. Without hesitation, I would call 911.

It's totally understandable that you've never been in law enforcement, but anyone with a lick of sense knows that you can legally assault someone who is in the process of felony kidnapping. Sued? That's hilarious. Anyone can be sued for anything. Unlike many pearl clutchers around here, I don't live my life in fear of being sued, and I'm well aware of the laws here.

Dusty_Star 03-16-2024 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2312018)
5. Never associate with a s*#t bag like that in the first place

Absolutely!!!

But they are chameleons, charming at first & for a while.

Caymus 03-16-2024 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dusty_Star (Post 2311944)
Pleasant fellow. As the video warns: explicit language

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Looks like you can't trust anybody wearing a "wife beater" shirt.

Randall55 03-16-2024 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by shut the front door (Post 2312020)
It's totally understandable that you've never been in law enforcement, but anyone with a lick of sense knows that you can legally assault someone who is in the process of felony kidnapping. Sued? That's hilarious. Anyone can be sued for anything. Unlike many pearl clutchers around here, I don't live my life in fear of being sued, and I'm well aware of the laws here.

I had a friend who stepped in to help a lady who was being pushed and shoved by a man. He grabbed the man by the shirt and pulled him away. The man sued him for medical bills. Attempted to get $$$$ for pain and suffering. It does happen.

My nephew is a police officer. His department would arrest all who made an assault. Cooling off period so the incident doesn't turn deadly hours later. When people are angry there is no telling what they will do. When they sit, locked up, their demeanor changes. Most are set free after seeing a judge the next day.

margaretmattson 03-16-2024 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Randall55 (Post 2312032)
I had a friend who stepped in to help a lady who was being pushed and shoved by a man. He grabbed the man by the shirt and pulled him away. The man sued him for medical bills. Attempted to get $$$$ for pain and suffering. It does happen.

My nephew is a police officer. His department would arrest all who made an assault. Cooling off period so the incident doesn't turn deadly hours later. When people are angry there is no telling what they will do. When they sit, locked up, their demeanor changes. Most are set free after seeing a judge the next day.

In sales, we were never allowed to stop a thief. If you attempted, you would be fired. Pretty much for the same reason. We were not allowed to commit a crime, such as an assault, to stop someone from doing a criminal act. The legality makes no sense to some. But, we were told NEVER attempt to stop a thief. Do not even follow them to the parking lot.

Shipping up to Boston 03-16-2024 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by margaretmattson (Post 2312041)
In sales, we were never allowed to stop a thief. If you attempted, you would be fired. Pretty much for the same reason. We were not allowed to commit a crime, such as an assault, to stop someone from doing a criminal act. The legality makes no sense to some. But, we were told NEVER attempt to stop a thief. Do not even follow them to the parking lot.

Assuming, by sales, you mean retail? I think the major retailers see it as the product can be replaced but not an injured or deceased worker. It’s all about the bottom line $$$

margaretmattson 03-16-2024 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2312042)
Assuming, by sales, you mean retail? I think the major retailers see it as the product can be replaced but not an injured or deceased worker. It’s all about the bottom line $$$

At different times, I sold cars, jewelry, and luxury brand items. Eventually,, I owned a business. We asked why we should not attempt to stop a thief. Your explanation was cited but the one I gave was a reason, as well. Committing a crime to stop a crime is not wise. If police catch the perp, the thief can point fingers and insist on your arrest for causing him real or made up injury. In my store, employees were told to stay away. Call 911 after the thief has left. It is crazy but criminals have rights.

OR! When caught, the thief can twist the story. Show their injury and insist they were simply shopping. The employee of the store grabbed me and I had to run for my life. ( or something similar)

John Mayes 03-16-2024 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dusty_Star (Post 2311983)
He may be lucky, but as it seems he is a repeat abuser, I wouldn't say the women who date him (now & in the future) are so lucky.

I somehow doubt he’ll be dating women in the foreseeable future.

John Mayes 03-16-2024 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Randall55 (Post 2312000)
The only thing you can do in that scenario is call 911. Assault someone and you go to jail. Injure them, you could be sued. The friend should have screamed her head off. I also noticed the next door neighbors' lights did not come on. Maybe, not at home. If I were home, my lights would go on to give the security cameras a better chance of capturing the moment. Without hesitation, I would call 911.

Maybe you don’t know about the Stand Your Ground law in Florida. He should have looked at the business end of an Sig Sauer by a responsible neighbor.

badkarma318 03-17-2024 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Randall55 (Post 2312000)
The only thing you can do in that scenario is call 911.

Incorrect.

elle123 03-17-2024 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Coop63 (Post 2311838)
Anyone know how this ended?

A kidnapping suspect who barricaded himself in a home in The Villages on Friday had been arrested in 2023 after jealous harassment of a woman in the Village of Chatham.

James Savage, 54, was the subject of a manhunt on Friday after allegedly forcing a woman into a Mercedes in the Village of Monarch Grove. The woman was later found safe and Savage barricaded himself in a home on Belhaven Loop in the Village of Chatham, prompting a lengthy standoff with Marion County sheriff’s deputies.

Savage had been arrested last year after harassing a woman who lives on Belhaven Loop.

More on Villages news website

The video looked like an abduction and attempted murder when she refused to enter his car.

Chitown 03-17-2024 05:10 AM

For those of you who do not know the kidnapping itself took place in the village of Monarch Grove. Then he proceeded down 301 to the village of Chatham.

Sabella 03-17-2024 05:16 AM

I hope he was the owner of the house that got destroyed

westernrider75 03-17-2024 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Coop63 (Post 2311838)
Anyone know how this ended?

A kidnapping suspect who barricaded himself in a home in The Villages on Friday had been arrested in 2023 after jealous harassment of a woman in the Village of Chatham.

James Savage, 54, was the subject of a manhunt on Friday after allegedly forcing a woman into a Mercedes in the Village of Monarch Grove. The woman was later found safe and Savage barricaded himself in a home on Belhaven Loop in the Village of Chatham, prompting a lengthy standoff with Marion County sheriff’s deputies.

Savage had been arrested last year after harassing a woman who lives on Belhaven Loop.

More on Villages news website

I’m not sure if the other woman in the video is a friend or not but I sure don’t want her as my back up. She was useless.

La lamy 03-17-2024 05:28 AM

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unbelievable.

Sandabern 03-17-2024 05:58 AM

He's a repeat offender and is (far more than) harassing women. This needs to be dealt with. Seriously... He should be on 24 hour watch if he's released. No one and especially women should not feel threatened in this community. "Justice should be served" whether in or out the courtroom for this garbage.

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Originally Posted by UsuallyLurking (Post 2311839)
As of earlier this morning (around 9), it hadn't ended. Legacy Lane was still being blocked by Marion County sheriffs around this site of the barricaded house.


RoadToad 03-17-2024 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Sabella (Post 2312116)
I hope he was the owner of the house that got destroyed

He wasn't. Older woman "friend" owned it, he has a key. Was on WESH Tv Sat night.
Seems she was reluctant to tell LEOs the guy was there.

LuvNH 03-17-2024 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2312018)
5. Never associate with a s*#t bag like that in the first place

And that is the answer. I am a women, thankfully I have an A.H. antenna and I would never ever let a dirt bag like that near me. It would not take too long to see right through him as soon as he opened his filthy mouth.

Ladies, ladies, ladies, are you really that desperate that you would give this dirt bag five minutes of your time!


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